Topic: Insanity and Art (Read 1271 times)

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yeah I know what you're talking about. I've been practicing a whole lot and have gotten way better with my lyricism and now I can freestyle, like, really really well and it sucks because I've got dozens and dozens of songs either sitting in my head or coming and going and it sucks not being able to get it out. Like, writing it on paper is not enough I have to hear it.

I did some badass stuff with the instrumental song "Wildcat" by ratatat and I might need someone to mix it a little when I'm done. I got a bud that said he'd do it but he's not very trustworthy. I wish I was as obsessive and focused on guitar as I was with words and vocals because then I wouldn't have this problem but my hands sweat alot and slip off the strings and it pisses me off.
 
 
Also cata those were friggin awesome especially the one with Jupiter and Semele. I dunno who they are isn't Jupiter a Roman god? Those are great though and the hundley comparison was brilliant.
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i mke sound effects when i draw. do i qualify?
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so I dunno I'm just making internet diagnosis but I think my brother's bipolar because he sounds like conspiracy theorist guy wants to be a great rapper someday except he doesn't destroy anyone or whatever that guy on the first page did. But he also fails if given a large amount of cash at one time too. Hell maybe I am a little too, I have times where I can shit out like 3-4 tracks in one day and then I totally burn out other days. I can also walk tremendously far but have the same chance of being too exhausted to do anything let alone walk

and this

http://www.imagekind.com/Bad-Monkey_art?IMID=319fb2ca-7d99-4c3b-a38a-d87087b51e53
http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/
 
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Well it's said that the difference between inspiration and insanity is only one of degree. Don't bother yourself about it unless it gets to be dangerous.
Everyone has the right to be himself; wise men know how to,when, and whether to navigate the boundary between their rights and those of others when they collide.
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I'm an artist and I'm pretty messed up. 
I can see how insanity can lead to great pieces of art ( emotional pathological Expression) , but I can also and have witnessed a Piece driving me to insanity(FFFFFFFffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!! ).
I think this thread is about actual mental disorders though, not just common cognitive distress

but it's been an idea for a while that decent artists are uh, tormented. probably the most famous proponent of this idea is thomas mann, but numerous others have covered the subject as well, including kafka, pasternak, willa cather and again james joyce (just drawing from my limited library). actually lol ayn rand did it too but as usual pretty ineffectively and itc with a kind of hilarious misunderstanding of art and creativity (because she was not a creative person)

I didn't like Joyce for a while, but after reading Portrait I understand him much better. this kind of bothers me because everyone I could potentially idolize is dead and from another period. I'm supposed to be from this period not rehash old shit

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--James Augustine Aloysius Joyce
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so I dunno I'm just making internet diagnosis but I think my brother's bipolar because he sounds like conspiracy theorist guy wants to be a great rapper someday except he doesn't destroy anyone or whatever that guy on the first page did. But he also fails if given a large amount of cash at one time too. Hell maybe I am a little too, I have times where I can shit out like 3-4 tracks in one day and then I totally burn out other days. I can also walk tremendously far but have the same chance of being too exhausted to do anything let alone walk

and this

http://www.imagekind.com/Bad-Monkey_art?IMID=319fb2ca-7d99-4c3b-a38a-d87087b51e53

Maybe, best way to tell is by mood swings. Like, if his moods change without any sort of initiation or warning. Its too easy to diagnose people I think though, he might just be young and dumb too you never know.

Ragnar you sound alot like me and I think I got ADHD (like I posted in that medical thread) or anxiety. I know I took a bar of xanax one time and it didn't work and I think I took adderall too and it didn't do what it was supposed to. I'm not making assumptions off of that though cus I need to see a doctor. I've gotten along pretty well with it and didn't even realize I might have a medical condition and just thought I was that way. But when I went through some shit when I went home I had some stuff physically happen to me I could not explain. And after talking to a guy that had a kid with it, it made alot of sense. When I'm not smoking pot or spice I get too much energy if I don't physically drain myself and talk too fast, move too fast, and sometimes forget little trivial things for a second until I "remember" what it is I was looking for/doing. I think thats because I multi-task about 10 different things at once which 9 of them are stupid ass things I shouldn't even be thinkin about.

I'm pretty sure if you pay attention you can notice it here. I'll post long ass posts like this one when I'm out here and talk and talk sometimes but when I'm home I only got like a short paragraph to say at most?
 
 
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I am happy now, because my little whore tells me she wants me to roger her arseways and wants me to fuck her mouth and wants to unbutton me and pull out my mickey and suck it off like a teat. More and dirtier than this she wants to do, my little naked fucker, my naughty wriggling little frigger, my sweet dirty little farter.

--James Augustine Aloysius Joyce

the fuck???
 
 
Speaking of ayn rand I got this dude I know in the navy that completely idolizes her. I unwittingly tried to convert him to altruism (he called what I was talking about altruism and said it was dead). Dude seems like a good enough person but I think his views on the "unprivledged" are skewed. I think he thinks the privledged have somehow earned what they have in one form or another (even if they don't work their fathers did) and the unpriveledged are a direct product of the opposite or don't care enough? I don't know if its an underlying predjudiced or if he thinks because he went out and joined the military when he was 18 anyone who is less fortunate has no excuse? that their a weight on society? Thats a pretty sad way of looking at it in my opinion.
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people like that just don't understand the social and psychological effects of poverty or being born into a certain class or a certain type of family, which are really very well-documented. and what you believe in isn't 'altruism', that's just what objectivists call everything else that isn't part of their contorted philosophy. like even from a stupid logical or philosophical standpoint, there are a ton of holes in objectivism if you want to look them up, but I don't think you should bother. and no true objectivist is ever a decent person

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the fuck???
"It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also."
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I believe there was at least one about actual poop but it's not here
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No I remember those letters we talked about them in american magic. I mean what the fuck; Is his actual work like that? Or is that just some private fetishism that doesn't really show in his other works?
 
 
ahahah shit I'm trying to find that topic. Theres a part where people just started spinning off and making up their own letters by james joyce it was hilarious.
 
Edit: Nvm thats now how it went. Steel got tired of arguing with GR and changed all the posts about alcoholism to the letters.
 
http://www.saltw.net/index.php?topic=78073.75
 
http://www.saltw.net/index.php?topic=78074.15
 
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he keeps talking about getting off while he's writing I wonder if he's free hand jerkin it, thats pretty skillful. I feel bad for the dude that had to carry those letters I bet they stunk.
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oh no that's just part of the reason I like him. he writes about women a lot in at least Portrait but not about frigging farts out of them.
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this is some local guy where I live

http://www.vitobonanno.com/#1885253/about-the-artist
http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/
 
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that one is really cool.

Like you can look at it and see how he percieves those things with his autism. Like while he's drawing it out he's figuring out what a traffic light is? That reminds me of "the man who drew cats". 
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