Question Finding a #$!$# Wii. (Read 10902 times)

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...kicking my wii worked.

it's fucking working.
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...kicking my wii worked.

it's fucking working.

Nintendo and it's gimmicks. So fun.

Glad to hear it's working. Let me know what you think of Zak and Wiki.
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Sorry but A 360 is more value than a wii, because you're buying a system which has more than four or five games which're better than Superman64. With the Wii... Superman64 begins to look as good as Zelda: Oot.

Well yes, if you look at it at face value. But how many people actually buy more than five games for any given console?

If you are the kind of person that needs to play more than 5 games before the console's life cycle ends, then there is something wrong with you.

There, I said it.
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Where all your arguments fail, is...it's your opinion.

I'm buying the Wii, because I have always loved Nintendo games. I dont care if not many games are coming out soon, because I will have Mario Galaxy, and Brawl to play. PLUS, I'll just download some classic games.

Now, this thread was made for finding a Wii, and I think that i'm pretty close to getting one now. Thank you for your input!
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Well yes, if you look at it at face value. But how many people actually buy more than five games for any given console?

If you are the kind of person that needs to play more than 5 games before the console's life cycle ends, then there is something wrong with you.

There, I said it.

this is a fake post.

Where all your arguments fail, is...it's your opinion.

I'm buying the Wii, because I have always loved Nintendo games. I dont care if not many games are coming out soon, because I will have Mario Galaxy, and Brawl to play. PLUS, I'll just download some classic games.

Now, this thread was made for finding a Wii, and I think that i'm pretty close to getting one now. Thank you for your input!

opinions are not magic things that come out of nowhere but are based on facts I know right???????
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Glad to hear it's working. Let me know what you think of Zak and Wiki.

I can't play that.  I can play all my gamecube games and stuff now but there's this tiny little scratch on my used copy of Zak and Wiki and I'm beginning to believe that any disc that's even simply flawed cannot be played.

I have played No More Heroes... and it's pretty average.  It's like a poor man's version of God Hand minus the insane boss fights.

But considering the Wii's current library of "Point At Screen While Things Happen" and "Mario's Unlicensed Fantasy Sports Title" I can't complain.
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what is up with this revisionist God Hand stuff coming up all of a sudden.

wasn't that game horrible?
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Revisionist?  I loved God Hand since it first came out and I haven't seen anyone else (except maybe Bisse) talk about the game on this forum in a long time.

It was the best beat 'em up since Streets of Rage although that's not saying much considering the line up in the past 10 years has consisted of NOTHING.

But yeah it was horrible if you sucked because even on easy the game was unforgiving.
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Where all your arguments fail, is...it's your opinion.

I'm buying the Wii, because I have always loved Nintendo games. I dont care if not many games are coming out soon, because I will have Mario Galaxy, and Brawl to play. PLUS, I'll just download some classic games.

Dude... I was a pretty big Ninty fanboy until I got hold of a wii (well actually gamecube was kinda ghey and then the DS...) but the wii kinda killed any respect I had for Nintendo. As like most people I was somewhat stupid in thinking that Nintendo were for OLD SCHOOL GAMING CHARM. The DS kinda showed that they was more into money and getting the casual gaming market, the Gamecube showed that they cared very little about game quality but the Wii has come along and showed us that Nintendo will release any trash for a quick quid. Wii sports... Wii play... these games could have been put on the virtual console for $0.99. Mario Party is even with other people utterly dull and devoid of any depth required to make a game even remotely interesting. Multi console games are comming out on the wii and are suffering because they seem to require to fullfill the console's gimmicks of making things as akward as possible to play (and for a guy like me who shakes, the wii is entirely user unfriendly).
If you've seen some of the youtube videos flying around by some asian guy(tm), you'd see that the Wii COULD be something great, but until they(nintendo) see that, it's just wasted potential. But they're not going to because they're doing the EA route of putting out drivel because it gets them the most money.
Believe me, this isn't the Nintendo wii think wii know and love. Nintendo have generally stopped caring about the games.

