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I have never tried drugs. Some people I know do them (and quite a bit) but I'm a little to vain to put my body in any kind of danger that it didn't have to be in.

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Closest I got to a drug was smoking a cigarette. It burned my throat and lungs and I was coughing for about two minutes. I know most people say it isn't as bad when you get use to it, but who would be dumb enough in the first place to TRY and get used to it?
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JJ you're an idiot for taking those pills. Never take anything if you don't know what it is and what it does. Doing things like that is one of the reasons drug use has a bad name.
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this is completely false, in fact lsd leaves your system a lot faster than most drugs, what you have is called hppd, hallucinogen persisting perception disorder. its a psychological disorder caused by hallucinogenic drug usage. it is actually temporary, but how long it lasts varies per person, and i believe for it to go away all drug use must be stopped: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder

well ive stopped smoking pot for several months and it didnt go away, and if i had to stop smoking pot longer than that well looks like ill have it for a while. good thing it only happens on occasion, and with bright lights on dark back drops.
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I've never touched any alchohol, or drugs or anything. It's half because of religious beliefs and half my own personal belief that drugs mess with how you think. And that's just iffy for me.
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Does anyone else from the UK (or any other country that one can buy opiates over-the-counter) get funny looks when buying multiple boxes of painkillers (like Nurofen Plus or Solphadeine) for purposes of extracting codeine for warm fuzzy pleasure? I've never been stopped from buying them and legally I'm allowed to so long as I don't buy over a certain amount of pills, but I can't help thinking that the pharmacist knows I'm abusing them. I go to multiple chemists and sometimes I buy some antiseptic mouthwash along with the drugs so they can maybe assume they're for bad toothache.

I don't do this often though so I won't say I'm addicted (yet), which is probably a good thing as I already crave tobacco and MDMA a lot.


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Has anyone bought any of the 'legal highs' or 'herbal highs' you can get off sites like http://www.everyonedoesit.com?

Are they any good?
I used to get given some every week or so. The ones that I smoked didn't really do much for me except for a couple which made me feel slightly relaxed for a couple of minutes, but that could've been a placebo effect so I'm not at all sure.
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I've never touched any alchohol, or drugs or anything. It's half because of religious beliefs and half my own personal belief that drugs mess with how you think. And that's just iffy for me.

Same with me, its really hard to find other people with the same views. Most kids my age are always talking about how cool it is to do those things.
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I have never tried drugs. Some people I know do them (and quite a bit) but I'm a little to vain to put my body in any kind of danger that it didn't have to be in.
There are vanity drugs related to certain subcultures.
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Ok so I did magic mushrooms twice, and it's really pretty fucking awesome.
The second time I had sort of an euphoric feeling with just the normal dose, I'm wondering (as a question to the experience shroom users) what does a higher dosis exactly do in terms of things you see, for example: whenever I close my eyes doing shrooms I see patterns and always start asking questions about everything I see, especially about myself, both my trips were "a journey into my subconscious" (it's really difficult for me to explain, but I felt as if I'm actually two people, me (my conscious) and my subconscious who 'lended my a hand' into his world), but I've never visited Egyptian temples or saw two objects morph into eachother.
Also, what are cool things to do while on shrooms?
All I've done was lie in my room with a friend listening to Goa trance (which was fucking awesome anyway).
This weekend I'm doing it again with 4 friends, any suggestions?
Also, what about tea? I've only eaten through chocolate, never the shrooms itself, so I was wondering if I'd put it in tea, will the effect not be as strong or be longer but milder or something?
Thanks in advance!


