Topic: Street Fighter IV - 5 more days... (Read 44817 times)

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Yeah the game looks much more like Street Fighter in 3D and less like Street Fighter With Bump Mapping. 

But still no Dan it's time for a petition.
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Big news from the 4th Loketest going on right now:
-Ryu & Ken's faces have been redone
-Revenge guage is on the bottom now
-The gauge's all look different
-Character portraits at the top
-Vega (Claw) confirmed
-M. Bison (Dictator) confirmed
-New Character: Rufus confirmed
-The 4 Kings (Balrog, Vega, Dictator, Sagat) are all playable, as are Rufus.
-Claw's claw...magically changes position. Yay.
-El Fuerte is fucking fast.
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-They've added a contents shop where you can buy wallpapers, and new colors for your character. As of right now, everything costs about 1 zeni. There's also something about "stamps", but I don't quite understand it yet.
-You can really customize your character. You can choose your main color, sub-color, you can choose which action they'll do when they taunt, and you can set which win quote they'll say at the victory screen (pre-set choices, you can't enter in a personal one).
-If you're part of a guild, the guild name and picture will appear with your name, battle points, W/L record, and comments on the VS screen.
-As was said, a few faces and details have been cleaned up. Ryu/Ken/Chun look A LOT better, and more like the familiar faces we've come to know. A few more details have been added, like a white smoke/energy trail following a shoryuken (my explanation sucks, but it looks good, honestly).
-The Revenge/Ultra meter has dropped to the bottom of the screen, besides the super meter. The super meter is now partitioned to see how many EX moves you have (a full bar is 4 EX moves). At the top where the Revenge meter used to be now there's the character portrait. I think this is a pretty good idea, seeing as how the character's name disappears if someone's using a network card.
-It seems like a few of the 2P colors have changed. Ryu is now dark blue/navy with the yellow headband. Ken is white (Daigo Ken!).
-YES, at least two new stages. One is an outdoor industrial stage, sort of snowy, with people watching in the background. I think this is a Russian stage (Zangief?). Another...hard to describe, but the two fighters fight in a lower area while people up top cheer them on. It feels sort of like a cross betweem the poolside stage from Tekken 5, and Ken's stage from A3. In Guile's stage, we didn't see any planes flying overhead anymore, but we did notice the planes on the ground had a lot more detail and color. Though I didn't see it personally, Adverse reports that in Chun-Li's stage, there's an old guy riding a bike - if a character hits a big move, the old guy will fall off the bike, and get up sort of cursing the fighters.
-It looks like some of the on-screen prompts have been jazzed up, like the "Ultra Combo Finish" text. Also, the win icons will reflect what kind of win you got - normal, super, ultra, perfect, etc.
-YES, the "Four Kings" (Shitennou) are in it and playable.
-Did not see too much of Balrog. Didn't seem too different. His ultra is like a beefed-up version of his punch-rush super, but with the uppercuts. It seems to be able to tag people in the air and juggle them for damage.
-Vega is reminiscent of ST. Once he gets in close, life becomes very, very bad. The claw magically switches sides as Vega does. J.FP has insane range and good priority. His ultra is a souped-up version of the wall lunge move - I saw it hit and I saw it miss plenty.
-Sagat - C.FP is no longer the Evil Bringer of Retribution it used to be. Now, it's just a normal move. Seriously lacks pokes. However, Tiger Uppercut = too good. Regular version is one or two hits, and EX is Alpha-style multi-hit. Tiger fireballs, while gorgeous, seem to be a bit slower than before (no O.Sagat fireball traps). Tiger knee is fast, covers good ground, and doesn't seem to have any recovery. His ultra is an incredible version of the Tiger Genocide - after launching the opponent with the Tiger Uppercut, he lets them fall into a HUGE version of the Tiger Uppercut. Players today seemed to be hitting his ultra a lot. After playing him a few times, I thought he was kinda dependant on being defensive. However, we talked to one of the best Japanese players there, who said that Sagat was strong. He then racked up a few wins with impressive usage of SA. Quite a few people were using Sagat today.
-Bison. Some of Bison's animations are just incredible. He looks closest to his CvS2 incarnation. Slide and scissors kicks get out of recovery before the opponent gets out of blockstun. On the flipside, it looked like it was really easy to stuff the scissors kicks. Teleport is WAY fast. Psycho crusher doesn't really seem that good. Ultra is scissors kicks into psycho crusher - did not actually see anyone land it. Adverse says that it can possibly be used for anti-air. Quite a few people today used Bison as well. Don't hold me to this, but it kinda looks like his face is scarred.
-El-Fuerte - Holy crap, this guy is on crack and then some. Has a forward and backwards run. Has a move where he runs at the opponent, jumps up into the air, and then does a frog-splash on the opponent. There's another version where he will perform a command throw on the way down. Has a good anti-air move where he kick-jumps into the air, and if he catches the opponent, he slams them down with a neck-breaker/hurricarana (?). Has a wall-jump that seems to cover a lot of range, and he might have an air throw. Reno used him a lot today, but we sort of felt that he was lacking. We're sort of waiting for the Japanese players to break him wide open tomorrow though.
-Rufus....yeah. Sort of like Bob from Tekken 6, or imagine Chang with Choi's moves or something. Saw him very, very rarely today. Right now he's almost like the Dan of this game, but again, I'm waiting to see if Japanese players break him open tomorrow.
Last Edit: April 11, 2008, 05:55:47 pm by handsome lamb
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Oh God oh God oh God...

