Poll: How do you want your GW?

Skip the mainsite, but keep it under gamingw.net
2 3.5%
Skip the mainsite, but let's register a more general domain
8 14%
Give GW a mainsite (gaming-related or not), and keep it under gamingw.net
23 40.4%
Give GW a mainsite (gaming-related or not), but let's register a more general domain
16 28.1%
Other
8 14%

Status: Voting has ended

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Poll So how do you want your GW? (Read 1445 times)

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Hi pals.

Since we've been having so many objections about GW from every direction, we're probably gonna throw up the new site as a separate entity and just link it to the forum remotely. This means that you won't even know it exists unless you manage to find it on your own, and no data will be exported to the new site or anyone else.

GW is still a place where a lot of talented people connect and a lot of you guys are really set on preserving the site as it is, so how do you feel about skipping a mainsite entirely and making GW completely forum-centric, so as to keep it 100% community-oriented and eliminate the need for a debate about what to do with the mainsite? I mean if all you really want to do with the site is give people an outlet for their creative stuff, it kind of eliminates the need of a mainsite anyway.

Also, since we're going to update the forum software, how do you feel about putting it under a new domain in the process in order to make it more general and attractive to outside people who maybe aren't into gaming? Or would you prefer to still have it under gamingw.net.
Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 05:25:56 pm by Bald Coworker
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Nice sonic avvy. Not the best sonic avvy I've ever seen on gaming w but definitely a contender
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I went with this:
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Give GW a mainsite (gaming-related or not), and keep it under gamingw.net

But at this point I really don't care anymore. Just get a good, long lasting mainsite up that is actually related to what GW is supposed to be about (which is showing off crappy RPG Maker games indie games and user submitted content).

I've never been a fan of putting it under a new domain name. Why should we? This domain name is perfectly fine.
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NO MOSQUE MAINSITE AT GROUND ZERO GAMING WORLD!!!!
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I've mentioned this time and again, but we need a main site. I really don't get why this is such a problem. It's not like the forum would be DELETED. In fact, Drule has mentioned that the forum would be kept intact. I don't even know if I'll like the main site Drule is making but there's no real reason not to put it on the same domain.
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I would also like to point out that there are a lot of people on this site who come here simply to post their game and then leave, or only check back to see feedback. They do not come into this forum (they probably don't even know that this is the general forum).

The only people who really post are those who no longer make games (for the most part), so obviously most of the posts you get are going to be negative.

I think the main site should make it easier for people to get feedback on their games, easier to showcase their games and easier for people to play their games. The forums just aren't a good place to do this. The posts in most of the game topics are like "I'll play it later" or "Nice game." It's hard for people to find posts by the original author and it's hard for people to know when a game is updated. A system that makes managing game releases, separating suggestions from general posts, complete control of comments / suggestions that are posted on the game (delete / hide spam posts), the owner of the game should have complete control over that page; he shouldn't have to wait for a moderator to come to his game page and clean it up, the ability for users to submit bugs in an organized way, and a way for the author to update the game with patches and other content. People should be able to subscribe to updates to a game series that they like. People should be able to write reviews that look good; don't just give users a text field and let them write a wall of text.

It isn't just about having a main site, it's about having a main site that's worth having. Who cares what all of the veteran users think, they're only here to troll; the main site isn't for them. They aren't going to use it. Let them have the forums. Make a main site that works for developers.
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The main site is how I found out about the forum. So, yeah a worthwhile main site would benefit the forums by being an avenue for new members.

I'm completely apathetic towards the name. I think it should just be whatever attracts members that will stick around. Since I figure just keeping the original name would be easier. I voted for that.
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A suggestion here: integrating the concept of a mainsite into the forums itself. Not only will it have the legitimacy of a mainsite with all its perks such as reviews and resasauruses (rawr!), but it adopts more of a community feel. Someone suggested this waaay back when, but I still like the idea. Everyone w/o membership can get a vanilla premade profile but at least link their games and other resources, and people with membership can get additional benefits, etc. etc...
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Why can't we just have a simple mainsite that highlights shit from the forum, and leave it as simple as that? Songs, threads with cool drawings them, interesting things of artistic or gaming related things. That way, people don't have to slog through the countless couchfiend topics to get to interesting things, and people who rarely go outside of one branch of the forums can just check the mainsite to see if someone has started an art thread worth looking at or a thread about an album release?

That way the site is 100% community-centric but doesn't rely on people HAPPENING to stumble across good threads. People from both inside and outside the community can check out the best threads/games/arts/musics/pictures of moms. People outside the community will go "hmm this is an interesting album I'll sign up to post comments" and people from inside the community will have no trouble finding topics from forums they don't frequent/are too lazy and stupid to find on their own.

The forum stays intact, the community stays intact, and people can get some more feedback on their shit.