PS: I'm undergoing a serious change in my life (probably height of puberty, seeing as I'm a 15 year old dutch boy (yes, the shop owner isn't even supposed to sell me all of this, but I look older than 16 so (also, before anyone will start ranting or anything: I'm pretty smart, I've done a lot of research on basically everything I attempt doing, and I've set clear boundaries concerning drugs and I'm surprised at how well I keep those barriers there, even though there's enough tempting situations)), social aspects, skillwise, and a hunger for information, I have definitely changed a lot, and those shrooms have helped a little bit to not keep my head only on the scientific side of life, but also on the more spiritual side.
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Ok so I did magic mushrooms twice, and it's really pretty fucking awesome.
The second time I had sort of an euphoric feeling with just the normal dose, I'm wondering (as a question to the experience shroom users) what does a higher dosis exactly do in terms of things you see, for example: whenever I close my eyes doing shrooms I see patterns and always start asking questions about everything I see, especially about myself, both my trips were "a journey into my subconcious" (it's really difficult for me to explain, but I felt as if I'm actually two people, me (my conscious) and my subconscious who 'lended my a hand' into his world), but I've never visited egyptian temples or saw two objects morph into eachother.
Also, what are cool things to do while on shrooms?
All I've done was lie in my room with a friend listening to Goa trance (which was fucking awesome anyway).
This weekend I'm doing it again with 4 friends, any suggestions?
Also, what about thea? I've only eaten through chocolate, never the shrooms itself, so I was wondering if I'd put it in thea, will the effect not be as strong or be longer but milder or something?
Thanks in advance!


PS: I'm undergoing a serious change in my life, social aspects, skillwise, and a hunger for information, I have definately changed a lot, and those shrooms have helped a little bit to not keep my head only on the scientific side of life, but also on the more spiritual side.

Higher doses will lead to more profound effects, but not necessarily new ones. The term psychedelic means just what you could probably tell my looking at it--that is, MIND MANIFESTING. Each trip varies extremely depending on the individual. Rarely do full-blown hallucinations occur on mushrooms. Try going for a walk, listening to music you wouldn't normally listen to, paint, draw, et cetera. What is thea?
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Higher doses will lead to more profound effects, but not necessarily new ones. The term psychedelic means just what you could probably tell my looking at it--that is, MIND MANIFESTING. Each trip varies extremely depending on the individual. Rarely do full-blown hallucinations occur on mushrooms. Try going for a walk, listening to music you wouldn't normally listen to, paint, draw, et cetera. What is thea?

Oh how embarrassing, I meant tea.

Alright, thanks.
I've also found that I can't really control what I see by focusing a lot on it (I friend recommended doing that, because he said he could vaguely control), but I do really feel that the atmosphere of a certain song really does have a big impact, for example if I'd put on Massive Attack's Teardrop, usually I'd feel quite relaxed and a little bit happy, whereas when I played it during my second trip I had a great feeling which I can't really describe (which leads me to another question: do you guys actually try and explain your trip to other people? And if so, do you usually succeed, even if it's kinda vaguely? Because I have a really hard time doing that).
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Oh how embarrassing, I meant tea.

Alright, thanks.
I've also found that I can't really control what I see by focusing a lot on it (I friend recommended doing that, because he said he could vaguely control), but I do really feel that the atmosphere of a certain song really does have a big impact, for example if I'd put on Massive Attack's Teardrop, usually I'd feel quite relaxed and a little bit happy, whereas when I played it during my second trip I had a great feeling which I can't really describe (which leads me to another question: do you guys actually try and explain your trip to other people? And if so, do you usually succeed, even if it's kinda vaguely? Because I have a really hard time doing that).

