Topic: U.S Presidential Primary Thread (Read 20603 times)

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

NYT endorsed Hillary this year (iirc) but they're running this article tomorrow, just before the big day (2/5). It's pretty long/interesting, but it basically discusses a secret deal made by Bill Clinton involving Kazakh uranium mines. Apparently, he used his influence to help an investor friend acquire millions of dollars worth of rights to some of the riches uranium mines around, and the guy responded in turn by donating $31million to Clinton's charity.

There's been a lot of speculation about whether this will affect the primaries. I am in favor of Obama at this point, so I'd like to see this negatively affect Clinton. Conversely, after having read the article a couple times, I'm not sure that what B Clinton did was either illegal or immoral.
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It echoes a sentiment that Obama has been vocalizing: namely, that the "old Washington", which has a vested interest in such things, is inherently corrupt. I don't think it will have a big impact unless more media pick up the story.
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Obama up 11 points within a week on Gallup poll.

This could be the EDWARDS impact.
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oh my god they're actually debating the issues.

pretty good debate so far!
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So has Hilary taken over California yet?  Or shall Baraquaman call upon his innate powers to talk to fish?

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Moveon.org endorsed obama today
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Moveon.org endorsed obama today

He also just picked up the California service union that had endorsed Edwards.  That's really huge and hopefully gives him a large enough boost to defeat Hillary in that state.
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Does anyone else feel like energy is building behind the Obama Campaign? I thought it was just wishful thinking, but honestly, other than the numbers, I have never ran into anyone who was totally for hillary. Their usually either totally for obama, or like obama, but are voting hillary because they are afraid obama will lose. Then i saw this graph:



I would love it so much to be able to tell my kids how he was behind the whole time then in the end overcame and won the nomination.

I would also hate for it to end up that he lost and we all settled for clinton. Who knows, maybe she would be good, but there is something special about this obama guy.
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What would suck is if he won and did a shitty job.
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I would love it so much to be able to tell my kids how he was behind the whole time then in the end overcame and won the nomination.
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Obama now has a slight lead in California. Tied in NJ and Missouri.
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A music video set to Barack Obama's stirring speech after the New Hampshire primary from Black Eyed Peas frontman will.I.am.. Includes celebrity supporters Scarlett Johansson, John Legend, Herbie Hancock, Kate Walsh, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Adam Rodriquez, Kelly Hu, Adam Rodriquez, Amber Valetta and Nick Cannon. Directed by Jesse Dylan, son of Bob Dylan.

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/35tI-8TaKmU&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/35tI-8TaKmU&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
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that video would be so much better without obama's track in the background

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Like look at that. Before, it was "Obama fucked: Behind by alot in almost every super tuesday state"

and now he's basically even in alot of them. Even if she gets more delegates, if it's close enough, I think he could still carry all the momentum.
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Man, that's an awesome video. Herbie Hancock and Jesse Dylan!
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that video was awsome.
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I'm pretty sure Jesse Dylan was the director of American pie aswell lol
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http://vagabondscholar.blogspot.com/2008/01/that-damned-liberal-racism.html w00t everyone read this because it made me w00t.
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Sorry but I don't w00t

but it's a really good blog and I'll probably start reading it frequently.
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o dang Maria Shriver (Arnold's wife) just endorsed Obama. not really that significant but it will be front page news on every California newspaper tomorrow which is awesome for Obama.
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