GW6 - Info and I need your opinions, post here to win prize!

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Bart

#1 September 06, 2006, 02:46:50 am

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EDIT: IF I DONT REPLY TO YOUR PM, I AM NOT IGNORING YOU. JUST BE PATIENT OK LOVE? THANKS

So the last GW6 topic was created back at the start of summer, it's now the end of summer and people are a bit confused as to what's going on!

I personally did not know myself how GW6 was going until about a few weeks ago when I decided to come back to this lovely place on the internet. Unfortunately, GW6 development slowed down near the end of summer.

I really want to see the site get done because east did such a great job on the layout, and you all deserve to stop seeing COASTERCRAFT GOLD as the newest game on the main site.

With this in mind, I took over site development a week or so ago, and have been slowly working my way through, and figuring out exactly how it needs to be all done. Things are coming, but I work full time, have relationships, friends, etc so my time is limited, but still enough to get the coding done I hope! However, there is many more aspects of GW that need work and that is where I need your help! But first...

I have made a decision that I want to release GW6 in a minimal form, so for example in Week 1 of release, the only "new" thing will be games. Staff and users alike would be able to manage games and have them posted on GW. Everything regarding games (That isn't solely linked to another part of the site) would be up and running. Then, other portions of the site would just link back to old GW5 content until it got done.

With this setup, we can get new content rolling out faster and people will be able to give their opinions on GW6 and things that might be hard to change 5 months from now, will be much easier to change now! I would like to hear your opinions on this idea btw, so please post!

Regardless if you like the idea or not, GW needs people. The staff is pretty much DEPLETED since the site hasn't seen an update in months. I want to start slow, and get going on a staffer or two who would be highly interested in doing Games (By this, I mean adding games, screens, downloads, managing it all, etc). Apart from Games, if you're interested in becoming a writer, moderator, or anything you think you'd be good at for GW, then please feel free to pm me and we can talk about it!

That's about it. If you guys like my idea of releasing the site in "parts", then we could have something out soon as I finished all forms of Game coding this past Friday, and am now working on the layouts for all the pages. After that, it's merely getting the basic user panel and such working and we can work from there, but of course before I do that -- I need your opinions!

Last Edit: September 06, 2006, 04:47:26 am by Bart

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Doktormartini

#2 September 06, 2006, 02:53:48 am

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I like the parts idea. If I understand it correctly, basically if that certain part of GW6 isn't completed yet, then it will just link you to that part from GW5 right? That's good so you can still see some of the older stuff while you wait.

I wish I could help with the staff part but I have no experience, don't have lots of free time to do it, and no one here likes me. I'm just glad to see you are back working on GW Bart! It wasn't the same without you!

P.S. Where is my prize!?

Dok Choy

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ase

#3 September 06, 2006, 02:57:34 am

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Yeah, I definitely agree that making GW6 available ASAP is better than waiting God-knows-how-many-months until the WHOLE THING is perfect and released.

By saying that other non-game stuff will link to GW5 content, that doesn't mean that those links will lead to GW5 content in GW5 SITE LAYOUT, will it? I'm assuming everything will be under east's new layout right?

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Bart

#4 September 06, 2006, 02:58:40 am

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^^ No, if the section isn't done it'll just link to the old site. It would take just as long putting all the old content into GW6 as it would to code the new parts of it.

Quote from: Doktormartini on September 06, 2006, 02:53:48 am

I like the parts idea. If I understand it correctly, basically if that certain part of GW6 isn't completed yet, then it will just link you to that part from GW5 right? That's good so you can still see some of the older stuff while you wait.

Yea, that's exactly how it'll be.

also, here is your prize:

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Animus

#5 September 06, 2006, 03:07:33 am

Ummm.... Yeah..... XD
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ZOMG, beautiful prize Bart -- I am ECSTATIC to see you behind GW again. I was so sad when I came back to GW a few months ago and found out you had NOTHING to do with it anymore.

I like your idea for changing it piece by piece, it pleases all those people who are impatient for GW6, and helps bring problems in slowly.

(As in, instead of getting every error on GW6 reported on the day it comes out, you get a few errors on the day this section is released, then a few more on the day another section is released, etc...)

EDIT:
Oh my god, this topic was so awesome, it crashed GW forums on my computer... for like two seconds.

Last Edit: September 06, 2006, 03:09:38 am by Animus

Yeah.