Oh, yes it can be ingested in tea. There may be slight differences in the timing involved in the trip, but not else will change in regards to potency. I frequently have conversations with my friends about my psychedelic trips. It's difficult to explain sometimes, but that is a given. Experience can only be explained in reference to other experience (ie. you cannot explain the colour green to anyone. You cannot explain what it feels to be sad. These things are fundamental and cannot be broken down any further. At least not unless you relate it to other events of experiences which you think that person may identify with).
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I'm contemplating taking lsd, but I'm not sure on how I will react. Of course, nobody here will know how I will react either and my best chance to find out is to actually do it, but I just don't know if I'm mentally stable enough to handle something like that for that amount of time. Of course, I've taken brownies before which lasted for about 8 hours and that was weird. Although I'm sure lsd gets you higher than any brownies will. But. I just don't know. Something just bothers me a lot and I've become apathetic because of it. Day in and out it eats away at me and I just come to the same conclusion everyday - don't bother. One of my friends who's taken lsd, doc and shrooms said that he's had things he's had problems with and has come to terms with it on acid. My main concern is that I'll be thinking about this event while I'm on acid and it will upset me and cause me to have a bad trip for hours on end and I don't want that to happen. I did a little experiment to see if I could feel anything from what's bothering me and I did think about it enough and decided to let go of bottling it in for about a few minutes before I just turned apathetic again. Which is weird in itself, but who knows, maybe I'm crazy. Just sometimes I wake up and feel depressed and later in the day I'm ok, and this last for a few days. I haven't noticed this in a few months, and it just started happening today so more than likely it won't happen again now that I'm conscious of it, especially since I'm less vulnerable to depression when I'm active and I've been stuck at my house the last couple of days. anyway. I'm just not sure if I should take it or not. I definitely want to take lsd and play guitar to see how that is, but if I were to think about the event that's bothering me when I'm playing guitar (since it's a sort of fucked up inspiration) I just don't know if it would make me see horrible shit. But, if I'm already apathetic of it, would lsd bring it out? or what? I dunno. Give me some words here.
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JJ ... wow ... I hope you're trying to be funny.

It's surprising how many people truly are oblivious to the fact that YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DRINK WHILE TAKING PILLS EVER!

I could kinda get into why, but I'm sure someone here could explain it much better than I could.

Anyways, I've never done any drugs besides shrooms and weed.  I drink of course, though.  And I'm currently trying to cut back or quit smoking altogether, but I did/do (whatever) smoke cigs too.  Shrooms is freakin sweet, I encourage anyone to try it.  I won't do any synthetic/man-made drugs.  I only trust all natural stuff.  Weed.... well, it'd be great if I didn't live in the USA when it comes to that.  It's been criminalized to the point that it truly is a sincere bitch trying to live a productive life while using it regularly (like, at least once a day).  Prices are so ridiculous where I live.  Even for dirt shit weed.
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I'm contemplating taking lsd, but I'm not sure on how I will react. Of course, nobody here will know how I will react either and my best chance to find out is to actually do it, but I just don't know if I'm mentally stable enough to handle something like that for that amount of time. Of course, I've taken brownies before which lasted for about 8 hours and that was weird. Although I'm sure lsd gets you higher than any brownies will. But. I just don't know. Something just bothers me a lot and I've become apathetic because of it. Day in and out it eats away at me and I just come to the same conclusion everyday - don't bother. One of my friends who's taken lsd, doc and shrooms said that he's had things he's had problems with and has come to terms with it on acid. My main concern is that I'll be thinking about this event while I'm on acid and it will upset me and cause me to have a bad trip for hours on end and I don't want that to happen. I did a little experiment to see if I could feel anything from what's bothering me and I did think about it enough and decided to let go of bottling it in for about a few minutes before I just turned apathetic again. Which is weird in itself, but who knows, maybe I'm crazy. Just sometimes I wake up and feel depressed and later in the day I'm ok, and this last for a few days. I haven't noticed this in a few months, and it just started happening today so more than likely it won't happen again now that I'm conscious of it, especially since I'm less vulnerable to depression when I'm active and I've been stuck at my house the last couple of days. anyway. I'm just not sure if I should take it or not. I definitely want to take lsd and play guitar to see how that is, but if I were to think about the event that's bothering me when I'm playing guitar (since it's a sort of fucked up inspiration) I just don't know if it would make me see horrible shit. But, if I'm already apathetic of it, would lsd bring it out? or what? I dunno. Give me some words here.