But what do I know, I'm a modern-hardcore gamer (and I hate myself for knowing all about the terminology used to describe gaming markets), and to me the casual gaming market is my worst nightmare, but I'm biased towards companies who turn their backs towards their fanbase (in nintendo's case it's the old-hardcore), in order to get more zenny.
And you could say my arguement fails... but it's based on more than just opinion. I read up on games, game development and game markets (I have no life), so this is one of the few times I can say I know some small amount about what I'm takling about.
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@ Kaworu : I do agree with many points you have made. Many of the games are stupid and repetitive, and yeah, i've seen the azn genious playing with the Wii and going further with it than Nintendo has. I do see Nintendo going for the more general public, instead of fanboys. And I too think it sucks. Fat retards who pronounce Mario, MAIR-E-OH, are latching onto the Wii now at every WalMart across America! It's scary...anyways...

But I am getting older, and I don't have time to play games as much as I use to. The reason I am buying a Wii, is so my friends and I can enjoy some fun games together. I dont plan on spending a ridiculous amount of money for video games. The only game I have really played a lot in the past year is Warcraft III : The Frozen Throne. Paying for a PS3 is insane, and I dont wanna have to pay monthly for Xboxlive, or even buy a 360.

This is why, in my opinion, the Wii wins for me...I enjoy Nintendo games. Galaxy, Brawl, LoZ, Metroid, eventully Mario Kart, Fire Emblem, etc...these killer APPS are good enough for me =D
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Where all your arguments fail, is...it's your opinion.

I'm buying the Wii, because I have always loved Nintendo games. I dont care if not many games are coming out soon, because I will have Mario Galaxy, and Brawl to play. PLUS, I'll just download some classic games.

Now, this thread was made for finding a Wii, and I think that i'm pretty close to getting one now. Thank you for your input!

 

The Wii Shop Channel is a great service, and I've purchased some wonderful classics I didn't play during my childhood, like Super Metroid.
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Thats awesome Vivi. Super Metroid is a great game ^_^

Do you know if they have Secret of Mana on there? Or is there a list of available games somewhere?
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This topic is how he wanted a wii and how/where to get one. Not everybody is so rabidly anti-wii as some people here are. If he wants one, then that is that, it's up to him and he doesn't want people to try to convince him otherwise. I have the wii, and I really like it. That is MY opinion, but it's just to show you that some people actually like/love it.
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Thats awesome Vivi. Super Metroid is a great game ^_^

Do you know if they have Secret of Mana on there? Or is there a list of available games somewhere?
SoM is not out yet, and it sounds like Squenix has no plans to remake or port it soon, but they weren't clear whether or not that meant that they weren't interested in putting it on VC either, though. They sound like they do want to release Chrono Trigger, but that there are rights issues with the original copyright holders that they have to get around first. They've also released ActRaiser and (I think) Hanjuku Heroes (in Japan), so we know that with games that they have no plans to remake or port, they're not against going Virtual Console.

They said both of those statements back in Summer, though, and I haven't heard anything since.
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Thank you very much shadowtext. And thats a shame, one of the best games for the SNES =/

Looks like you didn't have a penis shoved in ur ass that made you cry "jesus christ"

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opinions are not magic things that come out of nowhere but are based on facts I know right???????

They come out of people's asses.

You make it sound as if opinions are facts. Yes, they are based on facts, but your interpretation of those facts makes it your opinion. Generally speaking, one person's opinion is no more accurate than another's.

In this case however, your opinion may be worth less than another person's, since I'm assuming you don't even have a Wii.

On topic though, the Wii isn't as bad as it seems. There are only a small number of good games out for it compared to other systems so your selection is smaller, but there's still plenty to keep you entertained. I've made a list of current and upcoming titles. I haven't played most of these, but they have fairly good reviews (and others you'd have to like the genre, like One Piece), but it's something to consider.

Current Titles:
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
No More Heroes
Battalion Wars 2
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
Super Paper Mario
Mario Strikers Charged
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure
Super Mario Galaxy
Madden NFL 08
SSX Blur
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Scarface: The World is Yours
Zack and Wiki
Trauma Center: New Blood
DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Upcoming Titles:
Tales of Symphonia (sequel to the GC title)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Worms: A Space Oddity
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Okami
Baroque
Civilization Revolution
Harvest Moon Heroes
Bomberman Land
Boom Blox
Animal Crossing
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
King's Story
Disaster: Day of Crisis
de Blob
Alone in the Dark
Obscure: The Aftermath
SEGA Superstar Tennis
Rygar: The Battle of Argus
Mario Kart Wii
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They come out of people's asses.

