god forbid someone form his own opinion on a movie

hey thanks for reading!!

next time actually pay attention ok

Oldboy was cool' date=' but [b']god damn those Koreans and their fucking nonsense.[/b]

Man, I'd hate to see what you'd think of the Americans after watching films like Hostel. Jesus christ.

i wasn't bashing him for having his own opinion

i was bashing him since <enter random film here> doesn't make a countries film history ridiculous.

It's just a matter of opinion, mate. I'm annoyed by the fact that those movies have gotten so much artistic respect. If you try to analyze it, it's basically just your average hollywood action flicks with cockiness and car chases replaced by psychological torture and slapstick knife fights. It's not art to build up scenarios to evoke the strongest possible emotions from the viewer without having any point behind it. At least the hollywood crap isn't pretentious.

Since you havent grasped what I'm actually talking about, you do know Park Chan-Wook is one of the, if not the most extreme director from South Korea. Of course his films arn't going to be a walk in the park, they are going to be edgy, scarring and disturbing. It's the same with the Japanese, with Takashi Miike, his films include some scenes such as tearing a childs head off, necrophilia, incest, mass-murder, grevious bodily harm, limbs flying everywhere. But the fact his films include such scenes doesn't make the entire history of Japanese films ridiculous? So why would it be like that for South Korea?

Maybe you need to start watching some Korean films which arn't created by their most extreme director? Perhaps you should try checking out their beautiful period pieces? Chiwaseon, Spring.. Summer.. Winter and Spring Again, The King and the Clown?

There are other sides to these countries than just violence, torture etc.

And anyway, what are you on about? Hollywood crap isn't pretentious? You really need to check out Cabin Fever and Hostel. Kill Bill too. Cabin Fever was aclaimed as the best horror film in, what, 20 years? It's possibly the worst film I've ever seen. Now that's pretentious, mate.

Please try to back up your statements, man.

Uhm, my point was that the mainstream stuff from Korea that makes it here is lame. You don't have to take it upon you to defend the entire Korean culture. There's probably a much more artistic branch of Korean cinematography, but the people I know who are into to Asian films aren't interested that. They want swords, guts and torture. Somehow they get that too seem intellectual because the actors aren't speaking English.

I'd gladly check out a few more sublime Korean movies if you think that would do me good. I've thought about downloading brotherhood, but I'm not much for war-movies. Chihwaseon, would that be a good starter?

Just don't tell me that I don't grasp what you're talking about. I've bickered about this shit many times before

PS: Glad to hear someone else thinks Kill Bill is fucking over rated!

What Korean films have you watched?

And yeah, Chiwaseon is a beautiful film. That's always a good place to start.

This topic reminds me of media studies at school, where we were asked to put down our fave films and some kids thought they were SUPER INTELLIGENT AND FUNNY by putting down LESBIAN ADVENTURES 2: SCHOOLYARD SESSIONS.

I really have no idea where to start listing my top 10 but I just have to say The Departed is pretty high up there now. Great film!

I have to force myself to watch this film, but that still doesn't change the fact I want to beat the hell out of you for saying that.

But yes, I really need to see if it's as good as the original. The director is very talented, so I'm expecting a good show.

I saw this topic a while ago but I took my time to actually think about what my top 10 favorite movies are. Most of that time went into determining what order they go in. Anyways!

#1, The Goonies. If you don't like The Goonies, then just what the hell is your problem? I have absolutely no moral qualms with running at and kicking someone down a stairwell from behind if they have seen this movie and don't like it.

#2, To Kill a Mockingbird. I read the book way back in grade 9, but I didn't see the movie until about a year ago. Normally I don't have the patience to sit through most films from the black and white era (not enough punch/kick/explosians) but if I catch To Kill a Mockingbird on TV, I will usually derail whatever plans I had until the movie is over. One of the things that really got my attention about this movie is that all of the actors they chose looked pretty damn near exact to how I pictured the characters in my head when reading the book (with the exception of one or two, but)

#3, Lost and Delirious. It's a movie about these two girls who go to a private school and are sleeping with each other, but nobody else knows about it at first except for their close friend (the narrator). But eventually, one of the girls' younger sister walks in on them, and word gets out (everyone at the school and their families are pretty conservative). She breaks up with the girl and cleverly downplays the whole thing to save face, but the other girl can't deal with this. She then tries to prove her love through a series of very public and self-destructive feats. If you have ever been a chump and in love, you will be able to relate very strongly to this movie!