Here's my take on this:

Never expect a drug to solve all your psychological problems. If you think you are unstable, then avoid taking psychedelics until you can get into a better state of mind or if you still really feel you should experiment then do so under the watchful eye of a sober sitter. What psychedelics can do is open your mind (hence "expand your mind") to different perspectives of things. Sometimes that means much happier perspectives and other times it means terrifying ones. Sometimes it is a painful process to dive into your psyche and you will experience terrible things (such as my own trip), but in the end become closer to resolving your problems.
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Are you afraid you will be thrown into jail when the drug police reads this topic?
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I'm contemplating taking lsd, but I'm not sure on how I will react. Of course, nobody here will know how I will react either and my best chance to find out is to actually do it, but I just don't know if I'm mentally stable enough to handle something like that for that amount of time. Of course, I've taken brownies before which lasted for about 8 hours and that was weird. Although I'm sure lsd gets you higher than any brownies will. But. I just don't know. Something just bothers me a lot and I've become apathetic because of it. Day in and out it eats away at me and I just come to the same conclusion everyday - don't bother. One of my friends who's taken lsd, doc and shrooms said that he's had things he's had problems with and has come to terms with it on acid. My main concern is that I'll be thinking about this event while I'm on acid and it will upset me and cause me to have a bad trip for hours on end and I don't want that to happen. I did a little experiment to see if I could feel anything from what's bothering me and I did think about it enough and decided to let go of bottling it in for about a few minutes before I just turned apathetic again. Which is weird in itself, but who knows, maybe I'm crazy. Just sometimes I wake up and feel depressed and later in the day I'm ok, and this last for a few days. I haven't noticed this in a few months, and it just started happening today so more than likely it won't happen again now that I'm conscious of it, especially since I'm less vulnerable to depression when I'm active and I've been stuck at my house the last couple of days. anyway. I'm just not sure if I should take it or not. I definitely want to take lsd and play guitar to see how that is, but if I were to think about the event that's bothering me when I'm playing guitar (since it's a sort of fucked up inspiration) I just don't know if it would make me see horrible shit. But, if I'm already apathetic of it, would lsd bring it out? or what? I dunno. Give me some words here.

its not hard to have a bad trip on acid, im glad you know of this. if you have a bad day, or youre pissed at something, or you just cant get a depressing thought out of your head, you shouldnt take it. acid is best used doing something you enjoy, so you can see aspects of it youve never seen/heard/thought of before. LSD wont give you anything extra, but it will help you to realize what you already have U_U


if you still decide to take LSD, remember to start out with a low dose. better to take too less than too much.

Are you afraid you will be thrown into jail when the drug police reads this topic?

no, because they don't go after the users, they go after the suppliers.
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no, because they don't go after the users, they go after the suppliers.

Basically. They aren't out looking to catch an average toker. They are actively seeking the mass distributors. I've even been let go underage with alcohol and holding a joint before.
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Even so, I have never smoked a cigarette, or had Alcohol. GO FIGURE!

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whats the best way to smoke weed in your opinion. for me its personally been a pipe, but main preference is a joint. the only problem for me is that I need 20% more weed to make a joint rather than have a bowl in a pipe to share amongst friends.
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holy shit.

whats the best way to smoke weed in your opinion. for me its personally been a pipe, but main preference is a joint. the only problem for me is that I need 20% more weed to make a joint rather than have a bowl in a pipe to share amongst friends.

Haha, yeah that WAS true. Since starting this topic, I have taken up both drinking and smoking, and I have used Xanax, Codeine, and Cocaine. Funnily enough, these are all things that I have said/posted that I would NEVER EVER EVER do, lol.


Anyway, the best way to smoke weed depends on your goals, of course. If you just want to get high with your friends then it just does not matter because you are going to have a good time any way to toke: joints, blunts, spliffs, pipes, bongs, vapes, whatever.

If you are by yourself and you just want to get straight fucked then the best way is to use a vaporizer. If that is too expensive, the next best way to get crunked is a gravity bong/waterfall followed by a standard bong.
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