News Boy, 15, gets 60 years for StL County sex attack of girl, 6 (Read 4197 times)

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How do you know that he's showing no remorse? And how do you know that he's not just making shitty excuses because he's not mature enough to take full responsibility for his actions?

I know i made up some pretty shitty excuses for things I did when I was 13.
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This is just... terrible. The justice system no longer functions it seems! "An eye for an eye"? Fuck that shit, this is equivilent to "An arm and a leg for a fingernail"[/b].

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kidnapping, beating and sexually assaulting

Shut the fuck up fatty. You don't know how bad he messed the girl's head up by doing this. Don't you dare compare 60 years of an offender to the life of an innocent victim.
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 05:53:06 pm by Chainer
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I'd say put him in a federal prison for 5 to 10 years and let the inmates have their way with his tight ass, see how he likes it.
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Well.. that was his life.  By the time he gets out, he will probably kill himself.
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Well.. that was his life.  By the time he gets out, he will probably kill himself.

Good.

He raped and nearly beat to death a 6 year old girl when he was 13; when I was 13 I was just figuring out that my dick did something magical if I rubbed it long enough.

I'm glad he got 60 years. He is obviously a danger to the community and an asshole to boot. I could MAYBE understand if it was just the sexual abuse; when you're 13 you might have the excuse of not realizing what a godawful thing that is, but the severe (nearly fatal by the sounds of it) beating AND the sexual assault AND the fact that he said she had it coming AND the fact that he wasn't bawling his little eyes out when he was sentenced to 60 years of jail time makes me think he is completely messed up.

Fuck this guy. I think Ayolark brought up a good point though; there should be much more serious punishments for paedophilia, especially repeat offenders.
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60 years is too long for any juvenile. we don't know anything about his environment: how the kid was raised, why hed do something like this, etc. there is a reason there are protections for children in the system, because children aren't just born with fucked up values in their heads. sure, the report tells us he feels no remorse, so obviously he's been fucked up somehow.

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the mere fact that this guy is so fucked up should not merit the response "LOCK HIM UP FOREVER" but "HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAPPEN TO A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD?". locking this kid up for 60 years puts a band aid on a festering wound. psychoanalyze this fuck and figure out what is wrong.

i am not saying he should be slapped on the wrist, this kid needs severe mental help and needs A LOT of time in a prison system. i'm not one to decide how long. but 60 years is not worth taxpayer's money. and it wastes another life.
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 07:33:07 pm by wilikeh
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Good.

He raped and nearly beat to death a 6 year old girl when he was 13; when I was 13 I was just figuring out that my dick did something magical if I rubbed it long enough.

I'm glad he got 60 years. He is obviously a danger to the community and an asshole to boot. I could MAYBE understand if it was just the sexual abuse; when you're 13 you might have the excuse of not realizing what a godawful thing that is, but the severe (nearly fatal by the sounds of it) beating AND the sexual assault AND the fact that he said she had it coming AND the fact that he wasn't bawling his little eyes out when he was sentenced to 60 years of jail time makes me think he is completely messed up.

Fuck this guy.
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Yeah, I'm in agreeance with the 60 years is too long thing. I do think that there is no excuse for what he did and he should be punished, regardless of why he did it... but this is his entire life. Do you want to pay for something you did for your entire life? I think he should go through some serious psychological testing, and be forced to pay for what he did meanwhile... but not for 60 years.

Once again, I don't wish to stand up for this kid because he performed a truly monsterous act. I just don't get 60 years. That will do absolutely nothing for him. And then what, when he's 75 he will be released with no money, no friends, no job experience, no chance of anything good ever happening for him. He will still be paying for his entire life.
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How about we "LOCK HIM UP FOREVER" AND psychoanalyze the little bastard.

That being said, I think he got what he deserved. There is NO excuse for what he did.
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Also (I assume someone will post between this and my last post, if not, sorry for double posting)

Rapists and murderers don't even get this long. Paedophiles don't even get this long. How can you justify treating an immature, senseless child worse than you would someone who consciously does this EXACT SAME SHIT knowing FULL WELL how terrible it is.
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Shut the fuck up fatty. You don't know how bad he messed the girl's head up by doing this. Don't you dare compare 60 years of an offender to the life of an innocent victim.
Read all of my posts on this topic first.
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He raped and nearly beat to death a 6 year old girl when he was 13; when I was 13 I was just figuring out that my dick did something magical if I rubbed it long enough.

I'm glad he got 60 years. He is obviously a danger to the community and an asshole to boot. I could MAYBE understand if it was just the sexual abuse; when you're 13 you might have the excuse of not realizing what a godawful thing that is, but the severe (nearly fatal by the sounds of it) beating AND the sexual assault AND the fact that he said she had it coming AND the fact that he wasn't bawling his little eyes out when he was sentenced to 60 years of jail time makes me think he is completely messed up.

Fuck this guy. I think Ayolark brought up a good point though; there should be much more serious punishments for paedophilia, especially repeat offenders.
How do you know that he's showing no remorse? And how do you know that he's not just making shitty excuses because he's not mature enough to take full responsibility for his actions?

