Yeah because I really think all women are tools and I really go around tearing them down as artistically as I can. I'm actually very respectful, I'd never use a derogatory term for a girl I respect. But like I said when someone treats me like I'm a thing or like I'm incredibly stupid I get kind of pissed off about it.

My vocabulary is different than most peoples and my intention in using words like "bitch" or "cunt" isn't directed as a generic slur for all of the ladies but the ones that don't show me the same respect I gave them. That might be wrong, some people prolly consider it to be wrong right off of the bat and I realize and respect that opinion. Its really not that hard to grasp man, I did not grow up in the same environment and do not think the same way you do. I'm not using that as an excuse for my actions but to explain my own reasoning, which I admit is probably different than your own.

Sometimes I don't like that I do this because other people don't understand or misinterperet my intentions and I should probably refrain from doing it. But like I said earlier if I were to change the way I use those words toward terrible women then I'd have to change the way I speak about terrible men. Or should I just skip the femenine term and call women that I consider to be weak or bad people assholes too? I can only tell you that I try very carefully to not be a mysogonist but if you think I'm one then fuck it I'll wear that title because I'm flattered you think so highly of me.
 
 
Also I'm actually not as bitter as I seem, I'm in a pretty good way right now. I get my bouts of anger or depression like everyone else though. And the lifestyle I live is pretty hard to meet or get into a real relationship. It just pisses me off when I meet someone I respect and like and they treat me like I'm nothing and shit on me. I'm over it though, don't wanna think about it anymore. I don't know why I even bother explaining myself. People are gonna make the assumptions they want and I know I can't change this. Someone told me I do that too much and it makes alot of sense. I guess I do it because I feel if I don't explain my intentions and whats going through my head then people will make assumptions about me which might be off. Its not like I care what anyone thinks about me I just don't want them to be wrong.
 
Like, if you think I'm an asshole then fine. But think I'm an asshole for the things I'm consciously being an asshole for. Not because of a miscommunication or misunderstanding of my reasoning. Man I so shouldn't care, if I was at home and was smokin' my bud I just would not give a fuck at all and I'd move on but I CANT TURN MY GODDAMN BRAIN OFF OUT HERE....

I think faust probably knows about the misogynistic subculture here that talks like that and freely uses those terms, but being brought up in that kind of situation doesn't excuse anything. you're a thinking guy, you should eventually realize you've got some pretty shitty thoughts about women (ya do) and that the language you're using isn't anything worth holding on to

I guess so dude, I speak plainly. I curse alot. I like that about myself.

I feel like you can determine how easy going and judgemental someone is based on whether or not they can look past that and still speak to you like an equal. I could speak more eloquently and intelligently if I wanted to but if I did that I feel like I'd alienate alot of people and I don't like that. I can be the smartest son of a bitch in a room and come off like a complete idiot to everyone else in it except for the people worth talking to and really respecting for their own understanding and character.

I don't use racial slurs and I don't use slurs against homosexuals, I feel thats out of their control and wrong. But I also feel like people are based on two genders and though thats also out of their control its not necessarily something they can be singled out for in this day and age. So I feel like, to be fair. I'll use the feminine and masculine insults for both genders if I don't like them. That might be backassed, wrong, or odd but thats how I feel about it. I might decide to change that at some point in the future but right now I don't see any reason to.

I feel like you can determine how easy going and judgemental someone is based on whether or not they can look past that and still speak to you like an equal.

no one's talking about swearing in general, stop throwing in red herrings. and by that reasoning do you also "look past it" when people constantly use faggot or nigger or whatever? oh apparently not:

I don't use racial slurs and I don't use slurs against homosexuals, I feel thats out of their control and wrong.

ahaha what. come on man, you've got to realize how damn stupid this sounds. you're a good person if race and sexual preference are off-limits, but gender is always fair game! the only thing this goes to show is how ingrained misogyny is into your society, that a woman is the only kind of person it's okay to view as your a lesser and insult for being born. btw it's great that you don't think women are SINGLED OUT anymore (even though all you've been doing all thread is single them out with "insights" into their behavior (much like Ron Pual's observations on the fleet-footed nature of the American negro)). that's not the case at all, though I'm not gonna sit here and explain to you each and every way women are degraded and marginalized in society and I shouldn't even have to because even if women and men were always equals it wouldn't make anything you're saying any better

and again it's not just how you're speaking/the language you're using even though you keep insisting that's where the argument is

ugh I hate to use the RACE comparison but I feel like it's the only way you're gonna get it:

I'm not racist, I'm actually very respectful to blacks or "African-Americans" as you P.C. fucks insist in calling them. My vocabulary is different than most peoples and my intention in using words like "nigger" or "spook" isn't directed as a generic slur for blacks, but the ones that don't show me the same respect I gave them. That might be wrong, some people prolly consider it to be wrong right off of the bat and I realize and respect that opinion. Its really not that hard to grasp man, I did not grow up in the same environment and do not think the same way you do. I'm not using that as an excuse for my actions but to explain my own reasoning, which I admit is probably different than your own.

