just finished playing a session of MP, took a me a few goes to get into it i think that power drains a little too quickly for my taste also when your hit you stagger which is only good for the one doing the shooting, if you get caught, that's it, i'ts very difficult to beat some one when you have been caught, also what Is It with people shooting you in the back, i think i died pretty much every time from being shot in the back, only a few times from when i could actually have a chance (and twice where i jumped off the roofs XD) what really pisses me of is that i got an award for it called "coward", AS IF I WANTED TO GET SHOT IN THE BACK! i might ask them to change that becuase tbh i don't think ANY one in the game ever got killed from behind cos they were running away, more like some one came across them from behind and shot them, personaly i think those that do should be labeld the cowards, not the ones being shot in the back.

Once you familiarize yourself with the maps and start using heat vision and the sensor which lets you know when someone is near you, you won't be killed from behind if you're playing properly. Also, listening to footsteps helps a lot unless someone is using the module which suppresses sound from footsteps, then it's a bit more difficult to know where your enemy is coming from.

I'm basically constantly switching heat vision on and off to quickly check any area for stealthed players and using the proximity module really helps you to get started since you know when someone is close to you and you can react to the situation before you're taken out.

also when your hit you stagger which is only good for the one doing the shooting, if you get caught, that's it, i'ts very difficult to beat some one when you have been caught

Yeah, this was what I was talking about. It's actually not too bad if you have enough suit energy and armor mode on but most of the time you don't. You really learn to adapt once you have played a bit so it's not too bad. I still hope they'll change that one thing though, it might make sense on consoles but it's just way too easy to kill you with a mouse and keyboard when you can't even sprint to dodge bullets.

yeah, PC players can be so accurate copaired to console players that it's scary, btw do you know if the demo is limited to medium graphical detail or is it fully unlocked? i'm asking cos if it is, OMFG what an improvment on performance alone cos it set my game to max graphics (i changed the res though) and i get no stutter, it's smooth as.. somthing really smooth.

Well, there are three different video settings in the demo, hardcore is the best one and gamer is the worst one. I'm pretty sure final game will have the same ones, though I hope you can actually customize your video settings which you can't do in the demo. Also, demo only supports dx9 while retail supports dx11, I'm not sure but it's possible that there is no dx10 at all.

And yeah, it runs a lot better than Crysis does because they spent a lot more time on optimizing it since CryEngine 3 supports consoles as well. But single player campaign will surely look better than the multiplayer does since the attention to details will most likely make it more demanding.

Anyway, I reached #4 at world ranking but I stopped playing for a few hours so I'm #10 now. Having a blast with this game and already managed to get a 23 kill streak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8x7_G3xSBQ

dis song rules, crysis 2 seems to have pretty good soundtrack from what i have heard.

i also saw some single player campaign videos today and it looks pretty incredible. there seemed to be a lot of big sandbox type areas where you could pick the way you play just like in crysis. i actually think it's gonna be better this way because despite having these huge maps, crysis was still a linear game and you always had to approach a certain area within the big level so it's essentially the same thing what crysis 2 has (with the exception of the village infiltration level) except crysis 2 also has better control over pacing and presentation. i suppose i'm gonna miss freely exploring the areas a bit but i'd take good pacing and presentation over that any day of the week. and crysis 2 seems to be pretty cinematic and story-driven like uncharted 2 or half-life 2 and that's great. that's the one thing which kept crysis from being a classic i think. i really like crysis and it's a great game which is a lot of fun to play but the presentation was only really strong at some parts of the game and sometimes it felt like the game was there to serve the technology and not the other way around so having a more involved story with scripted moments and good pacing will hopefully manage to make crysis 2 one of the fps greats if the gameplay holds up as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6J_aWkHbc

made a video of the multiplayer. rami and i have been playing a lot and it's fucking awesome and we want more people to play with come on guys! single player campaign was also the best fps campaign i have played since half-life 2. what happened to good single player campaigns........

I didn't like the original multiplayer that much. Level design was pretty bland and speed mode was super annoying, not to mention the speed strifing. Cloak was pretty useless too. Power Struggle was pretty fun at first but it got boring quickly. And I think the new suit works so much better and I seriously couldn't imagine playing without ledge grab/slide anymore. The one thing I prefer in the original is that you don't have to equip grenades to throw them but I guess it makes sense since you equip JAW/C4 in the same slot as grenades in Crysis 2 multiplayer.

