Topic: The Legend Of Zelda: The Phantom Hourglass (Read 5821 times)

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you're just avoiding it because they could be bad.

Well, there's a lot of stuff coming out right now that I know, 100% for certain, will be fun and will have good controls.  I'll just buy *those* instead.  I don't have time to play half the games coming out that I really want to try, so there's no reason to take a risk on something like this that I might not like.  My experiences have been identical to TANG'D (what ws your name before anyway?  I forget :( :( ), so I'm skeptical that a game like this can control well at all.  Especially since, you know, the person starting this topic says that they suck.
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Metroid Prime Hunters had great controls if you used the thumb strap attachment.

Also by 'toothpick stylus' I hope you are referring to the old DS. The DS lite stylus isn't nearly as bad (although still not perfect).
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Nope, DS lite. Like I said I have big hands so maybe you just don't or something. I also didn't get a thumb strap attatchment with my copy of Hunters so I don't know anything about that?
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this is nuts why would they do this.

like, shadowtext is dumb as hell; saying JESUS I DONT WANT TO PAY A GAME WITH A FUCKING MAGNADRAW INTERFACE isn't a dumb crit at all and you'd think more people would have said "uh let's reconsider this guys".
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you know the only problem i see with the stylus control is the fact that you use it to make link walk.  like, if they left everything the way it was but made you use the d-pad to control him i think that would have been better.  then again i haven't actually played it yet but based on my experiences with animal crossing ds it's much easier to walk with the d-pad and use the stylus for everything else.

oh well we'll see in a few days!
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If you are telling me you write with toothpick pens then you are an idiot. The stylus is not comfortable to hold, period. It's tiny, thin, short and with a big clunky rounded end. What the fuck was the idea of that?

Also Shadowtext is an idiot but we knew that already.
That wasn't really directed at you, more directed at the fact everyone seems to be giving the response of "omg using a pen-like object is ridiculous", considering we've been growing up with that for the last 10-20 years. But sure, it's ..possible and pretty easy to write with a 'toothpick' pen (although the stylus is more a slim version of an Argos pen).

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The game was designed to only work on the DS.  It wouldn't work on any other system.  And sure, maybe stylus control wouldn't work in a lot of other zelda games, but it works in this one.  It makes it a lot more fun, IMO.  Sure, I still like button control for some games, but this game was designed with stylus control in mind.  Nothing beats the freedom of tapping on the screen madly while sailing to launch bombs everywhere.
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That wasn't really directed at you, more directed at the fact everyone seems to be giving the response of "omg using a pen-like object is ridiculous", considering we've been growing up with that for the last 10-20 years. But sure, it's ..possible and pretty easy to write with a 'toothpick' pen (although the stylus is more a slim version of an Argos pen).

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you dont get pissed off using argos pens? man
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The game was designed to only work on the DS.  It wouldn't work on any other system.  And sure, maybe stylus control wouldn't work in a lot of other zelda games, but it works in this one.  It makes it a lot more fun, IMO.  Sure, I still like button control for some games, but this game was designed with stylus control in mind.  Nothing beats the freedom of tapping on the screen madly while sailing to launch bombs everywhere.

And that's the thing, because the game was designed around the stylus from the beginning as opposed to the stylus being shoehorned to an existing design.  Though admittedly, I do have problems initiating "rolling" (something about making circular motions at the edge of the screen, unless I read it wrong) but everything else works perfectly for the most part.
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Nyko is this cool 3rd party developer of gizmos and I found a pack from them (cheap too, 10 american quid) that contains two stylus' and a hand rope thing.  One of the stylus' is average sized and the other one is MEGA SIZED like a real pen but the point is super fine so you still have precision pointing.  I recommend it because having a real pen in your hands feels a lot nicer.

They also make other cool accessories like a wireless wii sensor (OH GOD YES), rechargable batteries + recharger pack for the 360 controller, and ps1 controller-esque hand grips for the DS and PSP.
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I understand your guys scepticism, but you really ought to play the game before you judge. From what I've heard, and a little hands-on time, the game plays quite well. As has already been pointed out, this is due to the game being designed specifically for the stylus. It doesn't feel tacked on or gimicky due to this fact. LoZ:PH is a genuinly good game.
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Jesus

I was emulating it but I got to the sixth floor of the hourglass castle where you need to shut your ds to copy the map, and because it is being emulated I can't get past it. So gay :(​!!
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Hey!  Modern day piracy test yes!  I hope future developers do things like make you read manuals or... dip pieces of paper in water to continue and shit!

(p.s. if anyone laughed at that reference, please go outside)
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Mayor did you use the new iDeaS 1.0.1.9 Beta?
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so i was over at my brother's house earlier haloing, and i realized he had a ds lying around and seeing this topic prompted me to scope it out.  i dicked around using the stylus for about ten minutes and my hand felt fine!  not that it doesn't hurt you guys' hands obviously, but just saying, it might not be as bad as all that.  i still wouldn't want to play a game exclusively with the stylus, especially not a fucking adventure game, but i'd be surprised if it was really all that awkward, or if it actually caused crippling hand cramps.
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No I'm using no$gba 2.4f

The new iDeaS plays it perfectly it just crashes when u try to save lolz.
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so i was over at my brother's house earlier haloing, and i realized he had a ds lying around and seeing this topic prompted me to scope it out.  i dicked around using the stylus for about ten minutes and my hand felt fine!  not that it doesn't hurt you guys' hands obviously, but just saying, it might not be as bad as all that.  i still wouldn't want to play a game exclusively with the stylus, especially not a fucking adventure game, but i'd be surprised if it was really all that awkward, or if it actually caused crippling hand cramps.
Using it for 10 minutes and using it for as long as I use it when I get a new game (all day) aren't the same, sorry.

It's not like it INSTANTLY BREAKS YOUR HAND or anything, but it's like the Wiimote where it just does hurt if you use it all day. LOL GO OUTSIDE THEN LOL but I should be able to play a new game all day if I want to is all I'm saying.
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that was in response to this:

"Man, don't even give them that much leeway.  Using the stylus for too long is uncomfortable PERIOD.  Even just playing one game of sudoku on Brain Age makes my hands hurt the rest of the day, and I have some of the smallest hands ever."

which made me think that using the stylus for any period of time beyond a few seconds would cause instant cramping or some crazy shit.  besides, doing anything like that would start to hurt/cramp if you did it ALL DAY.  but who the hell sits around playing their ds for 10-12 hours in a row?  maybe you do and that is fine, but i'm just saying from WHAT I DID i could see it being reasonably comfortable if you only played for a few hours in a row, which is far from all day and probably about as much as most people play a handheld system without stopping.
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Hey!  Modern day piracy test yes!  I hope future developers do things like make you read manuals or... dip pieces of paper in water to continue and shit!

(p.s. if anyone laughed at that reference, please go outside)

I got the first one but not the second. :(