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dada

#2381 July 02, 2011, 05:47:22 pm

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"Middle class" is about the most misused label ever, it really doesn't mean anything. It's also used to mean working/lower class by mainly politicians who want to be polite. (At least, in the US.) At the very least it has a very broad income range.

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#2382 July 02, 2011, 06:05:00 pm

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That's the thing though, in British society it (up until now anyway) has ALWAYS had importance and meaning. Not that the meaning was great by any means, but it was a really significant part of our culture. Even now it's a controversial issue concerning who belongs to which class.

It used to be a distinction between commoners - i.e. professional commoners/rich commoners (middle class) and non-professional/poor commoners (working class). Obviously in our system the only people who are "upper" class are 'nobles' (except for the Lower Upper Class which generously allows Lord Mayors and Judges to be a part of it).

I totally understand that this isn't the same for the rest of Europe by any means, and if I'm honest it'd be a fantastic situation if there were no class system at all. However, in Britain it's linked quite a lot to identity - i.e. a way to feel better than other people.

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#2383 July 02, 2011, 10:28:33 pm

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when i was 7 or 8 i was watching the simpsons and they made a joke about being a middle class family in it, so later i asked my dad 'dad, are we middle class?' and he basically spat at the sound of it and snarled 'JAMIE SON - WE'RE WORKING CLASS.'

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#2384 July 02, 2011, 11:44:26 pm

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Lol yeah, exactly. A lot of my family would be FURIOUS to be considered middle class. Hell, Paolo's father was surprised I considered HIM middle class, and he lives in a fucking mansion and seems to have infinite wealth (plus he's the most middle class person both Paolo or I have ever met!)

But in the US apparently everyone is middle class, from like Hank Hill, to Peter Griffin, to Homer Simpson. Like they all do what are considered Working Class jobs here, but Working Class/Lower Class in the US seems to only consist of drug users, prostitutes, and beggars.

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#2385 July 03, 2011, 01:59:57 am

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to many of you guys i'm sure that something like 80,000 per year sounds like luxury, but keep in mind that you're likely thinking of living on your own as a single white male. my brother was saying that he would feel so rich if he were making 80k/year when he moves to Boston (as opposed to what he makes right now in Michigan), even though he grew up on 200k/year in Michigan. also it's interesting how perception of money changes as we age. like as a 5-year-old, a hundred dollars seems like a lot. to me as a high-schooler, a thousand dollars seems like a lot. i know that as i get older i'll start gaining a better intuition for money value and that just seems so strange to me. maybe i'm just talking obvious crap here but to me it's something interesting to think about

you live in suburbia where all of you are upper or maybe MAYBE upper middle class if you think that 200k isn't a lot. Even with a full family that is a fuckload of money. That wouldn't be alot of money if you lived in miami, new york, or seattle but that is a shitton of money in Michigan even I'm pretty sure. Both my parents worked and together they didn't break 100k raising three kids. 80k is college education level annually. I know people with a four year degree that work offshore that would be lucky if they hit 80k. I work fulltime with a technical education and I don't know if I make more than 50k a year and thats damn good for someone my age without a college education pretty much anywhere.

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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#2386 July 03, 2011, 02:04:19 am

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yeah you're not going to be able to afford a g4 or whatever the fuck raising a family on 200k but I bet all your parents bills are paid, they own land and/or businesses and you and your siblings got college covered.

Thats upper class and people struggle their whole lives to get to that point. shit my parents cut it close a couple times going from check to check when I was growing up but I still lived pretty comfortably if not spoiled.

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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#2387 July 03, 2011, 04:29:31 am

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just dropping in to post this for DietCoke since he posted that Žižek video earlier in this thread: http://www.dnevnik.si/novice/kultura/1042456317 it's a live debate between Slavoj Žižek and Julian Assange (editor in chief of WikiLeaks). i've been watching it for a while and it's pretty interesting

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#2388 July 03, 2011, 08:23:41 am

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Quote from: mkkmypet on July 03, 2011, 04:29:31 am

just dropping in to post this for DietCoke since he posted that Žižek video earlier in this thread: http://www.dnevnik.si/novice/kultura/1042456317 it's a live debate between Slavoj Žižek and Julian Assange (editor in chief of WikiLeaks). i've been watching it for a while and it's pretty interesting

yeah i caught that, interesting stuff... plus it's always a treat to watch zizek in almost any context whatsoever

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#2389 July 03, 2011, 01:16:15 pm

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I was able to see the last 45 minutes or so and it was very interesting. Zizek is a pretty amazing person.

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#2390 July 03, 2011, 03:21:30 pm

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he's definitely a total loon. i knew he was very, very big on the pop culture references but it didn't seem like he could start a sentence without one in this discussion, also he seems weirdly oblivious of himself with his jokes sometimes. i don't really know much about what his actual insights are into real issues, but at a glance here and elsewhere he makes some sense to me despite lady gaga 24 lost tom hanks and so on and and so on and so on

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#2391 July 03, 2011, 08:55:56 pm

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#2392 July 04, 2011, 01:06:59 am

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http://www.skai.gr/news/politics/article/173929/o-al-athanasiadis-kataggellei-oti-dehtike-apeiles-gia-to-mesoprothesmo-/

Greek MP claims his life was threatened so as to ensure he'd vote for the austerity measures.

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#2393 July 04, 2011, 11:45:46 pm

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is there like an Urban Dictionary for nerds because sometimes I need translation/source for certain quotes like "Oh my God it's full of stars" "I am Inigo Montoya you killed my father prepare to die" etc. etc. definition of what a Tardis is

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#2394 July 05, 2011, 12:40:45 am

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Quote from: Ragnar on July 04, 2011, 11:45:46 pm

"Oh my God it's full of stars"

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#2395 July 05, 2011, 02:26:44 am

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Summers

lolz

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#2396 July 05, 2011, 11:55:09 am

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I'm particularly disgusted with the world today.

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#2397 July 05, 2011, 11:58:09 am

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What did it do today dada?

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#2398 July 05, 2011, 09:25:28 pm

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303763404576416273856397078.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

derp

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#2399 July 05, 2011, 09:38:29 pm

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http://theweek.com/article/index/216001/foreskin-man-proof-that-anti-circumcision-activists-are-anti-semitic

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#2400 July 06, 2011, 04:34:40 am

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OH NO CAYLEE ANTHONY BABY MOMMA GOT LET LOOSE NOW I SUDDENLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT JUSTICE

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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