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Read beyond that line.
i did. you seem to have it in your head that capitalism would be just great if it weren't for the big bad warlords in charge of the states. never was the case and never will be, capitalism creates a class society and within a class society the state is leveraged in the interest of the ruling class. seems like what's causing that mess is glaringly obvious(it's the capitalism)

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The entire austrian school is based on the premise that you can't reliably perform math on people, that it makes no sense to apply mathematical formula on models made of mathematical formulas made of mathematical models made of formulas.
ya fuck empirical quantitative analysis... there's a reason why nobody except annoying 'spergers take austrians seriously y'know. the rest of the world has passed em by while they're sitting there fingering their buttholes rambling about gold coins.

What I was getting at was that the 'computability problem' is a 'problem' invoked by people who know dick about computation.

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I'll read that later but it sounds like something straight out of the zeitgeist movement (which is just another form of utopian post-soviet communism) with computers instead of gosplan
maybe if you're a dumb baby and things like "diagonalization" sound like science fiction to you...

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Not it isn't ~*deal with it*~
according to you, who's admittedly never read marx and the austrians who've never understood marx(they're incapable of distinguishing ricardian and marxist theories of value).

ya sure i'll take your word for it... NOT! B-)
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Well, there's a reason no one takes marxian economics seriously either, except some nutty people who like to elaborate good-sounding fantasies about perfect classless communist utopias consisting exclusively of humandrones just before committing genocide. The reason is: it makes no sense to sane people. I'm not good at teh maths so I wouldn't know what diagonalisation means, but you're free to explain how you'd apply that to a person inside a test tube, how you empirically test your marxian theories on a perfectly controllable environment, how you genetically engineer a humandrone and so on. I'm pretty sure the end result will sound like science fiction.
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yeah nobody takes marxist critiques of political economy seriously... 'cept for just about every field of social science outside of economics(though you have folks like Brenner who're taken seriously in academia).

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then there was Roubini from NYU coming out in the WSJ saying that "Marx was right"...
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also the reason mainstream economists don't take Marx seriously is that they are taught things like "Marx's theory of value didn't take demand into account" in undergrad. (people literally tell me this.) and they they tell it to undergrads once they're professors.


ok back to hiatus bye sw. :]
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and it wasn't that long ago that Das Kapital was hitting the bestseller lists in Germany

but yah, nobody takes it seriously.... OR just like math, libtard doesn't know anything about marx.
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Guess what else was a best seller not too long ago?

Twilight.
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WELL YOU KNOW WHO ELSE WAS A BEST SELLER IN GERMANY

THAT'S RIGHT, HIT-

that's literally the level of your critical thinking
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That's probably the only thing you people will pay attention to


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there's a reason why nobody except annoying 'spergers take austrians seriously y'know. the rest of the world has passed em by while they're sitting there fingering their buttholes rambling about gold coins
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can you just tell me what your old user name was that's the only reason I check this thread
yeah nobody takes marxist critiques of political economy seriously... 'cept for just about every field of social science outside of economics(though you have folks like Brenner who're taken seriously in academia).
yeah, really. the fact libtard could argue that is pretty telling
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That's probably the only thing you people will pay attention to


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srry, not gonna give some guy going by "libtard" spouting austrian economics(complete with gleefully ignorant caricatures of marx) in a thread about healthcare reform a serious response.

instead i'm going to just drop the pretensions and call you a fucking idiot :-)
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H8rs gonna h8
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If you're older than 12 and take marx seriously... well, I've got bad news for you
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yeah that may have worked in the 80's and 90's bro, not anymore
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Tried to buy a copy of das kapital one day but the store didn't have a section for comedy books. The owner promptly went out of business and died of HIV and mental retardation due to the free market fixing stuff.
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Look at what you caused. This is all you fault.
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the family guy humor appears. who could have ever predicted a guy regurgitating the most standard ignorant american undergrad economy arguments that he admits to having learned on 4chan would resort to that. gotta go Louie and Wilfred are coming on
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the family guy humor appears. who could have ever predicted a guy regurgitating the most standard ignorant american undergrad economy arguments that he admits to having learned on 4chan would resort to that.
NOT ME NO SIR
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Well, there's a reason no one takes marxian economics seriously either, except some nutty people who like to elaborate good-sounding fantasies about perfect classless communist utopias consisting exclusively of humandrones just before committing genocide.
Yes, because there are people like you who keep equating economic equality with genocide.

MARX?? HE WAS THAT RUSSIAN WHO INVENTED GULAGS, RIGHT??

The reason is: it makes no sense to sane people.
Yep we shouldn't judge things based on a serious and proper analysis, but whether they "make sense". If people don' get it, it's not real. Time dilation in general relativity also don' exist. Now if you will excuse me I have to go make the last democratic vote I'll ever cast GO RON PAUL
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wow libtard you say retarded a lot.

you;re really gross you know that.
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