Topic: Happy New Salt + What's on your mind 2012: CHILL YOUR HEAD (Read 116275 times)

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If you are posting from a very opinionated  standpoint ON A MALE DOMINATED GAMING FORUM shouldn't you also expect some idiots to have the exact opposite opinion? Isn't that logical?

If I came onto a christian website and my posts were laced with atheist beliefs I would expect some backlash, no that does not mean it's right but I also would know how to deal with it.

first of all you're pretending that she sort of brought this upon herself by going up against established dogma, and that's just not true. this started when inri started harassing her, not the other way around.
and yeah, of course she posts her opinion on the forum and people are going to disagree with it. but you're pretending that she left because of a simple, harmless difference in opinion that she couldn't handle. she left because people were (and STILL ARE) actively defending a complete misogynist and attacking her for having the gall to complain about being treated unfairly. that's not a simple matter of opinion. it's a matter of basic human decency.

I mean let's run with your analogy for a moment. that would imply this is a MAN'S FORUM and a woman shouldn't EXPECT to be welcome here, and should EXPECT to be harassed and for the harasser to be defended left and right.
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you're being pretty fucking awful to me, and for no good reason. is that how you handle power?
see, it's this sort of thing. "are you sure you're ready to be an admin?" "is this how you handle power?" you sound like a US presidential campaign ad. you don't care one bit about this whole situation or about the fact vellfire left, it's all about how YOU'VE been wronged and how I'm being mean to you.
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I'm not pretending anything, as I said I wasn't aware of any of the past history of Inri harassing her so I really did think that she left because of one topic with a few dorks. I've been actively saying this?? So me to it did look like she left because of a few comments.


But now i know differently so .. END
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delete this shit and get the fuck out you're shitting all over a good autism discussion.


I said I wasn't defending inri cus that shit was pretty much indefensable, the rape post. The other one was pretty shit too but like I said he had a point. Not with the attack on her but the perception of her behavior.

And no I don't think cus you people don't ever identify with gender generalizations you don't know shit about dating. Because you were telling a dude to give up on the girl he loved for three years without even trying to fight for her, come to some conclusion, or contemplate fighting for her; You don't know shit about relationships. TO ADD TO THAT! I keep seeing people mentioning men who react emotionally and can't come to conclusions. Women are just as capable of that.

but yeah cut my post and put it there too. I'm serious this was a really really good discussion. Dada's gettin' too emotional over the shit. I understand your frustration dude and we all appreciate vellfire (I like her and I don't think less of her and I'm pretty sure I didn't attack her at all for being a woman, just her opinion). Its a good discussion to have and mince has seen the error of his ways. I'm not saying problem all solved but you were actually making some sort of leeway on what earls been fighting about this whole time and the whole point I think he was trying to make?
 
Also earls gettin too emotional too. Fuckin forum and words dudes work it out and stop actin like kids.

yeah and I never expect you people to identify with generalizations but they do exist, people do fit them and live into them. Its human behavior. I'd never say you don't know shit by not accepting or thinking that, thats my own personal viewpoint. And still I do not think all people are the same but sometimes certain people definitely do follow behavioral patterns. Which I personally see as a bad thing. Following a set track without a certain level of intellectual complexity, reflection, and growth is a bad thing.
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I really think you should just delete the whole topic.
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I like the guy. He actually gives a shit about interesting things like science and engineering. He's also more creative than nearly all of you. I have to say I prefer that to just <<takes offence, writes crap>>.

It's interesting to see the recurrent labels you've built up to tar the guy with. That fucking misogynist.

No-one really leaves this website anyway. I'm sure I've left this site a few times but really it was just stuff that wasn't going my way. She'll be back to take offence another day.

He's pretty much come in to Dada's house and he didn't take his fucking shoes off. Take a poo son.


I like how I've been made out to be a woman hater when my signature was a parody made for her amusement too. Get me up on that cross.
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I like the guy. He actually gives a shit about interesting things like science and engineering. He's also more creative than nearly all of you. I have to say I prefer that to just <<takes offence, writes crap>>.

It's interesting to see the recurrent labels you've built up to tar the guy with. That fucking misogynist.

No-one really leaves this website anyway. I'm sure I've left this site a few times but really it was just stuff that wasn't going my way. She'll be back to take offence another day.

He's pretty much come in to Dada's house and he didn't take his fucking shoes off. Take a poo son.


I like how I've been made out to be a woman hater when my signature was a parody made for her amusement too. Get me up on that cross.
your comments in that topic were actually the worst and you feel completely justified about it too. you're a complete shithead who should really just leave this place forever in shame.
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I like the guy. He actually gives a shit about interesting things like science and engineering. He's also more creative than nearly all of you. I have to say I prefer that to just <<takes offence, writes crap>>.

It's interesting to see the recurrent labels you've built up to tar the guy with. That fucking misogynist.

No-one really leaves this website anyway. I'm sure I've left this site a few times but really it was just stuff that wasn't going my way. She'll be back to take offence another day.

He's pretty much come in to Dada's house and he didn't take his fucking shoes off. Take a poo son.


I like how I've been made out to be a woman hater when my signature was a parody made for her amusement too. Get me up on that cross.


cool parody bro
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man, that fucking nigger getting all upset that I called him a nigger. I'm just callin' a spade a spade. I told him I didn't really mean it!!! fucking pc bullshit
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I can't believe you just used the n-word...