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Impeal

#6 September 06, 2006, 03:08:29 am

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Yeah, the "parts idea" sounds like a good plan. It'll probably help the project move along quicker, and like you said, it should make it easier to change things. Plus, I am eager to see the main site active again.

Also, just so everyone is aware: The Dictionary will be transferring over to a wiki before the end of this year, hopefully around the same time as the completion of GW6. Discussion about the wiki can be held/read in this topic.

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UPRC

#7 September 06, 2006, 03:09:01 am

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Quote from: Bart

So the last GW6 topic was created back at the start of summer, it's now the end of summer and people are a bit confused as to what's going on!

What's going on.

Quote from: Bart

I personally did not know myself how GW6 was going until about a few weeks ago when I decided to come back to this lovely place on the internet. Unfortunately, GW6 development slowed down near the end of summer.

I really want to see the site get done because east did such a great job on the layout, and you all deserve to stop seeing COASTERCRAFT GOLD as the newest game on the main site.

How dare you say that... Coastercraft Gold is a quality game!!!

Quote from: Bart

With this in mind, I took over site development a week or so ago, and have been slowly working my way through, and figuring out exactly how it needs to be all done. Things are coming, but I work full time, have relationships, friends, etc so my time is limited, but still enough to get the coding done I hope! However, there is many more aspects of GW that need work and that is where I need your help! But first...

I have made a decision that I want to release GW6 in a minimal form, so for example in Week 1 of release, the only "new" thing will be games. Staff and users alike would be able to manage games and have them posted on GW. Everything regarding games (That isn't solely linked to another part of the site) would be up and running. Then, other portions of the site would just link back to old GW5 content until it got done.

With this setup, we can get new content rolling out faster and people will be able to give their opinions on GW6 and things that might be hard to change 5 months from now, will be much easier to change now! I would like to hear your opinions on this idea btw, so please post!

I think that this is a cool idea. GW5 was pretty much just all thrown up at once with the exception of a few pages, and I can understand how it would have been frustrating and time consuming for you to add new features after the layout had been rolled out.

Quote from: Bart

Regardless if you like the idea or not, GW needs people. The staff is pretty much DEPLETED since the site hasn't seen an update in months. I want to start slow, and get going on a staffer or two who would be highly interested in doing Games (By this, I mean adding games, screens, downloads, managing it all, etc). Apart from Games, if you're interested in becoming a writer, moderator, or anything you think you'd be good at for GW, then please feel free to pm me and we can talk about it!

I know I've pulled a Mori (no offence to Mori, he rocks) and left staff twice - though the second time was for personal reasons, I do love to help. I did games for what, six or seven months, and it was pretty fun, but I bet any senior staffer left right now wants to get their paws on that position.
I'm a piss poor writer, and I'd avoid that position with a passion except... To interview! Yeah, if you ever want an interviewer or some shit, I'd love to run around the community like a nosey little dick prying into people's personal lives or whatever. It's actually something I'd like to take a stab at in some form or another in my life.
I won't even touch on moderating, because I don't think that users should come asking about that sort of position - the staff should come to them.
Resource adding was fun, but I was stuck with the old GW staff panel which was really limited. I never checked out the resources section in the GW5 staff panel, so I have no idea how it works.. But if it is pretty flexible and stuff (more than picking a picture from a list of ten or so and entering a description/category for it), I wouldn't mind doing that.

Quote from: Bart

That's about it. If you guys like my idea of releasing the site in "parts", then we could have something out soon as I finished all forms of Game coding this past Friday, and am now working on the layouts for all the pages. After that, it's merely getting the basic user panel and such working and we can work from there, but of course before I do that -- I need your opinions!

Yes. Release it in parts. That is my opinion!!!
Seriously though, great idea. I'd imagine that the site could turn out to be super flexible and friendly if it is done this way.

Last Edit: September 06, 2006, 03:28:37 am by UPRC

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Doktormartini

#8 September 06, 2006, 03:13:11 am

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Holy shite that prize is amazing! Thanks Bart!

Dok Choy

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TFT

#9 September 06, 2006, 03:23:10 am

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I think it's a wonderful idea. Just having games updated alone would be worth it while everything else is in the process of being done. Definitely will get a lot more game and member traffic.

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Beasley

#10 September 06, 2006, 03:24:10 am

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Yeah, I think it's a good idea in general. I'm always available to help with whatever you need help with on the site should you need someone to fill a position.

