dude a 360 gameshark will run you like $25-30 so why wouldnt you just pay $5

well I'm not sure what the price is or if the code has a GS supported version (I heard the hack is pretty easy tho, I just don't know how they did it yet (I don't own the game, I play off my friends because I'm too cheap to buy a nex-gen console and i'm not hacking my friends disk)) but I doubt you'd buy a Gameshark for just one game, and this is a super deplorable business practice that you shouldn't support seems like a good reason too!

I don't have anything against people who pay for it tho, if you don't want to hack your disk or whatever, BY ALL MEANS please go throw 5$ of your own money away, but all your doing is sending a message to Namco that it is AOK for them to keep doing this. (holding content off of the live game after they finish it, just to charge you money to readd it back in. Effectively this game cost 65$ (give or take depending on where you got it, sales etc) just to get the whole roster.

I do think it's overpriced, considering most of these additional characters and extra stages and extra modes in other games are $0.99, or $1.99... At least give us the character and some new content. If they TRIED a little, rather than openly rubbed their well manicured hands together in our faces, it'd be quite fine.
I'm a tad worried about LittleBigPlanet in that respect. Hopefully the easy-cash-in of PSN content won't overwhelm them, so they sell maybe 3 new stickers for $0.99... that's be totally gay.

Er, yeah, so like I was saying, there's other games that have reasonable pricing, for content, like PAIN isn't too, er, painful, and Megaman 9 has some cheap content, though they multitude of content downloads rather than a single pack is getting annoying.

I don't know where you people are finding Gamesharks for the 360. Someone was spouting crap about this in another topic too (I think it was Aten). There's no reliable 360 cheat devices FOR THIS EXACT REASON: developers are now including content on the disc that you have to pay to unlock as "Downloadable content". Obviously there's a fear that players could simply hack it for free with a readily available toolset like the gameshark.

But yeah DLC is definitely pretty shit a lot of the time. There's some game (another Namco title in fact I believe, some plane game) that has something like over $120 in DLC and it's all basically just SKINS for your planes. Not new planes, just new SKINS for them.

GOOD DLC: That Bring Down The Sky thing for Mass Effect. ACTUAL NEW GAMEPLAY and shit.

BAD DLC: Oblivion's horse armour. This was basically where it all started I think, when developers really realized that they could make money from ridiculous micro transactions. Doesn't matter if it has any sort of game effect or extends the gameplay lifespan.

As far as I know, hacking the game to get Vader for the 360 is just pure speculation... We gotta pay the $5 for him and I probably will. Even if there was a game shark for the 360, you risk not only damaging the game and the system but also not being able to play on Xbox Live.. When you Mod the system, you can't play on Live so the same thing applies here..

Way too many risks which will most likely happen... Just pay the damn $5 if you wanna use him...

As far as I know, hacking the game to get Vader for the 360 is just pure speculation... We gotta pay the $5 for him and I probably will. Even if there was a game shark for the 360, you risk not only damaging the game and the system but also not being able to play on Xbox Live.. When you Mod the system, you can't play on Live so the same thing applies here..

Way too many risks which will most likely happen... Just pay the damn $5 if you wanna use him...

You don't mod the system, it's really just the equivalent of using a cheat device on the disk, and yes it's real. The files for him were found on the disk and videos for it were on the internet for the longest time until Namco took them down (guess why?). A lot of companies are just putting content on the disks but locking them out until the right code is given which is what you buy with the DLC. They essentially get you to pay 60$ for a game that has locked out content with the sole purpose of getting you to pay more later. It's kinda shite, but it is true you could damage your system/disk/etc, but then again you could damage your PC by visiting any website and you could brick your PSP by hacking it, so. I don't know much more about the hacking, but it was very real since the footage wasn't from any promos or anything. You'd be hard pressed to find any info on it now, a lot of the stuff on it is hard to find on search engines or has been taken down by namco, so.

the keepers of the secret operate not unlike the illuminati... they are... the knowers of the vader unlcok.

If people got up in arms about it they'd probably lower the cost. Maybe.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

You don't mod the system, it's really just the equivalent of using a cheat device on the disk, and yes it's real. The files for him were found on the disk and videos for it were on the internet for the longest time until Namco took them down (guess why?). A lot of companies are just putting content on the disks but locking them out until the right code is given which is what you buy with the DLC. They essentially get you to pay 60$ for a game that has locked out content with the sole purpose of getting you to pay more later. It's kinda shite, but it is true you could damage your system/disk/etc, but then again you could damage your PC by visiting any website and you could brick your PSP by hacking it, so. I don't know much more about the hacking, but it was very real since the footage wasn't from any promos or anything. You'd be hard pressed to find any info on it now, a lot of the stuff on it is hard to find on search engines or has been taken down by namco, so.

So would it be better if they actually made you download the stuff? I mean your whole point is that the data is on the disc and you shouldn't pay for stuff on the disc, but what if they never put it on there and made you actually download the thing.

You don't mod the system, it's really just the equivalent of using a cheat device on the disk, and yes it's real. The files for him were found on the disk and videos for it were on the internet for the longest time until Namco took them down (guess why?). A lot of companies are just putting content on the disks but locking them out until the right code is given which is what you buy with the DLC. They essentially get you to pay 60$ for a game that has locked out content with the sole purpose of getting you to pay more later. It's kinda shite, but it is true you could damage your system/disk/etc, but then again you could damage your PC by visiting any website and you could brick your PSP by hacking it, so. I don't know much more about the hacking, but it was very real since the footage wasn't from any promos or anything. You'd be hard pressed to find any info on it now, a lot of the stuff on it is hard to find on search engines or has been taken down by namco, so.

Why would you risk damaging your system or game over a measly 5 bucks? I mean if its all about principle.. that still doesn't really justify it unless you have a SURE way of unlocking the character with practically a 0% chance of doing any harm to your game or system. Instead of losing $5, you'd lose over $300..

I think if you can afford the console and the game, then an extra $5 won't hurt. I still don't like the fact that you have to pay but its pocket change.

So would it be better if they actually made you download the stuff? I mean your whole point is that the data is on the disc and you shouldn't pay for stuff on the disc, but what if they never put it on there and made you actually download the thing.

It's moreso their motivation for doing so. Usually extra content is something released after a game is, because developers needed more time to work on it, or its something fans wrote in about, or whatever. So they add it as DLC and slap a price on it. This, however, shows that they had already made the content when they had finished the game, and merely though "hey, we should not let them have this part of the game for free, and instead offer to unlock it for a price".

You can speculate about what kind of DLC you will have for your product, but when you have it ready as the product is ready, thats pretty shady, like it would be part of the game till someone decided enough people would pay money for it. And having it ON the product, just not accessible for free? That's flat out admitting it.