Also (for sheer horror value) this actually exists: http://isitnormal.com/story/let-my-dog-lick-me-8375/

63% Normal!
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Haha you guys need to shut up now let's move on
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I agree with Afura and Farren, just drop it. It unfortunately seems to be going nowhere.

On the topic of autism, all I have is that fact that I have some people who seem to think I'm autistic. But I've never been diagnosed. Also, I can't remember who (it might have been Velfire, actually, but I'm not sure) immediately told me after mentioning this before that I wasn't autistic. *shrugs* I guess I need to get a doctor's opinion but there is no money for that.

From what my parents tell me:
-as a very young kid (toddler) I would go to the kitchen and stack and organize cans, this later lead to me organizing my hotwheels/matchbox cars by color and type.
-As a kid I was very picky and foods (I know every kid is picky) but my issues were a bit more noticeable, I also SPECIFICALLY had issues with the textures of foods.
-I've always been kind of clueless in social situations (but I've learned, and at this point I think that's not a noticeable aspect)
-I currently DESPERATELY want to 'complete' my various backlogs. (games, books, movies, tv)
-I've moved 9 times in my life, each time felt progressively worse. (difficulty with change)


I also took this test: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html

And got a '30' which is 2 points below what 80% of all people DIAGNOSED with autism got or more. So I'm like semi-autistic. Or may I'm just a nerd IDK.
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Haha you guys need to shut up now let's move on

I'm gonna, don't worry. I'm just sorry that you guys are in the 37% that just don't understand normality.


On the subject of Autism, my parents had me tested when I was a child because I knew the name and model of every car on the road at the time. Maybe all nerds are slightly this way.
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edit: fyi ed I don't think what you said is alright at all, tho I don't kno why you'd care
see, it's this sort of thing. "are you sure you're ready to be an admin?" "is this how you handle power?" you sound like a US presidential campaign ad. you don't care one bit about this whole situation or about the fact vellfire left, it's all about how YOU'VE been wronged and how I'm being mean to you.
christ.

I've been putzing around trying to find the words to respond, but I can't. the thing is, you're totally convinced. you'll never doubt yourself about this at all, because that's how you are. this isn't a game, we're all real people. congrats. I don't want to stop coming here, but I'm going to be on my toes for a while. I just, fuck it, I'm gone. at least for a while. I can't stand this.
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i was in atlantic city over the weekend for a friend's bachelor party.  as a place, it is a bold refutation of the concept of human dignity.
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I've been putzing around trying to find the words to respond, but I can't. the thing is, you're totally convinced. you'll never doubt yourself about this at all, because that's how you are. this isn't a game, we're all real people.
says the guy who hasn't yet come to terms with the fact that he contributed to the environment that caused vellfire to decide to leave. that's a real action by a real person who was really hurt by your actions.

you don't have to tell me that this isn't a game. I'm not doing the debate olympics here. all of this effort is 100% towards the defense of a human being who got wronged. yeah, we're all real people? how about vellfire? how about considering her as a person? how about not giving a medal to the guy harassing her?

and for the record, as I explained to you before, I didn't say you were the sole reason. you inferred that, but it's not true.

now, we've been going on about this for a while and we don't seem to be getting anywhere. but I don't want you to think I'm just arguing here for the sake of arguing. so let me just explain that if you want to help and actually do something constructive about this, and I don't think you can because you don't think that you're wrong, but you should acknowledge that you've said and defended some pretty awful things that genuinely bothered someone, and helped bring about her decision to leave this place because she literally couldn't stand it anymore. and then make a genuine apology to her for doing so with the knowledge that you were wrong. that would be a good first step. and you're not the only one I'd direct this advice to, you're not the only one responsible for this set of circumstances. but you have to realize that what we're talking about here with regard to your feelings on the matter is insignificant compared to the feelings of the person who was targeted to begin with.
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*Wasn't aware of all that stuff going on* l for one am hoping that Vell eventually comes back.There are a lot of people who love her here, which I hope in the end outshines anything else.
 UPDATE: I dropped her a line and she responded; it sound like she's leaving for a time, but not necessarily forever, which is good.
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you're so dense dada. I've acknowledged it before, and I'll do it again: I defended a guy who thinks some pretty bad things and said some awful things to vel, and I do apologize for any understandable stress this caused her or anyone. I don't defend or support any of the things he said. no, I'm not wrong about mince, but maybe I was wrong to stick my nose in. I should have just let it go.

and you're right, I'm not the only one responsible: YOU have played a much larger role than I. have you apologized to her? you are the one who let this go on for so long, you're the one who didn't do something about this sooner, you're the one who let it get to this stage and decided "welp let's just permaban him" instead of a smarter solution, like giving a temp ban as soon as he made an inflammatory post and removing offensive content. you're the one who argued with me about it, and now you sit here and patronize me after all the awful shit you said about me? and you think you have any room to comment about ed or mince? you're awful, man. you've never even considered the idea that you should apologize to me, have you? please temp ban me, a week or more - if that's something you even know how to do.
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Earl, while you may be trying to help things you may just end up fanning the flames. Everybody just CHILL YOUR HEAD as the thread says, sit on this and come back and try to discuss things a little more calmly. FYI, from what Vell said to me (She's leaving "for a while") she's taking a break, not leaving forever, so that's a relief.  *Blizzajas thread in annoyance*
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