I look forward to the whole thing regardless.

p.s. final fantasy CHAOS SHADOWS > coastercraft gold

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Bobberticus

#11 September 06, 2006, 03:30:39 am

now that's what I'm talking about
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Yeah, I won't have the patience to wait for the whole thing to be done

The plan sounds good...

fuck it all, dd is dead

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VinceP

#12 September 06, 2006, 03:36:24 am

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Can't wait to see the main site bustling with activity again.

I used to check it every day, but then it all died VERY QUICKLY. Releasing it in parts would be great.

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Stadsport

#13 September 06, 2006, 03:49:28 am

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I'm pretty excited to see GW6 finally start to come around, it's been looking great since the start (Except the, you know, deadness).

If you need a staff position or something filled, I wouldn't mind doing it. You have my MSN dont you bart?

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Bart

#14 September 06, 2006, 03:49:50 am

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Quote from: Stadsport on September 06, 2006, 03:49:28 am

I'm pretty excited to see GW6 finally start to come around, it's been looking great since the start (Except the, you know, deadness).

If you need a staff position or something filled, I wouldn't mind doing it. You have my MSN dont you bart?

Ya I do, in profile.

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Stadsport

#15 September 06, 2006, 03:59:52 am

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Quote from: Bart on September 06, 2006, 03:49:50 am

Ya I do, in profile.

Give me a jingaling if you want me to do anything, then.

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Acid

#16 September 06, 2006, 04:13:00 am

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I used to go the main site all the time! and then i started getting into the forums and around my 100th post it stopped

But yeah, parts are good, and keeps the site fresh and healthy.

If you need a mod or a staff member or someone to help you out i can, i was a former staff member at Golden Falcon...that british one, im still friends with Stormx...anyway, yeah im pretty sure my msn is in my profile or you can use my pm, but im not getting my hopes up for obvious reasons.

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Jayce

#17 September 06, 2006, 04:36:28 am

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The main site was pretty good back when things were updated regularly, I used to check it every day to see if new games or reviews came out, but sadly they just kinda stopped suddenly...
I was ever so heartbroken (lol?)

One thing I think you should do (if you haven't considered it already) is provide hosting for small games, most of the older games left on the main site pretty much lead to broken links and so we've been trying to revive them by making the 'Rare Games Topic' in Game and Demo.
Hosting games however would surely make things more efficient and 'clean' since most of the newbies of today only use temp hosts such as rapidshare and megaupload...

I'd even go as far as doing all of the transferring if everyone else isn't bothered...

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Bart

#18 September 06, 2006, 04:37:00 am

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Quote from: Acid on September 06, 2006, 04:13:00 am

I used to go the main site all the time! and then i started getting into the forums and around my 100th post it stopped But yeah, parts are good, and keeps the site fresh and healthy.

If you need a mod or a staff member or someone to help you out i can, i was a former staff member at Golden Falcon...that british one, im still friends with Stormx...anyway, yeah im pretty sure my msn is in my profile or you can use my pm, but im not getting my hopes up for obvious reasons.

Boy, with that kind of attitude you'll get nowhere!

Really, if you're interested just PM me with what you want to do, why you think you can help, etc. I'll get back to everyone who PM's me. Doesn't mean all of them will be HIRED but I'm not going to ignore someone just because they have a low post count

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Bart

#19 September 06, 2006, 04:38:32 am

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Quote from: Carius on September 06, 2006, 04:36:28 am

The main site was pretty good back when things were updated regularly, I used to check it every day to see if new games or reviews came out, but sadly they just kinda stopped suddenly...
I was ever so heartbroken (lol?)

One thing I think you should do (if you haven't considered it already) is provide hosting for small games, most of the older games left on the main site pretty much lead to broken links and so we've been trying to revive them by making the 'Rare Games Topic' in Game and Demo.
Hosting games however would surely make things more efficient and 'clean' since most of the newbies of today only use temp hosts such as rapidshare and megaupload...

I'd even go as far as doing all of the transferring if everyone else isn't bothered...

Ya, one of my huge quirks is broken links due to 3rd party hosts. I really want to host ALL games put on GW (Outside of any special ones that demand an outside link) and I probably will have that done for the new game section

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Happy HELLoween

#20 September 06, 2006, 05:13:04 am

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Have you ever developed a complete application before? The parts idea is not a good idea because you end up with halfassed work.
Like, if you are going to do it then do it all, and do it right.

http://itch.io - sell your indie games

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