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Seems more and more that this was an accident. New reports confirms that he was found lying in bed in a normal sleeping position. Seems that he took some pills to sleep, overdoes and then died, but the last part is just something to speculate about.
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Seeing new talent die prematurely is always a sad thing.

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Fucking american hick ass sons of fuking inbred bitch ass mutha fucks.

What a bunch of jesus dicksuckers.

I hear they "picket" soldiers funerals too.

Anybody who thinks Westboro is a serious church made of serious religious people is the fucking inbred bitch ass mutha fuck.  Not only have they been classified as a hate group by the United States Government but they are also not recognized as a religious group at all even by other churches.  The members themselves state that they are not bible believers and consider themselves a bastardized form of Calvinism.  They're essentially the KKK without the hoods who protest "peacefully" so police don't mess with them but they're still hate mongers who have nothing to do with religion at all.
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well sorry etc... etc... etc...

the only point i wanted to make was that it's a little absurd to come into an obituary topic about a 2nd rate actor that nobody here knows and read: IT HURTS


moving on: i kinda like the god hates fags people. they draw attention to the perils of fundamentalism. hopefully, one day they'll picket the wrong funeral and get pumped full of lead. then they can go to hell with everyone else who has hate in their soul.
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Wikipedia links this image to an article on freedom of speech. This is a pretty fucking serious issue!

Freedom of speech.  It's not serious, it's just how the country works.  If we let them picket, people hate us for supporting hate mongers.  If we don't let them picket then it makes us look like a bigoted country.  It's lose lose either way but like you said the important thing is to stop paying attention to them and eventually they'll give up.
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Freedom of speech.  It's not serious, it's just how the country works.  If we let them picket, people hate us for supporting hate mongers.  If we don't let them picket then it makes us look like a bigoted country.  It's lose lose either way but like you said the important thing is to stop paying attention to them and eventually they'll give up.
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Their demonstrations don't fall under the protection of free speech. I'm pretty sure god has the grounds to sue them for libel.
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this isn't an especially big loss

Tell that to his family and his friends.
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Anybody who thinks Westboro is a serious church made of serious religious people is the fucking inbred bitch ass mutha fuck.  Not only have they been classified as a hate group by the United States Government but they are also not recognized as a religious group at all even by other churches.  The members themselves state that they are not bible believers and consider themselves a bastardized form of Calvinism.  They're essentially the KKK without the hoods who protest "peacefully" so police don't mess with them but they're still hate mongers who have nothing to do with religion at all.

Serious? shit, I suppose they don't just go after gays then? (blacks ect) or are they just entirely homophobic?

Tell that to his family and his friends.

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Tell that to his family and his friends.

uh, what's that have to do with any of us at all?
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uh, what's that have to do with any of us at all?

Everyone knows we are Heath Ledger's family and friends.

No, but really, there seems to be a large conflict with both sides shouting, "I think this way therefore you should too." Such as: "I like Heath and thought he was a great actor therefore you should all like and respect him and cry for his death and if you don't you are soulless and immoral." And then the other side shouting: "Heath was just a dumb actor you shouldn't like him or be upset with his death." And it's just pretty much a waste of time.
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jesus christ a lot of you people are really confused.
OH HEATH LEDGER AINT THAT IMPORTANT I AM NOT SAD!!

dude, fine. Now dont go saying the rest shouldn't feel bad about him either. Because every person affects every people in DIFFERENT ways. Some may be more emotionally attached, others aren't. Some like him better as an actor others may not.
it is ok to feel sad about it.
Now the poor african people suffering from starvation? That's another topic, go ahead and post a new thread about it, and we will feel very sad too (or not!).
Sentiments for Ledger's death and African starvation are NOT ahem MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
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Don't you at all feel that death, rather than something to be scared of, should be recognized daily as it is the truth, it is the one thing we can really work off of.

