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I'm taking a dumb but just saying that there ARE like dead moments in SW/like slow phases where nothing seemingly happens but funnily all kinds of bunch of types of idiot "oldies" (undies??) are frequentin' tarantinonin' dis every day anyways... (not saying this as a diss to frequenters)
life moves in different ways for everyone... you take the good with the bad... so yeah ive been thinkin that sometimes we are bunch of idiots but like GOOD idiots, like uh we are just human and i bet everyone lives in a different situation and is dealing with different shit and not possibly interested in making topics/posts. OR maybe is interested but is either a slow burner for actual posts/thoughts like me or then is hard to get around to make such posts.

so yeah i guess i'm saying that denquiz maroon etc all of you are cool fools but maybe it comes as a shock sometimes how little exciting happens here at times. okay ive said it. i like you folks but please dont take this as desperate plea, take your leave any time but there's lot of stuff not being said here sometimes (luckily its not negative type).

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Anyways!!! I was wondering about this, the summers is coming and we got this garbage world and everyone has different plans etc but how about showin some interest/like... what kind of topics are you guys been thinking of doing but not done/were planning to post later on/drawer ideas etc. and i'm not asking this as a general topic!

i was wondering if you guys had ideas but were unsure how others felt about participatin to it etc. i've got some ideas but i was unsure how did you feel about even blurtin' about those subjects etc. because zero to few replies might indicate that nobody is interested in the subject, ergo :^( / welp guess nobody posts in dis forum... MISUNDERSTANDINGS etc... so how about it!!

and i dont mean this as COME ON DO SOMETHING/MUSTER ENTHUASISM but i was thinking that we got this garbage 'hub' and a loose-close connections between different people here, and im nat kinda growin out of the idea of desperately upkeeping forum culture or identity in the face of imaginary audience observing our c00l \/\/3bs173 (gotta... gotta.)...   but i figured that maybe people don't want to promise anything they might not be able to keep at this age so maybe clearing up some treshold/confusion of 'am i gonna get interest in this subject' might be a good idea!

sorry for long-winded wack-ass crystal prison explanation. also sorry for strange inside-talk, i'm mostly trying to destroy my own post while on my way to my point (if it seems inclusive). dietcoke climbtree etc NON-DUMBTOPIC posts are welcome, they're a fireplace of goodwill...
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never been good at sharing my life/feelings via cool art or journal type writings...

instead i just like to point at things that i've thought about a lot and say "hey what about that" & hope conversation picks up & doesn't go off somewhere where i don't know what to say any more...
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good post, lol, uh, any particular post bring this topic on?
 
Anyway, yeah, I was thinking of making a topic or something about philosophical, ethical, and political things. I notice that in the general topic mostly people just post random tweet-like stuff which is fine but I kind of hope for some sort of sudden surge in "important" topics. They are exhausting but also the most interesting and I think its one of those things SW/GW thrives on, probably more than gaming talk and at least as much as cool art/music/literary/film stuff. Maybe I am being too bold in saying that though?
 
Also, I'll admit to having a sub-conscious "don't lose cool points" fear. When it comes to making topics because I worry the topic will be response-less/stillborn and I'll look like a dumbo.
 
Like, I was considering making a Game of Thrones topic but don't even know if anyone watches. I know its absurd but I avoid making topics it because I think "no one posted, they all must think I'm a tool." or something to that effect.
 
Like I said RATIONALLY I understand this is absurd. Sub-conciously its a real worry.
 
Kind of like my fear of bees. Its not a rational thing.
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never been good at sharing my life/feelings via cool art or journal type writings...

instead i just like to point at things that i've thought about a lot and say "hey what about that" & hope conversation picks up & doesn't go off somewhere where i don't know what to say any more...
your threads are excellent, by the way
 
I just never have much to say, although there are a few half-threads somewhere on here. I will think about those things a bit more & see if anything comes from it.
 
how much time do people have for new old games these days? I have a lot or a little, and I've been thinking of doing an Adventure/IF Game of the <set period> Club sort of thing
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these are some things i might try to make threads about but haven't yet...


i kinda really want to try creating my own game engine, it would be script-based (at least at first, then later some GUI tools, then even later maybe try to put them together into some kind of IDE) and be standalone desktop app type not web/mobile and i dont know why anyone would ever use it instead of something eles that already exists... but i still really wanna try it, if just one person found it & made a cool game with it they probably wouldnt have ended up making any other way, i'd be happy.....


i am really interested in mental models, nonfictional narratives, the Big Ideas that people use to make sense of the world... and especially, the history of these ideas, almost treating them like they are living things: where were they "born", what were their earliest successes and failures, how did they rise to be the top of the pack, what weird & unique behaviours/situations/artifacts came about through their quirks, what eventually killed them off.... this is i think the recurring theme in adam curtis TV stuff that i find really compelling...


