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Killface

#1121 January 30, 2008, 09:16:47 pm

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I had a horrible, horrible theory:
What if ROB is just a character for Japan. If you think about it, he's better known there. So, why wouldn't they replace him with a better known character for the other countries?
It might make sense...

Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 09:19:36 pm by Killface

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General Robert E. Lee

#1122 January 30, 2008, 09:18:25 pm

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Quote from: Killface on January 30, 2008, 09:16:47 pm

I had a horrible, horrible theory:
What if ROB is just a character for Japan. If you think about it, he's better known there. So, why wouldn't they replace him with a better known character for the other countries?
It might make sense...

Because the versions of the games have to be the same so they can play against each other online.

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HL

#1123 January 30, 2008, 09:19:01 pm

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Quote from: Killface on January 30, 2008, 09:16:47 pm

I had a horrible, horrible theory:
What if ROB is just a character for Japan. If you think about it, he's better known there. So, why wouldn't they replace him with a better known character for the other countries?
It might make sense...

Why would ROB be more popular in Japan.

there was only 2 supported games for him in both countries...also its a fighting game...so no.

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Killface

#1124 January 30, 2008, 09:21:41 pm

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Quote from: Man-O-War on January 30, 2008, 09:18:25 pm

Because the versions of the games have to be the same so they can play against each other online.

I didn't think about that one. Tousche'

Quote from: handsome lamb on January 30, 2008, 09:19:01 pm

Why would ROB be more popular in Japan.

there was only 2 supported games for him in both countries...also its a fighting game...so no.

I thought ROB was only in Japan.
My mistake.

Nintendo... What happened?
Edit: Damn. I was way the hell off. Damn you, ROB.

Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 09:25:47 pm by Killface

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HL

#1125 January 30, 2008, 09:25:11 pm

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Quote from: Killface on January 30, 2008, 09:21:41 pm

I didn't think about that one. Tousche'
I thought ROB was only in Japan.
My mistake.

Nintendo... What happened?

no, i don't know how you could think that unless you are really young, its a pretty widely known fact that R.O.B. (Famicon Robot in japan) helped get the NES into stores in America in '85.

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Vellfire

#1126 January 30, 2008, 09:31:29 pm

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I know a used/retro game store that has a R.O.B. holding their business cards. It's pretty awesome.

That sentence seemed too weird with just the name in spoilers so I put the whole thing in there.

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Killface

#1127 January 30, 2008, 09:38:01 pm

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I'm from the Sega Genesis era. I never knew about any 'ROB' until recently. (Star Fox 2 boss.)

At least I learned something today. *The more you know*

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#1128 January 30, 2008, 10:21:35 pm

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God... I've yet to watch all the vids, (thanks a ton guys!) but I really am disappointed. Falco was totally unnecessary as a clone, and now there's WOLF? And Ganondorf better not be a clone of Falcon. Also, Ness! ARGH. I understand putting everyone's favorite character in, but at least give them a good moveset or something! I don't care about Lucario, because he replaced Mewtwo, so that's fine. But... Damn. This game is still awesome and all, but they should've realized no one likes new character models with old moves tacked on. Especially because there are SO MANY AWESOME CHARACTERS that could replace these clones. K. Rool, Krystal (I don't especially like HER, but she's got an energy-shooting staff, which would make for a very original moveset), etc etc. Damn damn damn.

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#1129 January 30, 2008, 11:42:24 pm

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/168825.html?playlist=featured

metal gear solid stage, featuring sonic, snake, ddd, and metaknight... all non spoiler! huzzah!
and snakes FS in action.

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#1130 January 31, 2008, 12:29:01 am

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Quote from: handsome lamb on January 30, 2008, 09:12:07 pm

I agree, it can be rather confusing sometimes, but only rarely, especially if you get 2 super fast guys i just lose track of whats happening.

The best thing to do is play a game with ONLY pokeballs and set the frequency to max.

There was one game in melee where every legendary pokemon was on the playing field and the game's frame rate instantly dropped to like... 5 frames a second.

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#1131 January 31, 2008, 12:35:18 am

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Quote from: angry black man on January 31, 2008, 12:29:01 am

The best thing to do is play a game with ONLY pokeballs and set the frequency to max.

There was one game in melee where every legendary pokemon was on the playing field and the game's frame rate instantly dropped to like... 5 frames a second.

Doing the blackhole glitch and mass throwing things into it til the game crashes is pretty good too

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#1132 January 31, 2008, 12:49:30 am

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Quote from: Cheesy Doritos on January 30, 2008, 10:21:35 pm

God... I've yet to watch all the vids, (thanks a ton guys!) but I really am disappointed. Falco was totally unnecessary as a clone, and now there's WOLF? And Ganondorf better not be a clone of Falcon. Also, Ness! ARGH. I understand putting everyone's favorite character in, but at least give them a good moveset or something! I don't care about Lucario, because he replaced Mewtwo, so that's fine. But... Damn. This game is still awesome and all, but they should've realized no one likes new character models with old moves tacked on. Especially because there are SO MANY AWESOME CHARACTERS that could replace these clones. K. Rool, Krystal (I don't especially like HER, but she's got an energy-shooting staff, which would make for a very original moveset), etc etc. Damn damn damn.

He is right.
They definitely should have changed their movesets. Or at least their final smashes. All of them are exactly the same. They are all tanks. It would be awesome if one of them was a starship or something else. I thought they were taking out clones.