Honestly it is fucking unnerving reading some of these posts. Granted that it's a shitty crime but holy shit we are talking 60 years. Are we supposed to completely rule out rehabilitation simply because he's a rapist?
These are the two posts I agree most with so far, by the way.


I just can't stress this enough, THIS IS NOT A TOPIC TO SYMPATHISE FOR THE RAPIST!
The real issue here is wether or not the justice system is fucked up because they sentence a kid for sixty years while they let real pedophiles go after a decade(maybe a year or two more) AT MOST.

Tell me this: In what way do you think this is just and fair?
Why sentence a might-become-pedophile currently-being-fucked-up kid like that and yet don't AT LEAST do the same for adults that commit the same crime? Men that beat their wives, parents abusing their children, child molesters, they all get away, one way or another. Those people should get AT LEAST LIFE IN JAIL if this kid has to serve a sixty year sentence. Hell, just go ahead and arrest them in advance if that's how you want it!
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 08:15:46 pm by fatty
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I'm not about to fly out to St Louis, peer over court records, and interview the parties involved. Tough if you don't like my conclusions, but I don't think I'm being irrational by any means.
Then don't make any remarks. It doesn't serve any purpose at all other than contributing to the monstrous image everyone are giving him in order to justify their rabid posts. He's just a kid, and there's no good reason to lock him up for 60 years.
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Part of me feels like they're going to suddenly just say "JUST KIDDING" after he serves a normal amount of time and let him go.  Making him think he has to spend the rest of his life in jail would probably give him a pretty damn good reality check.
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These are the two posts I agree most with so far, by the way.

Have you seen kaempfer's first sentence? I think it's totally the opposite to what you were saying.

edit: i mean this one:

"I'm glad he got 60 years. He is obviously a danger to the community and an asshole to boot. "
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Then don't make any remarks.
I'm not going to remain silent just because you don't like what I have to say. The fact of the matter is that the subject was brought up and all I did was express an opinion on the subject which you didn't like. I don't care whether you agree with what I have to say, and I don't think that it's important to begin with. I'm entitled to state my opinion and I resent the implication that if I don't express a whiny boo-hoo sentiment towards the boy's sentence for his crime then my opinion has no right to be expressed.
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I don't think it's fair that he was sentenced to sixty years, but at the same time I have a hard time giving a damn.
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well, we cant kill him, and putting him in a sanitarium is too much freedom for someone who would do this

so yeah what else could we do? a sanitarium is easy to fake your way out of (unless you are ACTUALLY CRAZY but this kid is obviously just evil and cruel rather than obviously crazy) so yeah hed be back and probably kidnapping again if we go that route.

Its generally not easy to fake your way out of a sanitarium, especially for someone who's being locked up at 15. Also, given the nature of his crime, he would be locked up in a secure forensic medical facility that's essentially a maximum security prison for crazy people that doesn't focus on rehabilitation.

In any case, people sentenced to mental facilities are typically locked up longer than they would be if they were sent to prison.

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Why sentence a might-become-pedophile currently-being-fucked-up kid like that and yet don't AT LEAST do the same for adults that commit the same crime?

Alright, I'm sorry to be rude, but:
What  do you mean "might-become-pedophile"? You keep referencing "real pedophiles" and things like that, but he sodomized a six year old... He's already there buddy.
Frankly, I hope this is the beginning of a movement to harsher sentencing for pedophiles, child molesters and abusers in general.
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Honestly it is fucking unnerving reading some of these posts. Granted that it's a shitty crime but holy shit we are talking 60 years. Are we supposed to completely rule out rehabilitation simply because he's a rapist?
Yeah, I agree with this. The kid did something terrible, and he should be punished for what he did, but we need to take several things into account here:

- He was 13 when he committed the crime.
- He's a human being.

Being put in jail for 60 years is sort of ridiculous, in any rape case. Mass murderers and torturers are the ones who should be getting that kind of jail time. We're talking about a 15 year old kid who didn't kill anyone here. He's going to be 75 when he leaves prison. Do you think that this is, in any way, fair, even to someone who beat and raped a girl? And let's not forget that because he's so young, his chance of rehabilitation is bigger than usual.

But what baffles me most is that some child rapists get a couple of years in jail while this kid got 60. You can deny this all you want, but cases like this one really show how imbalanced and arbitrary the U.S. justice system is.
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Yeah, I agree with this. The kid did something terrible, and he should be punished for what he did, but we need to take several things into account here:

- He was 13 when he committed the crime.
- He's a human being.

Being put in jail for 60 years is sort of ridiculous, in any rape case. Mass murderers and torturers are the ones who should be getting that kind of jail time. We're talking about a 15 year old kid who didn't kill anyone here. He's going to be 75 when he leaves prison. Do you think that this is, in any way, fair, even to someone who beat and raped a girl? And let's not forget that because he's so young, his chance of rehabilitation is bigger than usual.

But what baffles me most is that some child rapists get a couple of years in jail while this kid got 60. You can deny this all you want, but cases like this one really show how imbalanced and arbitrary the U.S. justice system is.
This post wins this topic. Apparently some people cannot understand the reasoning behind it and think that I am SYMPATHIZING A PEDOPHILE because I think
SIXTY YEARS IS TOO MUCH FOR THIS.

Fuck. I'm done with this topic.
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