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You kind of wonder what the news reaction would be if Obama was caught crying during a dinner party.

The crazy Obama fans (the same ones who denounced Clinton for using such a cheap and dirty tactic) would applaud Obama for having the courage to transcend the expectations of a patriarchal society and show emotion bear his soul. 
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The crazy Obama fans (the same ones who denounced Clinton for using such a cheap and dirty tactic) would applaud Obama for having the courage to transcend the expectations of a patriarchal society and show emotion bear his soul. 

absolutely. I'd say it wouldn't even be Obama fans saying it, but media as a whole. remember when Gore openmouth kissed his wife? it was a courageous move...

I don't see how I can win here, unless I get involved in a lengthy debate and you clearly aren't going to budge on anything, so I don't see the point. Like you said, I am too dumb/ignorant/full of bullshit to argue correctly anyway. I'm not admitting this sarcastically either, you are right. I am a propaganda-spreadin' idiot.

The contents of this post actually prove how dumb/unable to argue I am, right? Pretty cool, I'm doing your job FOR you!

why did you even post this.

ps this isn't a request for you to post more.
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Since there is a lot of anger here and I saw the phrase "knee-jerk rage" and I have been hearing some other comments around about the "Ron Paul supporter" accusations, I would like to point out that comparatively, GW is very calm when it comes to partisanship and the like. For instance, I don't hear a particular lot of McCain hate here even though he IS Republican and I also don't hear near as many attacks on Hilary, but if you go to places like MSNBC and look at the comments there you quite literally have a bunch of ignorant people form both sides of the fence senselessly attacking the candidates of the other side based almost solely on the simple fact they are of the other party.

Here at GW we at least have a good deal of intelligent argument and not just MCCAIN SUCKS BECAUSE HE IS REPUBLICAN or HILARY IS A WEAK WOMAN DEMOCRAT BITCH + no substance. Even Steel took the time to address specific things he doesn't like about McCain even though it would have been easy for him to go MAN MCCAIN SUCKS because GW is very leftist and many people would agree with him. So for those of you I see making the GW POLITICAL TOPICS ARE SHIT comments (not just in this topic), I would urge you to rethink your position.

Despite the fact I am a Republican, I have found much of the information in this topic valuable to my decisions in voting, and I am sure I will rely on the information that will be presented in the General Election topic that will be forthcoming after this.
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politico is the worst. every topic about obama literally has 300 people saying "can't.... vote... for muslim"
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I would also like to point out that the reason GW tends to talk about Ron Paul a bit is because he's such an unambiguously awful choice for President who had the most ridiculous campaign this election, complete with a blimp that flew with one side with a sign on it over South Carolina several months before the South Carolina primaries, while NH had theirs.

it's a very funny if irrelevant campaign that was a lot of fun to watch collapse.
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that and the fact that his supporters tend to generally deny reality and factual evidence
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maybe i'm not the best guy to bring this up, but no-one else has.

i don't like the way hilary clinton is getting treated in all of this. it seems to me that a lot of people are just focusing on attacking her personally and the amount of times i see words like bitch, cunt and other gross sexist insults get thrown at her makes me think a lot of it is to do with her being a woman. she gets a lot of flack for not being likable or relatable, or whatever, but really she isn't any worse than many of the other male candidates have been. she's not anywhere near as charasmatic as obama is, but she isn't some cold fish up on the stage.
I agree with this. It's not like Clinton is a terrible candidate. I once read a comment on Digg where someone called her "Hitlary". These people know nothing about politics and just like to hike a ride on what Omega calls the "reverse bandwagon".

Even though we got a new prime minister just last year, I wouldn't be surprised if the government continues to devote most of its time to blowing America's dick. So here's hoping that you guys don't fuck up!!
Hey man, what's going on in Australia, anyway? To me, right now Australia is that country that's trying to ban porn. And that's a democratic socialist party. Which is kind of amazing, seen as how such extremities are usually only employed by the conservatives.