Like I said, I'd never use a derogatory term for black man I respect. I don't ever call blacks niggers or spooks or whatever unless they've shown me they're terrible fucking people with no regard for anyone else but themselves. When that happens all bets are off and you're damn right I'm gonna call that kind of person a nigger. Its a word, I'm not going to censor the "ethnic" counterpart of it because it makes some people uncomfortable. I'm a grown man and I use cusswords, if I was going to stop using those particular words I would censor everything I said because it would not be right and that would make me a fucking hypocrite.

now there's no way this man is a racist

I am not uptight about language really at all but in this:

I don't ever call a black fella a nigger or a spook or whatever unless he's shown me he's a terrible fucking person with no regard for anyone else but himself. When that happens all bets are off and you're damn right I'm gonna call that kind of person a nigger just like they'd call me a fucking cracker.

You basically said "I don't call EVERY black a nigger, just the niggers" and that's p. indefensible.

oh sorry that was a quote I edited to prove a point, but just switch it to gender slurs and you got the original

so many awful comedians actually do use that line tho

that's some pretty retarded William's syndrome thinking there Dada

you just wanted to drop that syndrome's name didn't you. at least i hope so

i'm a growed man

btw it's great that you don't think women are SINGLED OUT anymore (even though all you've been doing all thread is single them out with "insights" into their behavior (much like Ron Pual's observations on the fleet-footed nature of the American negro)). that's not the case at all, though I'm not gonna sit here and explain to you each and every way women are degraded and marginalized in society and I shouldn't even have to because even if women and men were always equals it wouldn't make anything you're saying any better

hrmmm

I get what you're saying but the reason I even started talking about women in this thread is because of what the topic is about. I'm talking about why I don't have good relationships with women, why I'm usually alone. so I'd be specifically talking about the women I've had relationships with and why they didn't work. Like I said four fucking times already I don't necessarily think that of every woman or women in general.

I know society degrades women and I've read and been in discussions on here many many times where people talk about that and I believe its true. But thats not going to stop me from using a word? I don't think the word is singularly degrading to all women like a racial slur or slur for sexual preference. I believe it is just a femanine alternative.

But I also feel like people are based on two genders and though thats also out of their control its not necessarily something they can be singled out for in this day and age. So I feel like, to be fair. I'll use the feminine and masculine insults for both genders if I don't like them.

this does sound flimsy but its kind of what I personally believe. Maybe you're right about me being surrounded by misogyny. Like I said I know women are treated unequally in the workplace or in some societal circles but I won't treat a woman unequally. I was raised to treat a girl just like a boy. I say to a girl everything I'd say to a boy. Same respect, same feelings, same speech. But I dunno it just doesn't sound right to call a woman a prick or asshole. I don't judge a woman because she's a woman, I don't think lesser of a person because shes a woman. I make all of my decisions based on action. But if you think that I'm misogynist then I can't really change that.

I understand what dada is saying though

So is gender. You can apply this logic directly to everything that people don't control. All those things should be off-limits because they simply aren't relevant, no matter in what way people wrong you.

I understand this, I honestly do. I just feel its unfair to insult a woman with a word that is more masculine. I don't know why I do this it just does not sound right. The word "bitch" fits. I honestly just really like the sound of that word and I call men bitches all the time I'm not trying to compare them to a woman or a female dog even but just insult or tease them. I don't even care if the word means anything at all I've just grown a liking to the way it sounds and its a word I can't let go of...
 
 
To me words are words and its all about your intent in using them even if when you're using them it might not be grammatically correct. I'm not concerned about what other people think when I say what I say. I don't care, now if I came to change the way I personally feel about it then fine, thats my choice. But fuck what another person thinks about what I'm saying if they're too stuck up to ask or too ignorant to think about it, its their problem not mine.

no. Effective communication is when you and the people you are talking to has the exact or at least nearly the same connotation of the wors used, so I think what people think matters if you are talking to them, if your reasoning behind the use of words is the same as the girl/guy you are talking to then fine, but you have to be extra sensitive if you don't know the person that much especially when using strong words.

I try and make it a point to never use the word "gay" in a context that is offensive to actual homosexuals. But if I do I notice a homosexual in the room that really is a terrible person that only thinks about himself, I will make it a point to loudly call things "gay" in front of him when I actually mean "dumb" or "retarded" because it's like no holds barred then. I actually want him to notice it and call me out on it, so I can use that chance to call him a fag to his face. I don't hate gays, but fuck that guy. (not literally of course)

So yeah, I don't really like where the discussion is headed. I'm rather proud of being a loner myself, but anyone casually reading this topic is going to assume that most people are alone because they are racist, generally insensitive assholes. Hell, if I have to put a reason behind it, it'd be because I'm too sensitive if anything.

So yeah, I don't really like where the discussion is headed. I'm rather proud of being a loner myself, but anyone casually reading this topic is going to assume that most people are alone because they are racist, generally insensitive assholes. Hell, if I have to put a reason behind it, it'd be because I'm too sensitive if anything.

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