Time passes, we age, we feel pain, we feel tired, but all the pain subsides in death.  All of what we've gained is gone.  All of our hard work is up in the air.  In heaven if there is a heaven, do you think that we will be lugging our laptops and tv's by the ankle of our feet?  If anything that would keep us weighed down, and maybe that's what ghost are, attached to living and haven't found the satisfaction of it yet.

That is besides what I am saying.  I am actually okay with him dying, I feel he doesn't have to struggle to be anything anymore.  Its either learn the truth now, or wait till death. 

We're brought up in America to be something, to gain, to go to school in order to get a job and get money.  All of that is meaningless if we die.  The only thing that seems to mean of anything, is that I have pain, I suffer emotionally and physically, that is also real and that others suffer emotional and physical pain as well, but I have the wisdom to understand that all of this is temporary, and they do not, all I can show them is my love and care. 

We take ourselves too serious, stop trying to take ourselves serious, we all end up as nothing.  When we take ourselves seriously we are always trying to protect ourselves which manifests into lying, cheating, greed, hate, jealousy.  We die and that's it.  With just this wisdom can we satisfy-satiate our pain and finally be open to the lives of others.

All we can do is live through this time, possibly make an impact on someone's life.  It still pains me to see my friends leave or leave my friends, or if they were to die, so is that hypocrisy?  It doesn't matter, they had impact on my life, they cared about me and I cared about them, and I can't help but to feel for these people who were in my life.

We're upset about an actor dieing, it is a little shocking to hear, someone so young die so suddenly and out of the blue.  It happens all the time.  We are born and then we die, all of the in between somewhat doesn't matter in death, so instead of struggling, which is more hurtful in death, we should be at peace now, appreciate now, now our friends, this moment, the ground I stand on, the trees that stand tall.  The one thing about nature that I love, is that I know it will never leave me.   

Lets not make life harder to live through for ourselves and others, that is the same as taking away a life.
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Serious? shit, I suppose they don't just go after gays then? (blacks ect) or are they just entirely homophobic?

They claim to be completely homophobic (their church moto is "God hates fags") but they have been caught with racial slander although they've done less racist stuff lately because more Americans will hate you for being racist than they will for being homophobic.  They are known anti-semites (another moto is "The only real Jews are Christians").
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Don't you at all feel that death, rather than something to be scared of, should be recognized daily as it is the truth, it is the one thing we can really work off of.

Time passes, we age, we feel pain, we feel tired, but all the pain subsides in death.  All of what we've gained is gone.  All of our hard work is up in the air.  In heaven if there is a heaven, do you think that we will be lugging our laptops and tv's by the ankle of our feet?  If anything that would keep us weighed down, and maybe that's what ghost are, attached to living and haven't found the satisfaction of it yet.

That is besides what I am saying.  I am actually okay with him dying, I feel he doesn't have to struggle to be anything anymore.  Its either learn the truth now, or wait till death. 

We're brought up in America to be something, to gain, to go to school in order to get a job and get money.  All of that is meaningless if we die.  The only thing that seems to mean of anything, is that I have pain, I suffer emotionally and physically, that is also real and that others suffer emotional and physical pain as well, but I have the wisdom to understand that all of this is temporary, and they do not, all I can show them is my love and care. 

We take ourselves too serious, stop trying to take ourselves serious, we all end up as nothing.  When we take ourselves seriously we are always trying to protect ourselves which manifests into lying, cheating, greed, hate, jealousy.  We die and that's it.  With just this wisdom can we satisfy-satiate our pain and finally be open to the lives of others.

All we can do is live through this time, possibly make an impact on someone's life.  It still pains me to see my friends leave or leave my friends, or if they were to die, so is that hypocrisy?  It doesn't matter, they had impact on my life, they cared about me and I cared about them, and I can't help but to feel for these people who were in my life.