It's not like it's hard to sign up for GW, if outsiders find a link to something they like, they'll sign up to comment on it. And so long as we're not DOUCHECLOCKS about it they will stick around.
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All I want is more 14 year old kids to generate content
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I'll not TAKE ANYTHING you write like this seriously because it looks dumb
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Funny thing is 14 year olds generally tend to generate pretty good content. I churned out loads of chipset edits when I was 14...back when I had loads of time on my hands. I just never posted them.

Also, Kaempfer's post. It's prolly the easiest thing to do, and at least you have a place to show off resources.
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juris the difference is that 12-16 year olds are motivated very differently than us. if you wanted to create a site as successful as the old gw but not as young and stupid you'd have to really look into what motivates people and how you get people to participate in something. that's likely beyond the scope of effort anyone would be willing to put into a site without the promise of cash tho so I think the only real option is to use what we're already doing just cuz we want to and try to enhance that

I guess I'm going to vote for one of the mainsite options. forums aren't very good for giving people fast or easy access to products/projects/whatever so I think any mainsite saying "this is what we're about this is some stuff that's going on here's some things we did" would be fantastic.

also j-rod kaempfer's post is pretty much what ed's been working on but he is rogue

edit: I am voting for a domain change but I really don't care either way.
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Why can't we just have a simple mainsite that highlights shit from the forum, and leave it as simple as that? Songs, threads with cool drawings them, interesting things of artistic or gaming related things. That way, people don't have to slog through the countless couchfiend topics to get to interesting things, and people who rarely go outside of one branch of the forums can just check the mainsite to see if someone has started an art thread worth looking at or a thread about an album release?

That way the site is 100% community-centric but doesn't rely on people HAPPENING to stumble across good threads. People from both inside and outside the community can check out the best threads/games/arts/musics/pictures of moms. People outside the community will go "hmm this is an interesting album I'll sign up to post comments" and people from inside the community will have no trouble finding topics from forums they don't frequent/are too lazy and stupid to find on their own.

The forum stays intact, the community stays intact, and people can get some more feedback on their shit.

It's not like it's hard to sign up for GW, if outsiders find a link to something they like, they'll sign up to comment on it. And so long as we're not DOUCHECLOCKS about it they will stick around.
That's what the GWBlog did and we can all agree that that didn't turn out as well as envisioned. I've said this before but I'll say it again, if we're going to have a mainsite again it doesn't make sense for it to be the exact same thing as the forums. That's just redundant. The forums aren't as active as they were so the argument that people who are too lazy to find a topic will find it easier on a mainsite just doesn't fly. If they can't find it on the forums what makes you think that they'll go to the mainsite to find it there in a roundabout way? If you really want the lazy people to not miss some great topic then a stickied topic in the general forum entitled "Cool GW topics this week" linking all of these threads would work much better.

I voted to keep the domain name the same and just have an indie game-based website focused on amateur game development.
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An option is to have a sidebar alongside the forum with collective twitter/youtube/game/whatever feeds from our creative members and maybe also recent/hot topics. I also don't see the point in having a mainsite if it's going to be exactly the same thing as the forum.
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the problem with blog is the users doesn't feel really involved in it.. a mainsite should be something that could be shared amongst peopel who have passsion for whatever the hell gw would be about. but i still hope it would be about game developemtn and games, though i would like same attention for the visual arts and music made by the members. so probably an all around happy site.
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what does "the same thing" mean? like, another forum with all the same subforums and the same threads and the same posts? that IS redundant. or do you mean just about the same subjects. cuz uh, that's kinda just the link between the site and the forums. it isn't redundant at all. let us reinvigorate the website; the forums shall remain as they are, but the mainsite, she will be about cooking and sharing recipes. forums are a place for discussion, site is a place to give visitors quick and easy access to the things we produce or the stuff we're doing. it is very difficult to look at the main forum structure and derive any of this information, or to feel any calling to get involved, sign up, download/play/listen to any of our stuff, or even know any of that stuff exists.

also matueuei can you stop bringing up gw blog, that garbage failed for numerous reasons and none of them are because it actually did what you are claiming it tried to do.
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which one was even the "gw blog", the one that was up with the layout that's on the site right now or the one before it that had articles about stuff besides games (or something else entirely)
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the blog-style layout one I think. the one before that was ok even tho it had a lot of kinda bad articles people probably felt obligated to write. but people did give a shit about that one
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An option is to have a sidebar alongside the forum with collective twitter/youtube/game/whatever feeds from our creative members and maybe also recent/hot topics. I also don't see the point in having a mainsite if it's going to be exactly the same thing as the forum.
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I would like my GW with eggs and a side of beacon.

and I real have no comment on this just need to get my joke post on wish I had something to say.
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