#4, The Breakfast Club. I still haven't seen it in it's entirety, which is the only thing keeping it from being higher on my list!!!

#5, The Other Sister. Notable for being a movie about two mentally retarded people falling in love and getting married, without being a gross-out comedy starring Rob Schneider. I mean, it's kind of funny in parts, but not in a completely demeaning way!

#6, What's Eating Gilbert Grape. It's got some of the best acting I've ever seen. (Not to mention that Johnny Depp is a total dreamboat)

#7, The Addams Family. We got this for like $2 because there was some sort of promotional McDonalds thing where they were selling shitty old movies for really cheap with happy meals or something. I remember watching this as a kid, and rewinding/replaying the scene where they go down the slide enough times to make my parents yell at me.

#8, Apocalypse Now. Yeah, ¹I am pretty much one of those idiots who loves movies about war.

#9, Saving Private Ryan. (See ¹)

#10, Geez, I don't know. I couldn't think of anything else. Numbers 8 through 10 don't even really matter, do they?

EDIT: #10, RUMBLE IN THE BRONX

1. Terminator 2: Judgement day
I must have seen this movie 100 times. Ever since I was a kid, this film has topped my fave movies list while the rest of the list changed with the seasons. I never get tired of the intense action, the gripping drama and the incredible adventure that is Terminator 2. Robert Patrick as the T-1000 ranks as my favourite movie villian ever, and this is still the ONLY Arnie film that hasn't made me cringe atleast once to a poorly executed quip. T2 picks up more than a decade after the events of the first film. Sarah Connor has been committed to a mental institution, while her son, John Connor - destined to lead a future human resistance against a dominating army of machines - is in foster care and in denial of everything his mother taught him. From the future, an advanced machine assassin comes to kill John, and another comes to protect him.

2. Gattaca
Ethan Hawke delivers the best performance of his career as Vincent Freeman, and how he became Jerome Morrow. Born naturally-concieved in a world of genetic perfection where babies are concocted in laboratories. A world where a person's full potential is determined before conception, where life-expectancy and probable cause of death can be predicted at birth. With his own genes against him, Vincent exchanges his life and identity with Jerome Morrow; a man born perfect, now cripled and willing to give his genetic identity to someone who can better use it. Vincent becomes Jerome in order to achieve his goal of space exploration and defy his own fate. Great soundtrack too.

3. Chopper
Eric Bana stars as Mark Reed aka "Chopper". Based on (though quite exaggerated in parts) the life of one of Australia's most notorious criminals, the film explores Chopper's time in prison (from being stabbed by his best friend, recieving death threats, and cutting off his own ears to convince a warden to transfer him to another prison) - as well as Chopper's struggle to assimilate with society after release. It's too hard to summarize the rest of this film. It has a fantastic dark humour about it, and an amazing array of one-liners. It's still amazing how such a feared criminal has become a best-selling author, and an Australian icon.

4. The Lord of the rings Trilogy
I love all three films equally. I find it hard to seperate the three. I also don't feel like I need to summarize what LOTR is about.


And because I'm too damn fussy to pick ten (in full order) and write summaries for them all:

Fight Club
Memento
Medicine Man
The Matrix
The Manchurian Candidate (1963)
Saving Private Ryan
Patton
Aliens
Rocky
The Shawshank redemption
Boyz in the hood
The defiant ones

I can't make a real list, but here's my favorites, in no order:

-Little Miss Sunshine
-Crash
-The Eye
-American Psycho
-Arthur
-Rules Of Attraction

Those would definetly be on the list. :P

man, every time someone tells me that crash is a good movie, i die a little inside

1. Little Nemo Adventures In Slumberland
2. Wizard Of Oz
3. Return To Oz
4. Beverly Hills Cop
5. Big Trouble In Little China
6. Escape From L.A
7. Escape From New York
8. The Goonies
9. Moonwalker (fucking amazing)
10. Labyrinth

There's no real order, although I told myself I would marry a girl who loved Little Nemo Adventures In Slumberland.