miscellanous games & bits of nerd ephemera from the past... the 1980s choose-your-own-adventureish life sim alter ego, maybe i could do a project thread on it, work out how to extract all the "vignette" scripts, compare the male & female editions, maybe try porting it to ren'py or twine or something (i know there is already an online version out there)... the grapevine diskmag on the amiga always fascinated me (1 2)... cd-rom interactive storybooks for kids from the 90s (arthur's teacher trouble: 1 2 3 4 / paintbox pals presents peter pan: 1 2)... the early you don't know jack cd-rom games (especially vol 4: the ride is my fave) are v interesting to me for the care they take in timing & suspension of disbelief in order to be funny in a video game...
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miscellanous games & bits of nerd ephemera from the past... the 1980s choose-your-own-adventureish life sim alter ego, maybe i could do a project thread on it, work out how to extract all the "vignette" scripts, compare the male & female editions, maybe try porting it to ren'py or twine or something (i know there is already an online version out there)... 
 
I am a ridiculously huge fan of alter ego and will post all up in an alter ego thread if you ever make one.
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i am really interested in mental models, nonfictional narratives, the Big Ideas that people use to make sense of the world... and especially, the history of these ideas, almost treating them like they are living things: where were they "born", what were their earliest successes and failures, how did they rise to be the top of the pack, what weird & unique behaviours/situations/artifacts came about through their quirks, what eventually killed them off.... this is i think the recurring theme in adam curtis TV stuff that i find really compelling...

 
This thread is now about Adam Curtis.
I think the dude's got a lot of his stuff pretty sound. However I think he does sink too far into, well, being dismissive of the concept of idealologies, leading some of his documentaries to be distant and machine-like, which is something he regularly targets as a main issue of modern life. It extends a bit far from journalistic neutrality and becomes a hypocritical judgement. Like when talking about the stupid idea of treatming of game theory, his approach towards it could be described as the same kind of cold logic he bemoans. There's kinda a half-liberal half-conservative kinda centrist viewpoint going on in there, but there's no real consistency.
 
I like what he does and find it refreshing that the BBC actually comission shows like The Power Of Nightmares (which I would recommend everybody watch as it's a good crash course in the myth of the 'terrorist' situation), but he kinda falls victim to his own trap. Saying that people who don't believe in anything fear anyone who believes in something, yet Curtis has openly admited, he has no firm beliefs. Some people take his word as gospel truth, but I think you've got to have some understanding of a subject before watching his shows on it so you can appreciate the fine points you may have not realised, within a bigger picture that you're already aware of.
 
Also on an asthetic level, the frequent use of Brian Eno's ambient works as well as Chaplin's score for The Great Dictator really work wonders and match the visuals/themes to a suprising accuracy. Also the minimalist post-Barbara Krueger BLOCK TEXT and straight-foward no bullshit visual style is really pleasing in a time where documentaries generally go way over the top with flashy graphics to hide the fact that they've got nothing much to say. He doesn't shut up or pause for dramatic effect, or allow some CGI dildo to fly around the screen for a minute after every point he makes, and thankfully he doesn't treat the shows like a 'personal journey' (Looking at you Horizon) it's just constant information, which is how I prefer my docs.
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I am a ridiculously huge fan of alter ego and will post all up in an alter ego thread if you ever make one.
then here we go!!

http://saltworld.net/forums/topic/12648-peter-j-favaros-alter-ego-1986/
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alotta people on here would have to feign an interest in conversation on somethin other than the new farcry or fuckin goblins 3 or some dumb tv show in order to do that. Which is why this place is and has been pretty stale, people refuse to talk about anything out of certain fetishisms.
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alotta people on here would have to feign an interest in conversation on somethin other than the new farcry or fuckin goblins 3 or some dumb tv show in order to do that. Which is why this place is and has been pretty stale, people refuse to talk about anything out of certain fetishisms.
 
this isn't true at all sorry
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that's salt world. all we ever talk about is the new farcry...
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it's not that we don't want to talk about other things, it's that it's hard to get people to TALK.  people don't wanna put themselves out there and start topics about what interests them (which was discussed in this very topic) but videogames and w/e are incredibly safe topics that people feel comfortable making.  it has nothing to do with what we're interested in discussing but thanks for being incredibly condescending
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we need to get more people active in the artistry/music/game design etc forums the creative ones and that sort of thing because that will buzz interest in people both to post their creative projectes (hint: we have a very talented community, it just seems like nobody gives a shit about each other) and can lead to other discussion things
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really because I think you could talk about gardening and be reletively safe....or traveling....or cars....or working out...nimbus goddamn clouds.....technology if not focused on some new fruity loops update or rpg maker 2014. There are hundreds of things you could talk about and share information about and be reletively safe. I get that theres no drive to talk anymore but I think its out of sheer laziness and a lack of putting oneself into anything else. Its been like this for a very long time and is steadily getting worse. I see jamie and some other folks doing shit like this but few others.
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Gardening? What is there to say about frickin' gardening?
 
