Topic: how to look for jobs/places to live in somewhere you don't already live (Read 1363 times)

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seems like a simple topic enough.  I finally may be getting out of the midwest after the end of the summer; but important thing such as a job and a place to live in somewhere where I don't have ready access to (eg: places that I would not be able to drive to which is like 15+ hours of driving) etc.    what advice to you peoples have regarding how to look for jobs and places to live, etc. in places where you don't already live/are hoping to maybe move to. etc.
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Craigslist for both.  Canvas potential places to live to see if they have job offerings that appeal to you/that you are qualified for and housing you are able to afford. 
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If it were me I'd either make a trip to the place I was planning to move to before I would be staying permanently and view some flats, get a proper sense of what the places were like. Otherwise I'd go there  and just stay in a cheap hostel for a couple of weeks while I looked around and found a suitable place that was available right away. Both are kind of expensive options, and it'd be cheaper to just set something up online and over the phone, but I wouldn't feel confident setting up a lease for a place I hadn't even seen - I don't know how many landlords would do that, either.
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I've been wanting to make a topic like this, but I wanted to talk more about cities and the importance of moving away from your hometown. I'm in philly now but that's less than 2 hours away from where I grew up. I want to go somewhere else. so far my list is:

baltimore
indianapolis
sacramento

I've scouted out these cities just with google, looking at the downtown in g maps and reading about them on websites. I had san francisco and boston on my list too, but someone I know who's working in the field advised me against them to start out because of the cost of living in those places. I'm not sure I'd fit in with the affluence of boston either, and I was kind of avoiding going someplace colder. also avoiding the south. each of those cities have something that interests me, eg a firm/a good downtown/ bikeable/proximity to other stuff

in my case, since I can't really travel to any of those places besides baltimore, I'd contact a firm I'm interested in to start out and try to have a job squared away before anything else. I've already checked out apartments in the area on g maps and have some in mind. not sure about the lease though!

edit: though I'd just want to move away for a few years to start, and probably end up moving back here or possibly going somewhere else or maybe even settling there permanently
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Depends on the kind of work you're looking for. A lot of transplants that I know are working for tech companies that basically had their move paid for by the company that hired them(Amazon, eBay, Google, etc.) and they got put up at company digs for a while to get settled. Most people who I know moved because they got hired by some specific company rather than chose the city first. So I'd start by picking whatever company you'd want to work at and look at where they've got offices or you could go to places like indeed.com and look at the kind of job openings are available in your desired city.
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yeah my list is baltimore/dc , denver, and chicago, depending on a lot of different things.     as far as job openings, I've been looking for things at universities and labs etc (biology degree) but it just seems so overwhelming right now. 
 
also yeah totally talk about making this about moving etc.
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i want to move to manchester but i can't just yet (dont want to move into a different shit job, so i'm taking my time with it)
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best way to look is online in the field you want to work and then call the places directly and ask as many questions as you can. Send in your resume through their HR rep via email and try to get a solid interview then go there and do that. Don't move till you got the job for sure and then get you a place. I'd save up enough money to rent and maybe live off of for a small amount of time during the transitional period but if you gotta do it on shorter notice then get a loan and use it to live there.

I'd get a credit card for smaller expenses and use a loan for renting an apartment or something.

They got alot of online sources for offshore work. Rigzone is a major one but just using google for your wanted job position and field will lead you to those places. I like what I do because where I'm working isn't necessarily where I'm gonna live. It might still be miles away. It might be international. So I can pick to live where the fuck ever and still work with alot of different companies. Its harder as an unlicensed though cus I gotta fly myself to my job office or yard where we go to work from there unless we're working international then the employer flies me from the nearest airport to wherever we're working. Some companies do that all of the time though for licensed or unlicensed. It just depends whos willing to dish out what.
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I've moved to three different countries now, but I've always applied for jobs weeks before I've moved and saved a shit load to fall back on. Stay in a hostel and you might meet people who are doing the same thing you are.

