I really don't see the point in any of you getting so high and mighty just because of my opinion. Which I am fairly entitled to. I don't care to read other peoples experiences, because I've had enough of my own to form my own judgment.

All I was doing was saying what I thought.

I really don't see the point in any of you getting so high and mighty just because of my opinion.

Drugs are for no hopers who don't want to achieve anything in life.

I can see you have a robust experience of presenting your opinions. Don't expect people to not be very upset when some random person calls their group for no hopers or something equally insulting. The problem is also that, you know, people who are open about drug use get this shit all the time. It's insulting every single time and it really does upset me, because that opinion is a) shared by 90% of the population that has no experience with drugs or drug users and b) it is extremely uninformed and generalized.

Maybe you have experience to say why you know that drugs are for no hopers, but remember again that most people I know that know nothing about drug culture, drug use or drugs themselves express it the exact same way you did. The people I do know that are anti-drugs but have valid knowledge about either or all of those three I mentioned tend to express themselves very different. We're all assuming you know nothing about them (and with good reason), and we're all expecting you to show what knowledge you do have. Instead, you're telling us that we're overreacting after you pretty much called us a bunch of losers for no apparent reason at all in a thread dedicated to safe drug use for recreational and spiritual reasons. In no part of the topic have we discussed drug use without being precautionary about the use, or expressed that the drug should/would be used for either a) GETTING FUCKED UP or b) escaping reality.

Your opinion as  it came out has the typical traits of a close-minded individual who has a strong but uninformed opinion on the matter and yet chose to come into a peaceful thread mainly about making something potentially dangerous a healthy and widening experience.

So tell us, please, how do you justify this? What are your reasons? What do you know?


If you are just frustrated, then please just stay away. If you're angry on THE LOUSY WEED SMOKERS at your high school for being more interesting for the girl of your dreams then stay away. If you actually do have something, then please display it. Because so far you have done nothing but harrasing a group of people on an internet forum that takes this stuff very seriously. Which is also called trolling.

Yes I'm not saying none of us are, I was saying this thread is mostly about safe use for recreational and spiritual/mind-expanding reasons.

Okay.

I agree in saying I was too general in my post.

I just don't agree with excessive use of drugs and I do realise that what I said could be taken the wrong way because I didn't say enough to clarify what I said... That and I kind of wanted to get a reaction.

But I just believe that Drugs in general are a waste of life. Only because of events/experiences that have been through drugs.

You still aren't really providing any strong justification for your beliefs.
Why? And on what basis do you determine the excessiveness of use?

Such as? Do you believe all drugs should then be lumped together and treated simply as 'drugs' and without any discrimination between them? Do you throw out any positive experiences that have occurred as the result of drug use?

Please, expand.

I don't want to further provoke anyone else here.

I've had my fair share of drugs in my time, and I guess at the time of doing them they are fun and all that. But drugs in my opinion are a way of escapism. I've met people who have done drugs throughout their entire life and they are so spaced out from reality that its scary just to be around them. Lumping all drugs together is too general of me, and I do believe that in moderation drugs can be okay. But I don't believe that continuously being high/stoned for a greater part of your life, such as people here have said they do is not healthy.

I speak of excessiveness of use as I remember less than a year ago having to take my friend to the hospital when he overdosed on ecstasy. All my friend had had that night was one pill.

I didn't intend to start a massive argument or to troll, and I know my post was a little ignorant. But those are just my views.

OK I'd like to share a story.

I bought an eighth of weed at a party two weeks ago and the two weeks following I was house-sitting... so I was blazing ALL the time because I'd just have people over and they'd be like "Hey! Let's blaze!"
At the end of the two weeks I was so freaking sick of marijuana... and I only had a little bit left so I decided to just use the rest of it to get rid of it.
Well, while smoking it I realized there was a lot more than I thought.
I just decided to lay low and go on the computer. I created a system so I could eat from a bag of chips, drink some diet pepsi (yuck), type, laugh, and wipe my fingers on a towel (to get rid of chip residue). ... It was really difficult ok.

Anyway here's the weird thing:
I was so incredibly stoned I ACTUALLY thought I was going to die if I went to sleep. I thought I would be the first (OK maybe second) person to die from a marijuana overdose. Even though I really didn't have THAT much (two decent-sized pipe bowls)

In addition to that, I kept getting VERY strange sensations. See, I usually sit like a freak. Often when I'm sitting in my computer chair I sit on my knees. At this time, if I lifted my butt off of my knees slightly, flexing my "quads" or w/e the hell they're called, I was almost having orgasms from my knees!! WTF!?

Later when I was like "OK I'll probably die in my sleep but w/e I'm tired..." I went to bed. I slept on my stomach. Here's another very peculiar occurrence: I could feel a sensation in the front of my brain reverberating that was DIRECTLY connected to this reverberating almost-orgasmic feeling on the bottom of my penis head.

...

OK I'd like to share a story.

I bought an eighth of weed at a party two weeks ago and the two weeks following I was house-sitting... so I was blazing ALL the time because I'd just have people over and they'd be like "Hey! Let's blaze!"
At the end of the two weeks I was so freaking sick of marijuana... and I only had a little bit left so I decided to just use the rest of it to get rid of it.
Well, while smoking it I realized there was a lot more than I thought.
I just decided to lay low and go on the computer. I created a system so I could eat from a bag of chips, drink some diet pepsi (yuck), type, laugh, and wipe my fingers on a towel (to get rid of chip residue). ... It was really difficult ok.

Anyway here's the weird thing:
I was so incredibly stoned I ACTUALLY thought I was going to die if I went to sleep. I thought I would be the first (OK maybe second) person to die from a marijuana overdose. Even though I really didn't have THAT much (two decent-sized pipe bowls)

In addition to that, I kept getting VERY strange sensations. See, I usually sit like a freak. Often when I'm sitting in my computer chair I sit on my knees. At this time, if I lifted my butt off of my knees slightly, flexing my "quads" or w/e the hell they're called, I was almost having orgasms from my knees!! WTF!?

Later when I was like "OK I'll probably die in my sleep but w/e I'm tired..." I went to bed. I slept on my stomach. Here's another very peculiar occurrence: I could feel a sensation in the front of my brain reverberating that was DIRECTLY connected to this reverberating almost-orgasmic feeling on the bottom of my penis head.

...

lmao what the fuck...

i've never felt i was going to die from weed, only situations where i felt i was tripping on more than weed (like maybe it was laced with pcp), and definitely never orgasmic sensations.  maybe you should sleep on your back...

because saying that and then not giving any reasons why is helpful.