FUCKING VEGA?!?!

Alright, NOW I'm hyped up!
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Amazing update. Bison, Vega, Rufus.. And all sorts of great tweaks.

This game is going to be damn fantastic!
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Still no Dan! This is getting ridiculous!
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Dan will come.

Dan will fucking come....
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Dan will come.

Dan will fucking come....

I am going to make a petition.
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Bison comes back for SF4 after being fucking killed by Akuma and not only killed but his soul destoryed by the raging demon. Give me a break.
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Bison comes back for SF4 after being fucking killed by Akuma and not only killed but his soul destoryed by the raging demon. Give me a break.

At the very least, what until you know the backstory.
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what the hell you have against Bison? quit frontin, hater.
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Bison comes back for SF4 after being fucking killed by Akuma and not only killed but his soul destoryed by the raging demon. Give me a break.

I said this earlier and maybe you don't get it but probably 2 people actually give a shit about fighting game stories. You're 1 of them. I know the stories but to even say they are close to good is quite laughable. If you want a story that won't get raped go play an RPG.

Street Fighter as it is (and like, every fighter out there) has already been raped with retcons and the like. How Sagat got his scar on his chest? Retconned. Final Fighter's year it took place? Retconned. Fight Final and Street Fighter being related? Changed. There's too much dumb shit.


I bet this'll be some really horrible cliche explaination, like it's a robotic being with bison's thoughts (obviously possible since Q exists not too long later), or it's a time warp, or it's a clone, or maybe they will retcon Bison's death.

It's also important to note that some things don't need souls to survive. Q most likely doesn't have a soul (he's....a robot thing). It could also be retconned to where Bison realized how to beat the Shun Goku Satsu, and cleared his mind and soul of all impure thoughts for a short time, enough to narrowly survive.


There is like 6,000 generic fighting game cliches they can use to explain this.

NOW SEE I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO OF SAID THE ABOVE YOU SHOULD OF JUST DID THIS (WHICH I AM GOING TO DO NOW) :

Bison. FUCK YEAH!

Now for some good olde Bison quotes:
*This is delicious!
*Yeah, I killed your father, so what? I killed my father too and you don't see me complaining about it!
*For you the day Bison graced your village was the greatest day of your life, but for me....it was Tuesday.
*(To Guile) "Do you wish to join him in death too?" (or something like that. He says it to Guile in SF4 apparentally)
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I think I liked Street Fighter's story before they were trying to explain it in sequels and stuff and it consisted entirely of racial stereotypes making vague comments to each other a brutal fistfight.
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I think I liked Street Fighter's story before they were trying to explain it in sequels and stuff and it consisted entirely of racial stereotypes making vague comments to each other a brutal fistfight.


Just to make sure you're not saying before it consisted entirely of racial stereotypes right?

Because that never happened, even Street Fighter 1 was racial stereotypes.
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Just to make sure you're not saying before it consisted entirely of racial stereotypes right?

Because that never happened, even Street Fighter 1 was racial stereotypes.

No what I mean was that in Street Fighter 2 (I don't think SF1 counts as a video game) your only insight into the story was that FAT JAPANESE SUMO GUY would say something rude to AMERICAN NINJA GUY after the battle.  As a kid I found the vauge, amorphous story fairly interesting as I would make up my own stuff based on that.  Now that they actually *try* to explain the story, I think it's a lot worse.
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Uh, how is SF1 not a videogame?

You play it on an arcade cabinet. With a stick. And buttons. And you punch the shit out of each other (sometimes in 2 player combat too).

Only differences between it and SF2 are that the 6 buttons from SF2 are replaced by a pressure-sensitive pad and you couldn't select your character (player 1 was Ryu by Default and 2 was Ken (or P1 and P2 as they were known then).
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Uh, how is SF1 not a videogame?

You play it on an arcade cabinet. With a stick. And buttons. And you punch the shit out of each other (sometimes in 2 player combat too).

Only differences between it and SF2 are that the 6 buttons from SF2 are replaced by a pressure-sensitive pad and you couldn't select your character (player 1 was Ryu by Default and 2 was Ken (or P1 and P2 as they were known then).

Though they changed this in a later release of SF1 to be what it is in SF2.


And there was still racial stereotypes in that too.


And actually there was a story in SF2, they explained it in the manual and stuff. That's how they've always told the story, endings of chars + win quotes of chars + manuals.
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Uh, how is SF1 not a videogame?

It was a bad joke.  I said that because it wasn't that exceptional of a game, especially compared to Street Fighter.  When people think about classic SF, they almost never thing of SF1 and rather think of SF2.
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Meet Rufus:
http://capcom-town.es/2008/04/12/4%C2%AA-location-test-de-street-fighter-iv-cambios-y-mejoras/



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That is by far the weirdest design I have EVER seen for a chubby character.

EDIT: Haha, look at him go. He reminds me of a pudgy clown. http://youtube.com/watch?v=7Ljf8DK2gP4
I still think his design is pretty "WTF" but he looks like he'd be pretty fun to try out.

EDIT 2: El Fuerte seems pretty badass! http://youtube.com/watch?v=EbewQKWf-Xs

I am anxiously awaiting for Vega and Bison videos to surface.
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there's no reason to play anyone but rufus.
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