JMickle do you live in London? I've been here just over two months.
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anyone know anything about denver/boulder?
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pbest way to look is online in the field you want to work and then call the places directly and ask as many questions as you can. Send in your resume through their HR rep via email and try to get a solid interview then go there and do that. Don't move till you got the job for sure and then get you a place. I'd save up enough money to rent and maybe live off of for a small amount of time during the transitional period but if you gotta do it on shorter notice then get a loan and use it to live there.
 
interesting point, a lot of the jobs i've been looking at are through like universities or public health organizations, and are online postings.   anyone have experience with applying to jobs online?  should you just like submit resumes/cover letter unsolicited without other contacts or would you recommend doing the above?    
 
I guess what I'm saying is that my current job I got throuhg a mutual contact, and didn't really have to do the whole sending out your resume/cover letter/cold call thing, and I don't really know too much about it.
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I initially got mine through applying online. What I did was send in my resume with prior training and work experience on it. If you've got any contacts I'd  add that too. Even if you could get a typed letter from your employer mentioning your work ethic or what the fuck ever that helps alot too. My employer only accepts online resumes initially. They use them to sift through potential employees and figure out which one is closest to what they're looking for and then they contact potential employee through internet or phone and a face to face interview is set up.

I wouldn't try too hard when you get into it man. Pretty much speak plainly dress fairly nicely but don't act like something you're not. Try to get a resume typed up that is professional but not riddled with half made up bullshit and if you fit the spot they want you should get hired. I don't know what field you're looking to work in but as a responsible, fairly intelligent young person you shouldn't have a problem getting hired.

Shit I showed up to my interview in plaid shorts and a quicksilver t-shirt or some shit with my hair all bed head lookin and I looked hung over because I had to drive five hours to get there and I probably was hung over and I got the job without a problem. As long as you know the job and your responsibilies, try hard enough and don't act like a shithead you shouldn't have a problem.

I dunno it might be different for me I don't really deal with everyday people like hospitality or some shit they might expect you to look and act all primped up. I pretty much refuse to work for anyone anyways that goes off of what I look like and not how I speak, work, and what I know though.
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Also a good note is to keep stuff like training certificates if you've got to take any classes for your work. Keep copies of them and use that too. Also ask any of your supervisers you're cool with for letters of reccomendation that pretty much seals the deal. I got like two different chief mates letters of reccomendation and a captains. I could have gotten more but I haven't planned on moving to another employer atm.

Also if your employer gives quarterly or annual evaluations and they're not mediocre I'd keep and use copies of those too.
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I would recommend that you take as few things with you as possible when you move.  When I moved from Omaha to San Diego for graduate school, I only brought 2 dufflebags of things with me, aside from my bicycle.  While that might be on the extreme side, it is a decision I have yet to regret, and there are probably many things you might be surprised how well you can do without.
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Oh also on the subject of jobs, you said you want to work in a lab, which is great, but there's something to be wary of when it comes to online job postings.  Many times, especially at universities, those postings are nothing but a formality.  They already have chosen someone for the position, but to satisfy certain bureaucratic requirements, they must announce the position.  When possible, it's best to get some face-time with whoever is involved with the posting, because they will usually be candid about how realistic your prospects are, and whether they have someone in mind for the position.  If you don't have a lot of work experience in laboratories, one thing you might consider is doing volunteer research assistance while working some crappy job on the side to make rent.  It would be a very good opportunity to get to know more people who potentially could get you hired into paying positions.
 
At least, this has been my experience with cognitive science.
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Yeah I can see how that is. a bit disheartening, (i dont know if this is the case in microbiology etc) but if I can find something thats private sector its nbd or whatever, ya know?
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Stay in Nottingham, London is a terrible place to be.

One of these days ill escape!

I agree with Neuropath, even starting out with some volunteer work for what ever field your in, is never a bad thing and at the very least you will get some sort of experience from it.
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