News Boy, 15, gets 60 years for StL County sex attack of girl, 6 (Read 4197 times)

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http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/A5E1FF8453EF5C2586257394005C3087?OpenDocument

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This is just... terrible. The justice system no longer functions it seems! "An eye for an eye"? Fuck that shit, this is equivilent to "An arm and a leg for a fingernail"
Their jailing of this kid would have been reasonable if the sentence was a few years AT MOST yet they sentenced him for SIXTY FUCKING YEARS.
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are you saying that

if you rape and abuse a person he will smile and laugh and thank you afterwards
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Given the nature of his crime I find it difficult to care.
I mean, it's not just the kidnapping, physical and sexual assault, but his attitude towards it ("she MADE me do it.")
He's clearly a danger to society, although sentencing him like an adult may be somewhat excessive. On the other hand, he IS 15, so he isn't exactly going to develop empathy in what, 3 years or so.

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He can rot for an eternity for all I care. Kidnapped, raped and abused a 6 year old? No compassion from me.
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are you saying that

if you rape and abuse a person he will smile and laugh and thank you afterwards

no

I am just saying that sixty years is TOO MUCH
Given the nature of his crime I find it difficult to care.
I mean, it's not just the kidnapping, physical and sexual assault, but his attitude towards it ("she MADE me do it.")
He's clearly a danger to society, although sentencing him like an adult may be somewhat excessive. On the other hand, he IS 15, so he isn't exactly going to develop empathy in what, 3 years or so.
The kid needs a straightjacket, not a sixty year old sentence in jail.



EDIT: JUST FYI, I do not sympathise with the kid that raped the girl. I think that what he did was bad and he deserved a punishment but(I will say it again) SIXTY YEARS IS TOO MUCH FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 03:09:04 pm by fatty
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fatty you are a horrible person i hope you get kidnapped and raped
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well, we cant kill him, and putting him in a sanitarium is too much freedom for someone who would do this

so yeah what else could we do? a sanitarium is easy to fake your way out of (unless you are ACTUALLY CRAZY but this kid is obviously just evil and cruel rather than obviously crazy) so yeah hed be back and probably kidnapping again if we go that route.
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Hmm, poor kid, if he lived in Holland he would get like 2/4 months x0.
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no

I am just saying that sixty years is TOO MUCHThe kid needs a straightjacket, not a sixty year old sentence in jail.



EDIT: JUST FYI, I do not sympathise with the kid that raped the girl. I think that what he did was bad and he deserved a punishment but(I will say it again) SIXTY YEARS IS TOO MUCH FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Yeah, keep crying about the 15 year old.
I mean, seriously, the girl is SIX years old, the boy is FIFTEEN. If he doesn't know better at 15 then he's not going to know better at, say, 18. If they gave him LIFE I wouldn't have any sympathy for him. He deserves EVERY. FUCKING. YEAR. of his sentence. There is NO reason whatsoever why his sentence should be lightened.

Just for fun, let's see what this kid inflicted to get this OH SO HARSH PUNISHMENT:
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From her hospital bed at St. Louis Children's Hospital two days after the assault, the victim picked out Burnett from a school yearbook picture. She had half an ear torn off, a lascerated liver, a skull fracture and bruises from the top of her head to her thighs.
 
    She told police she couldn't walk after the attack. She crawled through a hole in a fence near railroad tracks but could go no further and, as night descended in woods near her house, she tried to cover herself with leaves. A police officer found her the next morning after a massive neighborhood search.
He should rot in hell and you should go there with him for suggesting his sentence was too harsh. You don't do this shit to a fucking 6 year old (or to anyone, for that matter). You're probably thinking he's not going to have much of a life because of what he did to her. Good, because she may not either.
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 03:50:23 pm by Zeratul

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wasn't the boy 13 when he did it?
I don't mean to say he shouldn't be punished, but it's like seeing a 8 year old rape a 6 year old and give him prison foir life.
although people can be way different from eachother at 13
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wasn't the boy 13 when he did it?
I don't mean to say he shouldn't be punished, but it's like seeing a 8 year old rape a 6 year old and give him prison foir life.
although people can be way different from eachother at 13
OK, I'll admit to that oversight.
Still, 2 years later he shows absolutely no remorse and even claims that she made him do it.
Not to mention he didn't just rape her (which would have been bad enough), he physically assaulted her to a large extent (as I pointed out in my previous point).

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How do you know that he's showing no remorse? And how do you know that he's not just making shitty excuses because he's not mature enough to take full responsibility for his actions?

Honestly it is fucking unnerving reading some of these posts. Granted that it's a shitty crime but holy shit we are talking 60 years. Are we supposed to completely rule out rehabilitation simply because he's a rapist?
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 04:12:03 pm by Drule
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All I know is what I read in the story.

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Testimony this morning disclosed that Burnett had blamed, in part, the 6-year-old for his own misfortune and had denied any sexual assaults in a recent interview with a state employee, even though he had pleaded guilty on Aug. 10 of sodomy and attempted rape, along with child kidnapping and assault.

Seems to me blaming the victim demonstrates a lack of remorse.

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Seems to me like my post still applies. You're making assumptions about his character based on nothing.
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All I've said about his character is:
1) He committed a pretty horrific crime.
2) He lacks remorse.
3) Based on this, he deserves whatever he gets.

I make my assumptions based on the article says, since I'm not about to fly out to St Louis, peer over court records, and interview the parties involved. Tough if you don't like my conclusions, but I don't think I'm being irrational by any means.

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I am going to be honest with you, I did not really read the article that well because my mind was set on "Holyshit, sixty years sentence is too much for this!"... but then again the other kid suffered greatly, so I guess he can be punished... but how? If he's crazy, then a sanatorium would indeed be an easy way out, just like Jester said. If they put him in jail for sixty years, they might aswell give him life in prison because he will most likely die there anyway.


I must admit, I am an idiot, but so are you Zeratul.  I pointed it out for you. I do not feel pity for the kid nor do I feel sad that he is sentenced like that but that doesn't mean that sixty years is an over-the-top sentence to begin with. I already regret making this topic because people like you think that this is one of those "*LINK*. DISCUSS." topics where trolls like yourself can come in here and start flamewars.


CONCLUSION: This is a fucked up issue in every way you look at it. I rest my case as I do not know what else to say about this issue anymore.


Also, kudos to Drule for not posting crap like the most of you have been doing so far.
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 04:40:46 pm by fatty
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I didn't flame anyone. I stated my opinions on the topic being discussed. I thought that's what forums were for.

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well, we cant kill him, and putting him in a sanitarium is too much freedom for someone who would do this

so yeah what else could we do? a sanitarium is easy to fake your way out of (unless you are ACTUALLY CRAZY but this kid is obviously just evil and cruel rather than obviously crazy) so yeah hed be back and probably kidnapping again if we go that route.

But don't people in sanitariums get ECT and take mind controlling drugs every day?
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The thing that I find bizarre about this, is that actual pedophiles (those who actually above the age of 18), who do not confess to their crimes, and who do such terrible things (save the beatings, I assume) on many different occasions, don't get nearly as much time as a single (albeit extreme) offense on the part of a 13 year old.  He gets 60 years in jail for one particularly vicious crime, perpertrated as a minor, and other, full grown adults who do similar things, to a lesser degree but on different occasions, can wind up with less than 10 years in jail (in fact, sometimes it is less than 2 years).  It's just a little extreme of a punishment.  Then again, let the punishment fit the crime, I suppose...
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