You don't just use speed to get to places faster. On many occasions someone manages to catch me by surprise when I'm in power/armor mode and then I go behind cover as quickly as I can, turn on stealth with whatever little remaining energy I have, use the speed to sprint a short distance while taking advantage of my surroundings (using power jump/ledge grab to get on top of some structure and try to get behind the other player) or just use power jumping and sidestepping to make it harder to hit me and win the fight despite being at complete disadvantage. I have gotten some really nice triple kills by effectively doing that and I assure you speed helps you a lot in combat if you use it properly.

You're right that compared to Crysis, cloak is much more necessary in Crysis 2. However, I don't think that's a bad thing and you definitely don't have to use it all the time, only when running around in open areas. And running around with armor mode on is actually a very valid strategy if you use armor enhance and you can easily react and kill someone who surprised you from behind.

I also totally disagree with what you're saying about modules, I prefer many modules to armor enhance. Energy transfer is so much more useful for me since it replenishes 50% of my suit energy whenever I kill someone so whenever I fight against multiple opponents, I can focus on taking one out and get half of my energy back which allows me to keep armor mode on for extended periods of time, turn on stealth to confuse my enemies and sprint around or power jump around so it's harder to hit me. Not to mention that there's very little downtime waiting for suit energy to replenish as long as I can rack up kills. Proximity alarm is another module I prefer to armor enhance and it's very useful since you know if someone is getting close to you so it's very difficult for someone to catch you by surprise. Nano recharge is also useful since it restores your suit energy 2x faster than normally which means you don't have much of a downtime since you don't have to wait as long for your energy to replenish. It also doubles your health regeneration speed and halves the amount of time you have to wait till your health starts to recover which is definitely useful.

As for stealth modules, a lot of them are useful and it really depends on how you're playing. I use stealth enhance because I run around a lot in stealth mode and use nanovision but cloak tracker is also quite useful since it shows where enemies enter stealth mode on the minimap and also highlights stealthed players so it's easy to see them even without nanovision. It's useful with proximity alarm and you won't be caught off guard easily, if ever. Blind spot is extremely useful for snipers since you are immune to being seen on minimap when your opponent team has maximum radar on. Proximity alarm is also very useful for snipers since you'll be notified when someone is getting close to you so you have time to move and switch to your pistol.

Power modules also have a lot of great options depending on your playstyle. Mobility enhance is great if you move around a lot since you won't run out of energy so fast. Weapon pro is fantastic for faster reloading and weapon swapping. Loadout Pro lets you carry two primary weapons which is really great when you're using l-tag or sniper. Retriever is also very useful for sniper since you don't have to collect dog tags and you don't need as many kills for the support bonuses. Side pack is a good choice in crash site for the additional grenade/jaw and aim enhance is pretty useful for heavy machine guns. Some modules are definitely not that useful, yes, but most of them have their advantages depending on how you play, what weapon you play with and what gamemode you're playing. I have 5 custom classes and I use all of them and sometimes I switch my role in middle of the round. I think that you're making some pretty unfair assumptions about modules without really having familiarized yourself with them.

And as far as ledge grab goes, I'm not sure how exactly you manage to grab ledges you don't want to. The controls are really responsive and the new normal/power jump system is so much better than the clunky way in original Crysis. I often opt for the regular jump and ledge grab instead of power jump so I can save up energy. And sliding is not useful most of the time, yeah, but I have managed to avoid a few deaths by sliding towards someone who was shooting me (and it's been done to me) and it can be especially useful with marshall.  But most importantly, it's fun. It's not the most important skill but it's really awesome when you manage to pull off a nice kill with it. Maybe you don't care for that but I appreciate it. The way the control scheme works and how you can navigate the environment is just so much fun and coupled with stealth kills I think it's the best controlling FPS I have played, no contest.

You're right about random headshots though, it happens sometimes and that sucks. There are some other minor issues with the netcode as well but you are completely ignoring the fact that the netcode in original Crysis wasn't any better.

But to each his own. I agree that Crysis was a great game which isn't appreciated enough but the multiplayer really wasn't all that great for me, and I guess same applies for most people since it died pretty quickly. I think Crysis 2 manages to address most issues I had with original Crysis in both single player and multiplayer and I definitely think it's clearly the superior game in almost every way. I do miss some of the better levels in Crysis (the second village mission comes to mind) but overall I couldn't really be happier with Crysis 2's direction. Too bad the story turned out to be pretty bad though, I was expecting way more from it.

edit: sry did some heavy editing on the post.................. ever changing post