Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES

But that's what that "advertisement" is. They're burning trillions of tons of coal every second to keep that "advertisement" running but so what? They're paying the bill.

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#24 January 11, 2008, 10:27:41 pm

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Quote from: Inri Cheetos on January 11, 2008, 10:24:27 pm

But that's what that "advertisement" is. They're burning trillions of tons of coal every second to keep that "advertisement" running but so what? They're paying the bill.

no you said They try their best to make as costly as possible, when they do the exact opposite of that...not only that but you implied that I said that...and you said "we"

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#25 January 11, 2008, 10:41:17 pm

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Quote from: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 10:15:13 pm

1. I see you know a lot about advertisement right? Even I, who is trying to get into the advertisement business can't tell you the effectiveness of this method of advertisement, and you can? I can't say something is useless unless I know about it And I can't say what people want or need. They chose to have 12 TVs as their display because that's how it was setup for there purpose. It is not waste as long has it has a reason.

however I can tell you that, a STORE selling TVs that has a display at its windows showcasing 12 TVs on and running will draw a whole lot more attention than a store that has one TV at the store window.

What is a WATS is going out to dinner and leaving the T.V. in your room on, where it has no purpose.

in the Grand Scheme of Things, advertisement is not worth the energy waste. if you are only weighting the benefits of the company, then yes, advertisement rules. but weighing the effects on the planet's resources, it suddenly becomes a lot less wonderful.

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2. Look at the person I quoted' date=' he implies a strong dislike for people who waste energy, I simply stated I personally can't really hate someone who buys something and uses it as he sees fit (even if he is wasting it.) and Why the hell would I HATE someone for "wasting" energy? [b']I could understand if Energy was some RARE resource[/b] and he bought all of it and is just wasting, but no one is doing that.

energy IS a rare resource. i don't know if you realised, but the majority of energy comes from non-renewable resources such as coal. and we are RAPIDLY running out of them! energy doesn't magically appear, you know. that's why it doesn't matter if they paid for it. it's a wasteful use of a limited resource.

edit: i don't usually make a fuss about things like this because i don't care that much, but to have such an ignorant attitude about energy is just infuriating. i don't care, but at least i know.

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#26 January 11, 2008, 10:49:14 pm

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regardless of whether having that much power is a waste of energy it is not within acceptable legal or moral boundaries to sabotage corporate operations that have been paid for with millions of dollars and years of work. and gizmodo did it to be dicks, not protest energy, so it's a moot point either way.

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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#27 January 11, 2008, 10:51:56 pm

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Quote from: dr. ron pual on January 11, 2008, 10:41:17 pm

in the Grand Scheme of Things, advertisement is not worth the energy waste. if you are only weighting the benefits of the company, then yes, advertisement rules. but weighing the effects on the planet's resources, it suddenly becomes a lot less wonderful.
energy IS a rare resource. i don't know if you realised, but the majority of energy comes from non-renewable resources such as coal. and we are RAPIDLY running out of them! energy doesn't magically appear, you know. that's why it doesn't matter if they paid for it. it's a wasteful use of a limited resource.

edit: i don't usually make a fuss about things like this because i don't care that much, but to have such an ignorant attitude about energy is just infuriating. i don't care, but at least i know.

1.lol, in the Grand Scheme of Things, nothing we do matters because we will All die. (I luv that logic) To TRY and take that seriously... I would have to do research...and I just did, Coal is one of the earths most abundant resources, what are you talking about? Just because we can't reuse doesn't make it rare. Not only that, we are in the transition era, where are power sources are being forced to switch. If it wasn't for the motivation of "we need alternate sources of power" we would be taking our sweet time with such advancements. Why am I arguing this point? it's left the scope of the point of what I was defending.

2. I know a lot, is it more than you? I dont know, because I don't know you. I'm glad you can call me ignorant without even knowing me though. I haven't said anything ignorant, however I could call you ignorant for talking about advertisement without understanding it, but I wont.

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#28 January 11, 2008, 10:57:52 pm

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The point is that they did it and then EDITED A VIDEO and then posted it online for ATTENTION?

It would be different if they went into Circuit City or something for this. But a lot of people have spent huge amounts of money for a chance to hold a presentation showcasing their product line, and the following happens:

and now...the moment you've been waiting for...our high contrast HDTV!
*tv doesn't turn on*
*press scribbles on notepads*

Even if saying hey, Gizmodo FUCKED US UP it wasn't our fault, even if they stopped bad press, it would still mean lots of wasted money because they didn't get to show off anything.

And really, a lot of people's jobs are at stake (not mine though)

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#29 January 11, 2008, 11:27:50 pm

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Yes it was a rather childish action but this doesn't mean they don't deserve a medal for what they did

Xenosoft do you think it's OK to pollute the air by burning coal just for advertisement? And advertisement that didn't work because seeing a bunch of TVs turned on doesn't make me want to buy TVs

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#30 January 11, 2008, 11:34:11 pm

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Quote from: Inri Cheetos on January 11, 2008, 11:27:50 pm

Yes it was a rather childish action but this doesn't mean they don't deserve a medal for what they did

Xenosoft do you think it's OK to pollute the air by burning coal just for advertisement? And advertisement that didn't work because seeing a bunch of TVs turned on doesn't make me want to buy TVs

your funny, so it went from wasting energy to Polluting? whatever....You think its ok to pollute just to play some video games? You think its okay to pollute just to play a football game at night time rather than playing during the day? You think its okay to pollute just so you don't have to wash your clothes by hand anymore? ...Ithe list can go forever.

I'm glad to hear that seeing a bunch of tvs on doesn't make you want to bu ya TV, but I'm pretty sure if you were looking fora TV and you noticed the store, you would walk in, unless you had preset store inmind.