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#1133 January 31, 2008, 01:10:59 am

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boo

topic does not deliver

anyway, i would much rather have krystal than wolf. at least krystal would have an original moveset and i don't feel like playing yet another fox clone.

i know the developers will never read this but i would just like to give them a mega thumbs-up because this game looks so fucking polished it's unbelievable

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HL

#1134 January 31, 2008, 01:45:27 am

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ZSS CAN BE PLAYED BY HOLDING R WOOOOO

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Sarhan

#1135 January 31, 2008, 01:49:33 am

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Quote from: angry black man on January 31, 2008, 12:29:01 am

The best thing to do is play a game with ONLY pokeballs and set the frequency to max.

There was one game in melee where every legendary pokemon was on the playing field and the game's frame rate instantly dropped to like... 5 frames a second.

I used to do that too. Or using only land mines in SSB64 at Hyrule temple where they blend in really well. Good times.

Quote from: handsome lamb on January 31, 2008, 01:45:27 am

ZSS CAN BE PLAYED BY HOLDING R WOOOOO

I just found that out too. Glad they didn't waste a character by not giving players that option.

As for Wolf, he actually isn't that much of a clone from what I've seen. Some of his moves are similar but his up smash and side B look very different from the blurry vid I saw. His FS may be the same though, but I haven't seen that yet. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6uRcUADi8)

All in all, there are really only 3-4 clones, which isn't that bad when you consider the size of the roster.

Last Edit: January 31, 2008, 02:01:33 am by Sarhan

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weesman88

#1136 January 31, 2008, 01:51:04 am

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It would be so much better with Krystal. She would probably be a fast character. She would hit people with a cane. She would shoot stuff out of the cane. It would be completely different. Playing with fox is basically playing with falco and wolf.

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#1137 January 31, 2008, 01:55:45 am

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Quote from: handsome lamb on January 31, 2008, 01:45:27 am

ZSS CAN BE PLAYED BY HOLDING R WOOOOO

whats zss ??

I wish Brawl central came back i got to know if wolf or krystal or whomever the last character is, wasnt there supposed to be 3 3rd parties? Snake, Sonic , ???

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#1138 January 31, 2008, 01:58:35 am

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Quote from: Wyrm on January 31, 2008, 01:55:45 am

whats zss ??

I wish Brawl central came back i got to know if wolf or krystal or whomever the last character is, wasnt there supposed to be 3 3rd parties? Snake, Sonic , ???

Zero Suit Samus..

and no. Sakurai just said there would be UP TO 3 3rd party guys...and I still have no clue where people got that Sakurai said there would be no clones, he never said that..

Also:

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Cheesy Doritos

#1139 January 31, 2008, 01:58:41 am

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Well, I'm not that upset anymore! Falco and Wolf both have some different A moves, stats, and each has AT LEAST one different B move! Cool. Still clone-like, but better than exact replicas. Ness and Lucas probably have extremely similar B moves, but their normal attacks and smashes seem pretty different. Hopefully they'll at least have different B's / side-B's. (Remember, Lucas's doesn't move down, but straight.) Ganondorf is slower, and might not actually be a clone at all. And, finally, Toon Link is pretty different. I just don't like that Toon Link and I guess Ganondorf look so different. Everyone is beautifully animated and polished, and then there are two cel-shaded characters. Just kind of messes up the balance, I think. I do think Krystal would have been better, but... Eh. I knew all along, obviously, that Zamus would be playable without a FS from the begining, but I was hoping that you could select her from the screen as you could Zelda or Sheik or any of the PT's pokemon. Maybe it's at the end of Samus' color changes and no one has checked yet...? I guess that'd be unrealistic, though. I wonder what the button is for when you're not using the Gamecube controller.

Just to get another discussion going, which controllers will you guys be using? Obviously the GC will be the most HARDCORE or whatever, but I think I might main using the Wiimote sideways. With the grips, it's insanely comfortable.

EDIT: Goddamnit DN put a hide tag on that! I didn't want to know the entire roster, ugh.

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#1140 January 31, 2008, 02:01:38 am

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Quote from: Cheesy Doritos on January 31, 2008, 01:58:41 am

Well, I'm not that upset anymore! Falco and Wolf both have some different A moves, stats, and each has AT LEAST one different B move! Cool. Still clone-like, but better than exact replicas. Ness and Lucas probably have extremely similar B moves, but their normal attacks and smashes seem pretty different. Hopefully they'll at least have different B's / side-B's. (Remember, Lucas's doesn't move down, but straight.) Ganondorf is slower, and might not actually be a clone at all. And, finally, Toon Link is pretty different. I just don't like that Toon Link and I guess Ganondorf look so different. Everyone is beautifully animated and polished, and then there are two cel-shaded characters. Just kind of messes up the balance, I think. I do think Krystal would have been better, but... Eh. I knew all along, obviously, that Zamus would be playable without a FS from the begining, but I was hoping that you could select her from the screen as you could Zelda or Sheik or any of the PT's pokemon. Maybe it's at the end of Samus' color changes and no one has checked yet...? I guess that'd be unrealistic, though. I wonder what the button is for when you're not using the Gamecube controller.

EDIT: Goddamnit DN put a hide tag on that! I didn't want to know the entire roster, ugh.

Too bad bucko! Spoiling your ass...heh.

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