Its all about the THC man.

There has never been a documented human fatality from marijuana.[9] Information about THC's toxicity is derived from animal studies. The toxicity depends on the route of administration and the laboratory animal. Absorption is limited by serum lipids, which can become saturated with THC, mitigating toxicity.[10] According to the Merck Index, 12th edition, THC has a LD50 (dose killing half of the research subjects) value of 1270 mg/kg (male rats) and 730 mg/kg (female rats) administered orally dissolved in sesame oil.[11] The LD50 value for rats by inhalation of THC is 42 mg/kg of body weight.[11] One estimate of Cannabis's LD50 for humans indicates that about 1500 pounds of marijuana would have to be smoked within 15 minutes.[12] This estimate is supported by studies which indicate that the effective dose of THC is at least 1000 times lower than the estimated lethal dose (a "safety ratio" of 1000:1). This is much higher than alcohol (safety ratio of 10), cocaine (15), or heroin (6).[13]

skunk, hash, chronic as long as you aren't smoking 1500 pounds of pot in 15 minutes then you're fine.

No real (or proven) long lasting psychological effects.

What I was saying before, those kids you mentioned were probably either on something that actually was dangerous and did fuck them up, or they already had psychological problems to begin with. It wasn't the weed and it shouldn't be weed that you're worried about.

synthetic or not its still THC and unless they're putting some dangerous ass chemical in it when growing or afterward then it doesn't matter its just more concentrated THC and less money spent to get high!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THC
 
It does say something about increased psychosis in already psychotic patients, but that has been refuted and studies aren't certain on it. Also increased Cognitive function on schizophrenic patients but I don't' see how that could be bad...

I just take studies with a grain of salt unless they make alot of sense to me and go by what I actually see.

Some people are really immature and dumb and don't know to keep calm when they're experiencing a high or anything like that and do not understand it. Like I said you would have to be really really stupid to smoke a joint and freak out.

The first time I did it it and REALLY got high it kind of unsettled me because I was drunk already and fell over on the floor and just couldn't move. It wasn't like I there against my will I just didn't feel like moving and I fell asleep.

You've got to be mentally ready for something like that I guess if you can't really get a grasp on the concept of "getting really high". But its not dangerous. Might freak you out a little bit, but unless you've got the mindset of an infant virtually anyone should be ok about it.

But I guess there are always exceptions.

Edit: Then again I've seen dogs and puppies get high too and they can handle it just fine so you'd have to be stupider or more unstable then a fucking animal to not be able to handle it (in my opinion)

jorge those kids were doing something other than smoking marijuana

also were they eating acid YOU WOULD DEFINITELY NOTICE as it is not something that can be confused with being stoned whatsoever

i remember in a dfw audio reading of Consider the Lobster he used N.B. but then went off cue and said "the editor wants me to tell you this means nota bene means by the way but it means note well" and I lolled because not only was this in a footnote, he had just added another footnote to it in the audio version!

welp when i saw them they weren't doing anything apart from sitting in chairs or having carers helping them around like in surreal old folks homes...I think most of the stories about how they got in there position were given to the staff from psychs and parents so we'll probably never know

hmmm it appears i misread you, i didnt realize these people were being taken care of, i thought you visited them and saw them under the influence of something

but i must echo what coxswain said re: what marijuana does and does not do and i really question whether or not they were all lying to you

interestingly enough the only time i ever approached pot-induced brain damage like these guys is when i smoked a blunt by myself and too fast and tobacco (or the nicotine in the tobacco???) made me feel like my skull was on fire. and that's legal!

I don't want to have a debate about DFW

YA BETTERN OT im way gay for him as he started me back on my path of reading shit again.

in the aftermath of his suicide many articles mentioning his almost crippling depression make reference to his later heavy drug use at college which as near as I can tell came much later than his early bouts of depression

the question that rises then though is can a high school student really get crippling depression when he knows he's going to college etc and he has no relationship trouble? I think he did what I did which was whenever bad shit would happen I would think

A FEW YEARS TILL ESCAPE.

but yeah too many drug users are really bad off and I have to wonder if drugs is just the expression of this or if it doesn't have something to do with it. I know I felt pretty self-disgusted when I was drinking heavily. at least there though it was because I had a tumor pushing on my lungs and could not fall asleep because breathing was slowly getting harder. still the most of it was thought escape!

I hope we can talk about this somewhat maturely btw because I think there's way too much tendency to overreact and be like "no all drugs are good if you take them slow" or "drugs...will ruin you!" and while I'm not saying there's a middle ground I am not sure you can responsibly smoke a crack rock or that if you enjoy the feelings of some drug you wouldn't just go ahead and do it way too much anyway! similarly I think we can all agree that every attempt to legislate drugs has been really awful and that if there was some type of body governing drug use, people who had a high risk of a broken head would not be snorting angel dust.

idk I think in recent years I've been leaning more anti-drug than pro but I also don't touch most of the stuff so I'm not qualified at all. I just kind of don't like being as out of control as drugs tend to make you. it's why I hated surgery, not being awake.

guys i wanna get into opiates
someone give me tips on opiates(not heroin)

can i go buy some tylenol 1's and take like 12 of htem and get high?

i dunno some people i know like oxy and fentanyl should i do thopse

guys i wanna get into opiates
someone give me tips on opiates(not heroin)

can i go buy some tylenol 1's and take like 12 of htem and get high?

i dunno some people i know like oxy and fentanyl should i do thopse

why do you care if they're heroin or not?

well...its heroin o_o;

guys i wanna get into opiates
someone give me tips on opiates(not heroin)

can i go buy some tylenol 1's and take like 12 of htem and get high?

i dunno some people i know like oxy and fentanyl should i do thopse

are you stupid

well...its heroin o_o;

well they're oxy's!

at least with heroin you get to bang that shit straight into your veins which has got to feel good

(story: a formerly heroin-addicted (now, on a healthier level, just addicted to anything) friend of mine claims he came in his pants the first time he shot up)

why one would want to "get into" a dangerous and terribly addicting set of drugs without the real RIDE bewilders me. i'd actually recommend heroin over taking oxycontins because depending on your circles you're much more likely to run across them (or methadones or hydro's or roxi's or whatever else) and thus much more likely to take them. the best drugs to try imho are the ones where you know you'll never be able to get them again.