I've been involved in growing green beans and some other veggies lately because my dad bought the seeds and wanted to plant them as sort of a diversion and method of saving money on vegetables through growing our own. I've ended up doing some of the work he was supposed to do. I really intensely dislike gardening itself. The results are kind of neat, because you know, super fresh veggies and what not but working under the hot sun in 80-90 degree weather and 80-90% humidity shoveling dirt/mud or handling with your hands and then coming indoors smelling like sweat and mud blows. Screw gardening. ROBOTS SHOULD BE DOING THAT SHIT.
 
but yeah, those other examples elude me for one reason or another. Except maybe technology... but people really respond to any of my posts on technology stuff.
 
We just need more topic posting. I've been improving a little on that. I've posted that daft punk topic :P and I plan on posting some sort of philosophical/ethics/politics topic but I'm still sort of sitting on the idea trying to think of a good way to write up the first post. Needs to be a bit more substantial than "PHILOSOPHY! DISCUSS!"
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you don't have to garden when it's hot out, you can do it on a nice day or wear a big straw hat and drink ice tea

I don't really find anything rewarding in planting gaudy annuals, but beyond that I think gardening/planting is a good recreational activity, and believe it or not there's been a lot of research essentially proving this is true
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in terms of creating threads: I dunno, it's kind of hard to work up the motivation to put real effort into a topic when you have a feeling it's only going to get a couple joke posts or some worthless one-line criticism, and a couple lukewarm/compensatory attempts at showing interest. obviously that's not how every thread is, but there's precedent of this and I feel like it's been moving more in that direction for a while. if you're gonna say "we need more threads" I think you should consider whether you've been contributing anything to the threads people have been creating. that's not um, a dis towards anyone or anything.

besides that, what's happening here isn't too dissimilar to what a lot of smaller cities face. an obvious part of the problem is the fact that we just don't have enough people to support a great variety of threads. with our limited user base, it's not super easy to come up with something that anyone else will be interested in and isn't the same garbage we already know. but how can we attract people with only a handful of threads?? the death and life of great internet forums, invisible messageboards...clearly, what this place needs is any sort of attraction, and I think that can come in many other forms than more threads. but it can't hurt I guess!
 
 
 
 
btw, I was thinking of starting a series of threads about specific bands. just like well-established bands that at least a few of us would probably be into, or obscure bands that one of us obsesses over, and talk about how good or bad they are and rank their discogs and post videos or covers or whatever. real basic stuff. but music, while very accessible, is also a kind of tired subject that a load of other sites focus on more comprehensively than we ever could. I guess one way we could do it is to try and make it distinctly saltw (Keep Saltw Weird), but I'm not sure I'm competent enough about music to do that.
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irrigation, hydroponic gardening, different crops. What to do with them when you harvest as far as drying fruits/veggies out. different soil compositions. I dunno shit about gardening but self-sustaining alternative eco-friendly tech, skillsets, and methodology I find really interesting.

I wanted to make one about different ways to invest money cus I wanna get familiar with how to do it. I read something about investing in foreign currency a long time ago which seemed pretty interesting but I don't know much about it otherwise. I know dietcoke talked a little bit on gold and rare stones and some other things I think. Also I like when earl talks about his arcitect stuff or renovating delapitated parks and industrial areas.  good subjects spark up here and there even in just the general thread they just aren't carried out enough cus some dude comes in talkin bout his chipsets or a midi off of an early 90s ms-dos game and said discussion is comepletely lost and dropped for regurgitating the same vein of discussion we've been mostly having for the past few years. I don't get this "safe topic" shit. Its the internet. If that means something you exclusively know about on your own then I'd at least try to invest a feigning interest in anything else at the very least for sake of discussion alone. If it means actually getting offended on the internet then that person should prolly just grow up?
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Also philosophy generally on its own is a rabbit hole into a bunch of people saying "IM A THIS OR IMA THAT". Maybe talking about aristotle or some other renown philosophers and the kinds of things they claimed or wrote about and different ideologies would be cool. Quantum physics esque stuff is really cool as long as its fairly layman and easy to comprehend. As far as politics goes its easier to talk about political movements or the kind of changes/degression certain political bigwigs are making such as bills being passed or what the hell mccain and his lackies are up to now. International issues are really interesting. There was an article brought up here about india and micro loans awhile ago which was really interesting but as long as its geared towards an actual subject and the spawning/discussion of such and whatever that progresses into and not just LETS TALK BOUT LIBS or something really stripped down and boring talking politics is always fun long as people don't get pissy cus you don't think like they do or accept their belief systems.
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