Jesusland.

[joke] If something like this goes through I will seriously be suing the North American Union government- I want the money I spent on immigration back! [/joke]

In all seriousness, I just spent the last hour or so doing internet research of the North American Union and the proposition that has all the conspiracy theorists up in arms. If you look hard enough you can even find bits and pieces of the proposition and notes from the summits. And I have to tell you that, based on my reading, The whole idea of the three governments secretly plotting to form a single super-continental power has to be one of the funniest things I've come across in a long time.

The biggest problem that all the conspiracy theorists have is the fact that there isn't enough transparency with the Security and Prosperity Agreement. I'll agree- if the government is going to enter into a tri-lateral agreement with other countries they should, at least, give the people the common courtesy of a shout-out. You know, something like: "Hey, us three gubments here gonna work together and shit."

The SPP doesn't appear to have anything to do with creating a North American Union. It seems to be just an enhanced type NAFTA that focuses on the US, Canada and Mexico working together to keep all of its citizens safe, healthy and happy. It talks of promoting inter-agency cooperation and deals with normalization of things such as food safety, immigration tactics and trade rules. It all sounds wonderful, you know. Three governments, working together for a brighter and more prosperous future.

Of course, if we use NAFTA as a reference, we all know exactly what the SPP will do: Next to nothing.

Reason being??? Whiny little bitches who complain about national identity. The idea that the government from another country would have a say in what goes into your mouth and who lives in your neighbourhoods is frightening to most. And, as far as I'm concerned, it should be frightening.

But let's get something clear here: The SPP isn't trying to abolish the three separate countries on the continent. It looks like it's trying promote the three governments and their corresponding agencies to work better together which, let's face it, NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

From what I took out of my readings of the SPP it seems to focus mostly on trade. Free trade between the countries and equal competitiveness in all workplaces. This is basically a pipe dream but it looks pretty on paper. In the end, almost everything in the SPP deals with trade and money. Opening up restrictions on border crossings, easing trading problems... again, it's all nice enough when it's on paper but things actually have to get done.

Long of the short, I think people who see the NAU as something that's in the works right now are taking WAY too much out of the SPP and, thusly, they need to chill the hell out. I also think that the SPP, if implemented properly, could be a very good thing. I completely support the idea of free trade as long as all the partners in said trade are obligated to follow all of the same rules all of the time.

Also, that Amero. It's been proven to be fake:
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=8

world war one started by making alliances like these......

The idea of NA unifying into one whole nation is just too stupid to imagine imo.

As trendy as it is to attack the Bush administration and everything, I would like to point out that the US economy is NOT failing, thanks. Maybe next time you should try to find some data to support your claims instead of, you know, just jumping on the Republican-hate bandwagon.

Mister Jeff, you're my hero.

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Thank you for that enlightening post.

FUCK YES OH MY GOD

That is so fucking metal

I will simply hope this doesn't happen because I'm not joining up with America!

yea lmao fuck them

ps using Lou Dobbs in any argument involving Mexican people automatically voids you of any credibility

You have got to be kidding me.

why don't you say what you mean, bitch

I bet if you saw a mexican walking down your cul-de-sac towards your dad's four bedroom ranch you would call the police only to find that your step-mom (who you still call Bridget - that bitch isn't your mother!) had hired him to trim the hedges around your pool/jacuzzi.

why don't you say what you mean, bitch

I bet if you saw a mexican walking down your cul-de-sac towards your dad's four bedroom ranch you would call the police only to find that your step-mom (who you still call Bridget - that bitch isn't your mother!) had hired him to trim the hedges around your pool/jacuzzi.

You've got some serious racial issues, you know that?  Just because you hate Mexicans doesn't mean everyone else does too.

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I wrote: CANT READ GOOD because it's pretty clear that I think Mexico/ans is/are awesome.

You've got some serious racial issues, you know that?  Just because you hate Mexicans doesn't mean everyone else does too.

???

PandaBear hates Mexicans?  Did he post in another thread about them, because in this thread he hasn't said anything about hating them....

That seems like a big step in the wrong direction, if you ask me! Now, this is obviously bullshit, but why is everyone worried? They would have to hold several referendums to do this, and people would obviously vote against it in all three nations. The GOVERNMENT can't just unite two democratic countries like Canada and the USA without, you know, asking the demos.

Not that I am disagreeing that this is fake or anything, but Canada is a borderline socialist country and the US is a corporate federalist union. Neither specifically are democracies, they just happen to have democratic elements. I'm not completely knowledgeable about Canada, but if one of the major parties in the US was out to do something and it had sufficient control in the cabinet or the legislature, a democratic referendum would not be needed even on something this large.