We're upset about an actor dieing, it is a little shocking to hear, someone so young die so suddenly and out of the blue.  It happens all the time.  We are born and then we die, all of the in between somewhat doesn't matter in death, so instead of struggling, which is more hurtful in death, we should be at peace now, appreciate now, now our friends, this moment, the ground I stand on, the trees that stand tall.  The one thing about nature that I love, is that I know it will never leave me.   

Lets not make life harder to live through for ourselves and others, that is the same as taking away a life.

Wow that's depressing
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I heard that the role of Joker was making it very hard for him to sleep at night (understandable considering he stayed alone in a hotel room for a month studying).  It was also said that he had to take double his dosage of whatever prescription he was on to get even a good hour of sleep at night.  I really hope and want to believe it was accidental, though narcotics may have been found in his system.  It could still have been a mix of what he was prescribed and the narcotics that combined in a lethal way and still be accidental, so I hope they don't find anymore.  I really just want to believe he had extreme difficulty with sleep and went a little too far trying to get a good night's rest.  I, like some others here..., thought Heath to be a second rate actor for a long time.  I didn't like him much and when they announced his part as Joker I just about completely lost interest in the new Batman series.  Within the last month, though, I've seen all these clips of him as Joker and, granted no one has seen the full release yet, I felt like he did an amazing job and I absolutely cannot wait to see the film.  It's sad that what could potentially be one of his best roles could also be what lead to his death (playing a psychotic serial killer takes its tole).  His career was just beginning and I had high hopes for him.  What's bad is The Dark Knight will probably gross more due to Heath's passing.  I hope nobody rejoices for that...
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Tuesday, January 22, 2008

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'Brokeback Mountain' star
- Heath Ledger - is dead.
WBC will picket his funeral.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with
womankind; it is abomination." Lev. 18:22.
"For because of these things cometh the wrath
of God upon the children of disobedience." Eph.5:6.
Yes. WBC will picket this pervert's funeral, in religious protest and warning:
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked." Gal. 6:7.
Heath Ledger thought it was great fun defying God Almighty and His plain word; to wit: God Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers! Ergo, God hates the
sordid, tacky bucket of slime seasoned with vomit known as 'Brokeback Mountain' - and He hates all persons having anything whatsoever to do with it. Heath Ledger is now in Hell, and has begun serving his eternal sentence there - beside which, nothing else about Heath Ledger is rerevant or consequential."

Edit:  My bad I didn't realize this was posted already!
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It's depressing but it is what we have to deal with because it is the inevitable.
We're always trying to gain, and for what?  You know.
Many of the worlds problems are because of that.
Also because we wish to protect our fragile lives.
But that is only because we take it so seriously,
we lie and cheat, and feel jealousy, hate and anger to protect ourselves.
It's all a bunch of fucking strategies to protect ourselves.
Now look at it globally, fear is our downfall, that is why terrorism works, it achieves nothing but chaos, their will be no peace achieved out of terrorism.
We develop strategies because our fears.
Collectively we add to all of the ills of the world.
We are all afraid of death, we try to ignore or prove that death can't stop us.

Just stop and understand your fears, you can root most of it because you value your life, because you are afraid of death.
When you understand death, and what it entails, there is nothing to be afraid of.
Understanding death occurs is liberation in life.
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Godot, let's put it this way, life is absurd, it doesn't have a point, you put a point to your life and then you just die, y'know?
I am easy with the world because I know that my existance is absurd, and so is yours, and so are everyone's reactions. Everything is meaningless.
In that way of thought, you'd be invincible to any sort of emotion. You wouldn't laugh, you wouldn't cry, you wouldn't feel happy nor sad.
But this is boring as fuck man.
And guess what, we humans like to complicate things a little bit, we like to have these things called emotions. Y'know, just to make life more interesting, even though it might get us more depressed, but the moments of happiness are moments that we celebrate hugely.
So fear of death is ok, because we decided to have emotions.
But guess what, life is much more simple than what we all make it to be. If we realise this, and understand how ridiculous and pointless life is, and how absurd are our existances, then why fear of death? That's pointless.
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