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For all of the Kucinich supporters: he'd like you to make Obama your second choice since he too is "a candidate of change."

Huckabee is nothing but laughable imo, he talks about ending negative ads to the press and then proceeds to show his own campaign's at the conference and compared his ignorance of the NIE report on Iran to gossip about Britney Spears. Even funnier than all of those though is when he said “Domestically, we need to protect our borders with Pakistanis coming into the country.” Does it get any better than this? :fogetbackflip:
Last Edit: January 02, 2008, 07:02:00 pm by Quest-Master
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Obama is probably the best option, I'm not a ridiculously HUGE FAN OH GOD HE IS AMAZING but he is definitely way better than all the other options.  Ron Paul, however, is the absoulte worst possible choice.  He's for guns and against pretty much everything else.  It ESPECIALLY bothers me that he's against things like the FDA.  People are pissed that the FDA keeps holding back all of these supposedly amazing drugs, but they'd be far more pissed if those drugs got through too easily and severely damaged or killed them.  He's also against stem cell research so I don't know what he's trying to do there.  He's against abortions, but he's also against gay adoption, so how about we keep on breeding those babies but deny a pretty large portion of possible parents from giving them homes.  He was also against a worldwide amber alert system, so fuck all you children.

The problem is that all the people I've met that are for him have no idea what his stances on various things are.  They have this image of him being THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT BANDIT coming to town to shake up the US!  Except by "shake up", it's more like shaking an Etch-A-Sketch and destroying everything.
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yeah, I've been leaning towards obama for a while now, mostly because he doesn't have the faults of the other people. hilary isn't as bad as I first thought, but I wouldn't want her to be president, much less the first female president.

we all hate ron paul, but he's so insignificant and such a small part of the 2008 election that it's kind of funny. the SPECTACLES you see on the internet and  in the windows of campus buildings etc might convince you otherwise, but the guy really doesn't matter! it's unfortunate that he can get people to support him and his shitty ideals with V for Vendetta clips etc but other than that he's just another dumb guy.
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Yeah, it's kind of hard to remember Ron Paul has basically no shot at winning, because it's the internet that's the most interested in him, so if you spend lots of time on the internet you never stop hearing people talk about him.
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This whole talk of Ron Paul and internet support got me thinking.  How many of you that are of legal age plan on voting in the primaries?  I would really like to, but unfortunately, I am currently registered as unaffiliated.
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This whole talk of Ron Paul and internet support got me thinking.  How many of you that are of legal age plan on voting in the primaries?  I would really like to, but unfortunately, I am currently registered as unaffiliated.
yeah I have no interest in even registering to vote until the cutoff for the real really (in ohio you have to register with the party to vote in their primary which is actually a good thing, but I just dont feel I fit the democrat or republican mold)

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This whole talk of Ron Paul and internet support got me thinking.  How many of you that are of legal age plan on voting in the primaries?  I would really like to, but unfortunately, I am currently registered as unaffiliated.

I would like to vote in the primary, but Pennsylvania doesn't hold theirs until the 22nd of April.  I have a feeling the candidates for both parties will be decided long before then. 
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Reading Digg, you'd think Ron Paul was landslides ahead of everybody.  I'd personally love to see him elected, but I don't think he has a shot. 

Guiliani is a snake, by the way.  If he or Huckabee are elected, I will be extremely pissed.

Oh yeah, I hate the American political election system, too.  The electoral college is extremely gay, not to mention bipartisanship.  The idea of democracy seems really cheap when it all comes down to a popularity contest between two figures.  :fogetshrug:
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I'm voting for Obama, although I have a feeling Hillary is going to be the one that gets the nomination.
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This whole talk of Ron Paul and internet support got me thinking.  How many of you that are of legal age plan on voting in the primaries?  I would really like to, but unfortunately, I am currently registered as unaffiliated.
I'll be 18 for the general election, but not the primaries.
I'm really hoping Obama wins, and I kind of wish Edwards would drop out even though he's an alright candidate, because he doesn't stand much of a chance of winning the nomination, but will take a great deal of support from Obama.  On another note, Ron Paul will probably manage to place in the double digits when the voting happens, since his supporters are more likely to vote, due to their enthusiasms.
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I don't know why, but Digg seems like nothing BUT Ron Paul supporters. It's really weird.  It's not only the constant posts about him, but almost every post ends up in a conversation about how he's going to save the country.
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I would like to vote in the primary, but Pennsylvania doesn't hold theirs until the 22nd of April.  I have a feeling the candidates for both parties will be decided long before then. 

I'm also in PA, I knew our primary was late, but I didn't realize it was that late.  Never really looked into since I can't vote in it anyways.
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Awesome. A bunch of people decided to make a Dutch test for the American presidential elections. It was made by Kieskompas and the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, which are both highly respected organizations, so it's dependable. It presents to you a bunch of statements, and you pick whether you agree, strongly agree, don't agree, or strongly don't agree (or you can pick "neutral" or "no opinion"). I took the test just now and this is my result:


The pencil on the top left is my political alignment. I'm closest to Barack Obama, whose ideas are apparently 80% the same as mine (this probably accounts for the fact I almost exclusively used "strongly agree" and "strongly disagree"). I'm 22% more economically leftist and 13% more progressive. The only things we disagree on are his apparent wish to build a big fence around the Mexican border (not sure if that's just a figure of speech, actually), and his idea that America should not lower their defense budget (I think it should). He also believes that Iran is a direct threat to peace, but I think this is rhetorical.

Fred Thompson is the worst candidate for me. Which makes sense, just look at that photo. He looks like a grinch.

EDIT: interestingly, I almost completely agree with Ron Paul on the war on terrorism. I too believe that it was stupid to go to Iraq in the first place, and that it isn't any kind of war that can be won. I disagree with his wish to just grab a jet and head home, because now that the troops are there, the least you could do is keep things stable till an international peacekeeping force is able to fully take over in cooperation with the Iraqi army.
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For all of the Kucinich supporters: he'd like you to make Obama your second choice since he too is "a candidate of change."

Huckabee is nothing but laughable imo, he talks about ending negative ads to the press and then proceeds to show his own campaign's at the conference and compared his ignorance of the NIE report on Iran to gossip about Britney Spears. Even funnier than all of those though is when he said “Domestically, we need to protect our borders with Pakistanis coming into the country.” Does it get any better than this? :fogetbackflip:
That's gay because Obama sucks and Kucinich is cool.  Their views are a little different on some main topics.
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That's gay because Obama sucks and Kucinich is cool.
Why is that? I'm not criticizing you but I'm wondering why you think Obama is not a good choice while Kucinich is. I didn't know much about Kucinich before, but apparently our views are pretty close as well. It seems to me, at a glance, that anyone who supports Kucinich would also be pretty down with Obama on at least most of the major topics.
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Why is that? I'm not criticizing you but I'm wondering why you think Obama is not a good choice while Kucinich is. I didn't know much about Kucinich before, but apparently our views are pretty close as well. It seems to me, at a glance, that anyone who supports Kucinich would also be pretty down with Obama on at least most of the major topics.

I believe it has something to do with Obama being bought by the filthy jews, while Kucnich is championing their demise.
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I believe it has something to do with Obama being bought by the filthy jews, while Kucnich is championing their demise.
In that case, it's too bad Bobby Fischer isn't running.

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