You make it sound as if opinions are facts. Yes, they are based on facts, but your interpretation of those facts makes it your opinion. Generally speaking, one person's opinion is no more accurate than another's.

In this case however, your opinion may be worth less than another person's, since I'm assuming you don't even have a Wii.

...obviously interpretation does. saying something like WELL IT'S JUST YOUR OPINION is not a magic shield though. of course it's my opinion that I don't want to buy a Wii, and it's some people's opinion that they do. the point is to illustrate the flaws in that interpretation. I never said opinions were fact, I even CLARIFIED that point. opinions are based on facts.

also my opinion isn't worth less because I came to the conclusion I don't want one. seriously, if someone has an opinion against a political leader you can't just say "well you're not even a citizen of that country so no matter how much you know or what arguments you present, you'll never be as good as this Texan who voted for George W Bush godbless"

like, of all those games you listed, aside from many being ports or widely known as just par for the course, let me show you what I mean.

I would say that maybe two or three of those games has even the potential of a non-horrible story line or even a story focus at all. NOW: the way people who don't actually have basis behind their opinion will defend that list is "I DONT CARE ABOUT STORY LINES". the way people who DO have a basis will argue is that the Wii never was created to be a story intensive console to begin with, and at that point you have the divide that is unfortunately for most people unpassable. some people are just like "well I don't care about stories at all lol" and other people do or would rather be on a console that doesn't actively have this image of just being for gameplay only, and you can even extend that to people wanting to see just better videogames as a whole.

of course, expecting a level of discourse where you can actually discuss whether games should or even could evolve into the point of a legitimately well written story is way more than I have learned to expect of GW, so I'd rather post saying something like "Wii has like zero games" and have someone post a list that is mostly worthless or "Mario: Bath Sim" which I think does more to prove my point that Nintendo actively hates well plotted games so if you like flicking shit around for an hour and a half with no investment it's the console for you!
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also my opinion isn't worth less because I came to the conclusion I don't want one. seriously, if someone has an opinion against a political leader you can't just say "well you're not even a citizen of that country so no matter how much you know or what arguments you present, you'll never be as good as this Texan who voted for George W Bush godbless"

Right, but a person who owns a Wii and has played the games first hand has a more valid opinion than you do. Remember Last Man on Earth and how you bitched at me about it when I hadn't even seen the movie? It's the same thing here, except I backed down and you don't want to because you can't stand to lose an argument.

I would say that maybe two or three of those games has even the potential of a non-horrible story line or even a story focus at all. NOW: the way people who don't actually have basis behind their opinion will defend that list is "I DONT CARE ABOUT STORY LINES". the way people who DO have a basis will argue is that the Wii never was created to be a story intensive console to begin with, and at that point you have the divide that is unfortunately for most people unpassable. some people are just like "well I don't care about stories at all lol" and other people do or would rather be on a console that doesn't actively have this image of just being for gameplay only, and you can even extend that to people wanting to see just better videogames as a whole.

That's the thing though. Some people don't care about story lines. Some play games for the gameplay. People tell me Elder Scrolls has an amazing story, but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole because the gameplay doesn't appeal to me, regardless of how good the story might be. All of those people who play shooters, fighting games, sports games, party games, music games, etc. don't care about story so they play games with good gameplay, which appeals to them. If Guitar Hero or Smash Bros. or Halo focused on story instead of gameplay, they wouldn't sell nearly as well as they do.

Your argument really only applies to RPGs and action/adventure games, which need a decent story (and even then, if gameplay is top notch, it can be overlooked by most). Not saying your opinion is wrong here since story may be more important than gameplay to you, but again, they're just opinions anyways. No right. No wrong.

if you like flicking shit around for an hour and a half with no investment it's the console for you!

Tell me exactly what you're getting from investing your time into other consoles that the Wii doesn't offer? You're wasting your time one way or another. All you get in return is entertainment. So if a console keeps you entertained, it's done its job.