[...] he is against universal health care
The U.S. health care system is in shambles and your country is the only one in the top 20 of the Human Development Index that does not have universal health care. Why'd you be against this? I'm asking not because I'm anxious to try and trample your argument but mostly because I'm interested in how one could possibly think that universal health care is bad. What's your argument, what makes the clock tick?
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While I think the sexism is disgusting, don't fool yourselves, just like her husband she is a terrible person and terrible candidate who will use scorched earth tactics to win at any cost.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/22/144315/700/681/462064

new today hooray for the clinton attack machine
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also I'm going to say this here:

HILLARY

HILLARY

I don't know how cutting the Ls down to one even happened but I see the other spelling so much I think I'm wrong sometimes!
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he's in favor of DADT, a policy that not only puts a great deal of psychological stress on our very courageous soldiers already in stress situations (imagine if you were in a war zone and if you got spotted with a boner because some hot chicks were taking a shower in front of you) but also dishonorably discharges anyone who is suspected of being gay, he attempted to pass legislation in Arizona to make same sex marriage illegal, he wants to include intelligent design in public education, and he changed his position on Roe vs. Wade in recent years in an attempt to pander to the religious right.

that's a lot of social policies influenced by religion!

not that this makes the actual policy any better but I believe the punishment for disclosing a homosexual orientation results in a general discharge, not a dishonorable

imagine if courts-martial were held for every gay person in the military; that'd be a huge waste of time and resources.

Edit:  Officer in Clinton motorcade killed in accident

man, that's pretty bad.  it really seems like things are falling apart on her end :/
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential campaign.

The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday. Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.

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not that this makes the actual policy any better but I believe the punishment for disclosing a homosexual orientation results in a general discharge, not a dishonorable

imagine if courts-martial were held for every gay person in the military; that'd be a huge waste of time and resources.

if you say you are gay before you are caught, you get a general discharge. if you get caught and never told anyone you were gay, you get a dishonorable discharge. of course, telling people you are gay means you can't serve anyways, so basically you can't be gay in the military. it's pretty awful.
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if you say you are gay before you are caught, you get a general discharge. if you get caught and never told anyone you were gay, you get a dishonorable discharge. of course, telling people you are gay means you can't serve anyways, so basically you can't be gay in the military. it's pretty awful.

i dont know about you but havin f*gs "protect me" makes me want to  :blarg:
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if you say you are gay before you are caught, you get a general discharge. if you get caught and never told anyone you were gay, you get a dishonorable discharge. of course, telling people you are gay means you can't serve anyways, so basically you can't be gay in the military. it's pretty awful.

i didn't know they gave out dishonorables for that kind of frivolous shit.  that's pretty bad!  of course, you'll get a general if you're too fat to do that last pushup, but an otherwise healthy person who is gay is just too much idk
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honestly, I think too many people are taking this election seriously to waste their vote on a protest candidate.

that and Ron Paul will take away some votes from the Republican candidate when he goes independent.
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plus i am willing to bet obama will beat mccain by like 10% or so (which is huge, considering LBJ was the last democratic candidate to get more than 50.1% of the vote)
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Whoah whaaaa? Man I hope that's not happening--I've not seen or heard anything about it to be honest. The exception is the banning of alcohol, drugs and porn in the Aboriginal communities, which has been talked about for a couple of years now. It should be noted though that the current party in power is pretty conservative, as is the PM. It's the first time they've run Australia in 10 years, after taking over from a party who were equally conservative (despite being called the Liberal Party of Australia).
So yeah I don't even know anymore man! And uh I really haven't heard anything abut banning porn except for the cases in the indigenous community at this stage.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/web-porn-filter-takes-biggest-hit/2008/02/16/1202760663247.html

Apparently they first made a porn filter. That didn't work. Despite developing it for $189 million, it was a complete failure. Only a handful of people downloaded the filter and it was bypassed by a 16 year old hacker in less than an hour.

So with that plan in the bin, now apparently they want to ban porn by default, which essentially means that everybody who wants to see porn will have to explicitly request the possibility to do so from his ISP.
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(despite being called the Liberal Party of Australia)
Well, remember that classical liberalism would now be considered conservatism.
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watch glenn beck compare liberalism (and barack obama!) to fascism.
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Liberal Fascism has been DESTROYED by almost every political blog. the dude is pretty much fucked up forever.
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