i have no clue what you're talking about with cumbersome because it's...not????

you design websites, right? think of the whole process it takes someone new to log in to irc, get to the chat they want, and use it effectively. it's convoluted and outdated, you're just used to it. well NATURALLY you add the network server to the mIRC network list, who would expect anything different?

you design websites, right? think of the whole process it takes someone new to log in to irc, get to the chat they want, and use it effectively. it's convoluted and outdated, you're just used to it. well NATURALLY you add the network server to the mIRC network list, who would expect anything different?

On that mibbit browser irc client you have to type in "irc.esper.net", "#saltw", "earlchip" and press go. I dunno how much easier it can be. Maybe I'll write a tut, watch this space

click http://chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.esper.net&channel=%23saltw woop

irc is a protocol, not a user interface. it's starting to be conducive to poor UI design but it's not completely defunct. the interfaces available represents the sympathies of those that use it.

I actually keep up with GW people through the forums. I get their thoughts and sometimes posts about their lives. I barely use irc at all. It's useful when trying to check a small group of people, sometimes faster to check single personel than through msn or fb due to highlighting.


I don't really find IRC good since it's active-messaging in style of IM but instead you are either constantly present or absent. There is no way to know who are present and who are not, unless type in whois/member info. Since it's active messaging in a public space on top of it - sometimes with a pressure for group messaging/accesible quality of topics - it really restricts the choises and quality of discussions so to speak! bad explanation but yeah IM with people directly works better and you bet if somebody manages to put IM through forum software and it works well, the IRC and IM might suffer a blow in userbase... well, not really. They say forums are done for in the future... Quo vadis? Que sera... barf... bark bawk? BARF BARF.
also helllllaa cumbersome so i understand earl's points about forum vs irc.

you design websites, right? think of the whole process it takes someone new to log in to irc, get to the chat they want, and use it effectively. it's convoluted and outdated, you're just used to it. well NATURALLY you add the network server to the mIRC network list, who would expect anything different?

i've been using irc longer than i've known how to make websites.  like mork said, it's pretty easy and you can read a quick tutorial and know how to do it.  if joining an irc channel is hard for you then you are using a really bad irc client--a lot of really user friendly ones are out there nowadays you don't have to use something like irssi if you don't feel comfortable doing it.  with the right client it isn't any harder than joining a forum or using an IM program.

just the idea of needing to find a decent irc client or look up a tutorial kind of proves it's convoluted, doesn't it? maybe that mibbit thing is totally simp, but who would know? how would I ever know if I wasn't sitting here talking about how irc stinks with a bunch of people who'd like to tell me doesn't

I dunno man I heard about it from some guy on irc

just the idea of needing to find a decent irc client or look up a tutorial kind of proves it's convoluted, doesn't it? maybe that mibbit thing is totally simp, but who would know? how would I ever know if I wasn't sitting here talking about how irc stinks with a bunch of people who'd like to tell me doesn't

how the heck do people find IM programs???  you're a smart lad you can figure it out, i think anyone who would want to be on saltw irc is capable of using irc i didn't say my grandma who sometimes forgets my name can do it IT'S NOT THAT HARD


fuck a lot of IM clients have IRC built into them how is this an issue

I think the forums are better though. Why would you use IRC, IRC is for sillyfaces.

you design websites, right? think of the whole process it takes someone new to log in to irc, get to the chat they want, and use it effectively. it's convoluted and outdated, you're just used to it. well NATURALLY you add the network server to the mIRC network list, who would expect anything different?

I think that's more of a software problem, IRC itself is actually pretty simple. Connect to a server, choose a nickname, select a channel/chatroom

I think the forums are better though. Why would you use IRC, IRC is for sillyfaces.

me too, but i like to pop into irc every once in a blue moon. its just comforting to know its there

I think the forums are better though. Why would you use IRC, IRC is for sillyfaces.

because sometimes i don't want to talk to EVERY sw'er at the same time, sometimes i wanna just talk to one or a few

My petty-argument-highlighting sarcasm came off well there then.

I don't think anyone was expecting anyone else to take issue with the discussion

because sometimes i don't want to talk to EVERY sw'er at the same time, sometimes i wanna just talk to one or a few

pms

ugh I mean the plural of pm

pms

ugh I mean the plural of pm

this takes way too long if you just wanna have a chat with someone.  if i wanna have a chat with mork about kissing dog tums i don't wanna take 4 years to send PMs back and forth when i can just hop on irc

every time i go to irc nobody talks