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In two years, we'll all be saying "I never supported Obama/Hilary, I wanted Gravel. Gravel would've never done these things."

Btw, do the troops get to vote? Is there a separate place for them to vote, or do they vote like civilians? Who do the troops support?
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They send absentee ballots. Soldiers tend to be overwhelmingly Republican, so I would assume they mostly support McCain... and they're a high-voting group too, so they tend to be a big Republican boost (over a million votes).

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.
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i think a lot of te reason why people don't like hilary is cos she got a dirty vagina

admit it. you dun like dat vag.
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I like how all the candidates are for ChangeTM.  How inspiring!

Huckabee still terrifies me...  I'd take Guiliani over Huckabee.  *cringe*

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I like how all the candidates are for ChangeTM.  How inspiring!

Huckabee still terrifies me...  I'd take Guiliani over Huckabee.  *cringe*

Obama started that shit. After the other candidates saw how well it was working for him, they just started to copy. It's retarded.
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Obama started that shit. After the other candidates saw how well it was working for him, they just started to copy. It's retarded.
Yeah, it's apparently a MAJOR priority these elections. That's why the other candidates have been trying very hard to make it part of their curriculum. It seems to be too late for them, though.
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I voted for Huckabee because he was endorsed by Chuck Norris <insert Chuck Fact here> (Not really)

Here's: David Bowie's "Changes" with the presidential candidates. It's pretty funny (3/4ths of the way through). http://youtube.com/watch?v=OJtgEfIla0A
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Romney dropped out.  He just gave his concession speech. MSNBC article.
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it's not like he had a chance anyway. this will just make it all the more easy for McCain to get the nomination

edit: hahaha his concession speech is beyond laughable. it basically sums up as "i can't risk having the democrats win and us retreat.... and the terrorists win"
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Yeah I grinned at the IN THIS TIME OF WAR thing. That's just ridiculous.
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You don't live in America right Omega? I wanted to note that I find it cool that people like you are very interested in this, if other people have the same level of interest in other countries as you seem to demonstrate it really just proves that  it's not only america that wants a better goverment, but the world wants america to get their shit together, too.
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MSNBC just updated the scores it's now 861-855 for Obama. 
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You don't live in America right Omega? I wanted to note that I find it cool that people like you are very interested in this, if other people have the same level of interest in other countries as you seem to demonstrate it really just proves that  it's not only america that wants a better goverment, but the world wants america to get their shit together, too.
Trust me, all of the world's eyes are on America right now. Not just here in the Netherlands, but in all of Europe. Every single primary and caucus has been reported on here in the Netherlands. The vast majority wants a democrat to win, too. According to some poll, Hillary Clinton is apparently the favorite here, Obama being a close second.

Another important thing is that the presidential elections are so incredibly spectacular in America. Everything that goes on here in Europe pales in comparison.

EDIT: but to some degree, that's also good... when you vote in the Netherlands, you vote more for the party than the person. There's also more to it than just two parties. Since every party that participates gets its fair share of seats in the Dutch House of Representatives (Tweede Kamer, or "Second Chamber"), and that's where most of the interesting stuff happens, it's possible for small parties to be effective too. A good example of why this works is a small party that has just a few seats (2 out of 150 I believe) that exists solely to discuss animal rights. They're very small, and one would expect them to not be capable of getting anything done, but they're actually surprisingly effective. They can raise questions that no other party would. They've introduced hundreds of ideas and plans, and some of them got accepted. So even a minority can have its voice be heard in a system like this. The downside is that we have less spectacular races for the House!

That was my daily America-bashing comment, thanks for your attention.
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Don't worry someday we'll change this two party stuff.

Guys when i make the American Socialist Party join ok.
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Guys when i make the American Socialist Party join ok.

I definitely will, mostly because it means you'd also be in possession of a time machine that's capable of taking us back to the beginning of the twentieth century.

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Not just here in the Netherlands, but in all of Europe.

This is why Americans think they're more important than everyone else.
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Don't worry someday we'll change this two party stuff.

Guys when i make the American Socialist Party join ok.

i'm not one of those HEH FLIP FLOPPER faggots or anything but since when were you even remotely socialist? what made you decide to flip your political opinions? (not trying to be a dick i'm genuinely curious)
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Steel, I need you to give me the biggest, fattest, most erect Anti-Ron Paul post with plenty of links and shit. I just quoted one of your Arguments on another forum, and I might need some more ammo.

PS: I gave you credit and shit though.

EDIT: Actually, you can PM it or whatever. I just need something to go off of hear.
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Steel, I need you to give me the biggest, fattest, most erect Anti-Ron Paul post with plenty of links and shit. I just quoted one of your Arguments on another forum, and I might need some more ammo.

PS: I gave you credit and shit though.

EDIT: Actually, you can PM it or whatever. I just need something to go off of hear.

Ron Paul had several newsletters printed under his name over several decades that were pervasive with anti-semetic, homophobic, racist, and extreme right-wing paranoid conspiracy theory ramblings.  (The sheer number of craziness, filth, and crazy filth contained in these newletters is staggering; just read the article to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes.) 

Despite denying any connection to these newletters that bore his name--and were published by "Ron Paul & Associates"--for decades, Ron Paul continues to make prejudice remarks, describing those working for the Transportation Security Administration as looking "more suspicious to [him] than most Americans who are getting checked," not to mention that he not too long ago voted against the renewal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and published his reasons for disaproval with the Act

It is not surprising that Ron Paul continues to make these types of remarks considering the newletters and his legislative past, where he sponsored a bill that would make it easier for private schools to discriminate, another that would weaken the Civil Rights Act of 1964, yet another that would deny Iranian students federal aid, and finally one that would require unmarried minors to notify parents they requested an abortion or contraceptives, "[prohibit] the expenditure of federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative lifestyle or which suggest that it can be an acceptable lifestyle," endorse "corporal punishment" against children, and repeal the estate tax--a tax which affects only the wealthiest of Americans

He has also recently published articles stating that he believes that the Left is waging a war on Christmas, that Churches should serve a role in society eclipsing that of the state, and that he opposes gay marriage .  Plus, Ron Paul has recently (6/6/07) introduced legislation that would define life as beginning at conception and legislation that would prevent the Supreme Court from hearing cases on the Establishment Clause or the right to privacy, permitting the return of sodomy laws and the like--a bill which he has repeated reintroduced.  (A list of all the ridiculous bills he has sponsored over the past few decades can be found here.)

Oh, there's more.  SO MUCH MORE!

He was the sole vote against divesting US federal government investments in corporations doing business with the genocidal government of the Sudan..  He wants to pull out of the U.N., disband NATO, abolish the federal reserve, reinstate the Gold Standard, believes in New World Order conspiracy theories, believes that the International Baccalaureate program is U.N. mind control, and...

Aw hell, just take a look at his own website, where he advocates abolishing the Department of Education, the Food & Drug Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Social Security Administration, and a ton of other agencies that provide vital public services.

I did not write this, this is someone froM SA, but yeah.

also: does not include a link to the infamous 20 years of newsletters that were uncovered.
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That was quite the erect post
It will definitely help
thanks man.
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I definitely will, mostly because it means you'd also be in possession of a time machine that's capable of taking us back to the beginning of the twentieth century.
There is more to socialism than just that, you know.

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Yeah this is amazing stuff. (Also, see the original topic for more information.) Remember how I said I was going to fix up the Ron Paul article on Wikipedia? It's just too difficult at this point, man. There are a couple of frequent editors who have stated before that "we now reliably know he did not write those newsletters" and other such things. I guess that I should at least wait until the sucker drops out.
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