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What the fuck does this have to do with environmental issues? The convention center probably doesn't sap much more power than your average corporate building or small industrial facility, and it contributes to the economy by spurring international growth in the tech industry.

way to extrapolate COMPLETELY UNRELATED ISSUES from this newspost guys (next thing you'll be posting HEH..MOTHER EARTH CRIES when someone posts something about the world's tallest building or some shit)

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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Quote from: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 11:34:11 pm

your funny, so it went from wasting energy to Polluting?

No it never went, it ~~was~~ a waste or energy and pollution ~~was~~ one of it's many consequences.

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whatever....You think its ok to pollute just to play some video games? You think its okay to pollute just to play a football game at night time rather than playing during the day? You think its okay to pollute just so you don't have to wash your clothes by hand anymore? ...Ithe list can go forever.

I don't, that's why I don't own a car and try to not use so much electrical energy by turning things off when I'm not using them. I flush the toilet only if it has shit in it and try to take as few (cold, because heating water uses a lot of energy) showers as possible to save water as well.

Quote from: benjamin franklin on January 11, 2008, 11:44:41 pm

What the fuck does this have to do with environmental issues? The convention center probably doesn't sap much more power than your average corporate building or small industrial facility, and it contributes to the economy by spurring international growth in the tech industry.

way to extrapolate COMPLETELY UNRELATED ISSUES from this newspost guys (next thing you'll be posting HEH..MOTHER EARTH CRIES when someone posts something about the world's tallest building or some shit)

It has everything to do with environmental issues, I bet the kids just started a new eco-trend by sabotaging conventions that use too much power for nothing

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#33 January 12, 2008, 12:04:47 am

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Oh ok, now I understand you.

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#34 January 12, 2008, 12:13:31 am

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wait let me get this straight people still pay attention to anything inri cheetos says? he's as close to being a joke account as you can be without being a joke account

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#35 January 12, 2008, 01:47:04 am

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if you are like me and think that advertising is one of the most useless, disgusting things on the planet, then this video will make you somewhat happy

i only say SOMEWHAT because it's just a prank but i find it extremely difficult to take any exception with pranks at the expense of precious advertising dollars.

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#36 January 12, 2008, 01:57:08 am

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Quote from: Catslacks on January 11, 2008, 10:11:51 pm

"is commonly thought of as a jellyfish but is actually a siphonophore—a colony of specialized polyps and medusoids."

l2r

Also yeah, I'm torn between "DIE CORPORATE SCUM" and the feeling that it was kind of immature and unfunny.

Those are names of stages jellyfishes go through before turning into a jellyfish (I.E: larva, etc).

Btw, I would actually liked to have seen this so I could laugh at the pathetic "new" technology that can not self sustain itself without electricity (I'm sure they weren't prepared for this enough to bring batteries or something).

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/967946252/rainfall-the-sojourn

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#37 January 12, 2008, 02:56:01 am

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Quote from: Macubex on January 12, 2008, 01:57:08 am

Those are names of stages jellyfishes go through before turning into a jellyfish (I.E: larva, etc).

Btw, I would actually liked to have seen this so I could laugh at the pathetic "new" technology that can not self sustain itself without electricity (I'm sure they weren't prepared for this enough to bring batteries or something).

Well wikipedia makes it pretty clear in both the man-o-war article and the siphonophora articles that the man-o-war IS NOT a jellyfish.

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The Portuguese Man O' War is often confused with a jellyfish, which is incorrect and may lead to improper treatment of stings, as the venom is different. A second sting may lead to an allergic reaction.

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"Siphonophora is an order of the Hydrozoa, a class of marine invertebrates belonging to the phylum Cnidaria. They are colonial, the colonies can superficially resemble jellyfish and they may be Earth's most abundant predators. The best known species is the Portuguese Man o' War. Each Man o' War is a colony."

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Btw, I would actually liked to have seen this so I could laugh at the pathetic "new" technology that can not self sustain itself without electricity (I'm sure they weren't prepared for this enough to bring batteries or something).

What do you mean sustain itself? The guys were using a remote to turn off the monitors/televisions.

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#38 January 12, 2008, 03:21:13 am

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Hundley brings up a point worth discussing.

I assume that (if you're like me) you dislike advertising because millions of dollars are poured into it for the purpose of promoting a product, often superficially. So for example, Coke commercials during the Super Bowl - everyone knows what Coke is, and a 30-second spot costs over 2 million dollars. The same goes with Apple's video ads comparing OSX and Windows - I've never seen them aired on television (someone correct me if they have) and all they really seem to be for is to let Mac users have a private chuckle. Windows users have to go out of their way to see them. Ads like that is a waste of money, and I'll hate that easily.

But I've seen really creative commercials in all the mindless promotion. Like, artists and musicians are often hired to make something and it really helps them - financially, yes, but also getting exposure and practice. An obscure Asian hip hop group (Mountain Brothers?) were featured on a Sprite radio commercial and that's how they got noticed. I've found Zune Arts to have some really experimental stuff in their animation, and this wouldn't be out there if Microsoft didn't tell an artist, "Hey, go nuts."

I mean, obviously, there's a limit to their creative expression when working on an ad, but they're getting paid for it! Someone, somewhere in all the money pouring down the drain is at least getting supported as they work towards being well off enough to be able to do whatever the hell they want creatively, so where do you draw the line?

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#39 January 12, 2008, 06:01:23 am

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@Catslacks

it's pretty clear I came here to talk about jellyfishes and made a shitty attempt on trying to stay on topic. Anyways, I'll stop now even though I wanted to touch up on something.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/967946252/rainfall-the-sojourn

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#40 January 12, 2008, 09:53:17 am

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here is where i draw the line: all ads are bad and xenosoft is a corporate stooge

boop oop a doop

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