Tutorial using apostrophes (Read 630 times)

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People have been telling me that apostrophes are only to be used when you're going a contraction like i just did eight words ago. I usually use it for possessives as well, like 'John's Car' or 'the movie's ending'. Are you telling me it's 'johns car' and 'the movies ending'. Is that what you're telling me? You better mean it if you are.
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i think i am having such a hard time accepting this for two reasons. 1, that i see apostrophes used for possessives all over the place and that i have looked it up on a bunch of places on the internet which acknowledge it. and 2, it just seems to make a lot more sense than not doing it. like, if we aren't using it then how do you differentiate between the horses' hay and the horse's hay? cos both would just be horses hay!

i have had english tutors tell me this is wrong though. and whatever, i am probably wrong but i'm making sure because i guess i kind of like using apostrophes to indicate possessives and i don't want to drop it unless it's just totally wrong. there's an entry for this under cultural dictionary on dictionary.com, does that mean this is like a writing slang kind of thing?

another thing, why does everyone act like they've never even heard of using apostrophes to show possession? i see it everywhere! i might be a bit more inclined to rethink if someone at least gave me an 'it's a common mistake...but this is how you do it' but all i get is UHHHH WAT.
Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 07:21:58 pm by jamie
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This article essentially sums up every rule that I knew about the usage of apostrophes right here.

Rule #1 states that apostrophes should be used in the place of an ommitted letter in a contraction and, to add onto this, they should also be used whenever  a letter is omitted e.g. ol' instead of old.
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well that article seems to follow exactly the way i already use apostrophes. so why is that saying that and other people saying something else?
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What idiots are telling you that jamie? you have it right
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In mid school I was taught apostroph with an s behind it is a shortening for "is". In other words, "He's late" would be a shortening for "He is late". If you look at it that way, I think it would be "Johns car" instead of "John's car", but you're right about "the movie's ending".
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What idiots are telling you that jamie? you have it right

most credibly, my seminar tutor for english at uni. but i pressed her on how sure she was of that and she didn't give me a 'look, pal. i know everything there is to know about apostrophes' response. it was more of a 'hmm...no...maybe.....well, no' kind of thing which didn't really settle the issue at all for me. she brought it up as a mistake i made in an assignment i handed in a few weeks ago.

thank's for all the replies!!!!!!!!
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What idiots are telling you that jamie? you have it right

yeah seriously whoever is telling you that you don't use apostrophes in possessives is dumb'''''''''''''''''''''''''
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The apostrophe is not just for contractions. There's a misconception that "John's car" is really a contraction of "John his car", but that's not really the case. According to Wikipedia, its use actually originates from people mistakingly thinking that.

The most difficult part (aside from all the crazy things mentioned on Wikipedia) is the syntax for words that end with an s, especially plural versions. Here you have to simply follow what sounds right (since not using an extra s is also syntactically correct). Charles's car, Dickens's books, Marx's theories, but: the glasses' contents, the Williamses' house, the buses' passengers.
Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 09:09:33 pm by Dada
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That tutor isn't qualified to mark anything you turn in jamie and you should spit directly in her face and hair if she mentions this again
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dada is right. I remember when I found out chris's car is correct. I was ashamed to have ever called myself the Official Emma Watson Message Board's grammar nazi!
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To me, the really grating thing is how you need to change people's names sometimes, like in "the Williamses' house". It just seems very wrong to change an identifier as important as a personal name like it's just another malleable word.
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We've been taught since elementary that for possessives an apostrophe should be used.
Also, Horses's and Horses' are both correct.
Now we only have english as a secondary taught language, but what the hell's going on here?
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jamie fire that tutor they don't even know what they are doing you can use apostrophes for that stuff. you should use extra apostrophes and really make em mad >​
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In mid school I was taught apostroph with an s behind it is a shortening for "is". In other words, "He's late" would be a shortening for "He is late". If you look at it that way, I think it would be "Johns car" instead of "John's car", but you're right about "the movie's ending".
where do you live? your teacher obviously had no clue how english grammar works. apostrophe is used with possessive as well, how someone doesn't know that is beyond me!!
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