Fullmetal Alchemist - WARNING! SPOILERS!

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[Sam]

#1 February 01, 2008, 07:44:17 pm

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OK, so I'm up to chapter 79, which I believe is the same point that our Japanese friends are currently up to. (Yay scanlations)

This topic is for all brands of conversation about the Fullmetal Alchemist manga, not the anime, and it will contain spoilers.

So, anyway, 79's done and it seems Marcoh is dead. I'm assuming that with the amount of damage Marcoh took in that fight, and with the way Scar stood over him to say he'd won that Marcoh won't be waking up. In the meantime, Envy isn't dead - instead it's reverted to being this odd, tiny organism resembling something from a Metroid game. Which is odd because Lust died the second her Philosopher's Stone was destroyed. Envy's was destroyed by Marcoh and yet it's still seemingly alive as this... thing.

At the same time you have to wonder what exactly has become of Ed. We last saw him being carried away by the two chimeras who defected from Kimbley and haven't heard anything about our main character since.

What are your views?

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Dale Gobbler

#2 February 01, 2008, 08:48:23 pm

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Never bothered to read the manga, just watched the episodes and (God why the hell was this even made) the aweful movie. So does the manga differ from the anime in some way? Such as continuing past where the anime ended, or adding more fluff to it or what.

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[Sam]

#3 February 01, 2008, 09:03:23 pm

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The anime finished early because the studio couldn't wait for the manga to end. So they took the anime, which was roughly following the manga but still pissing all over it, and made their own ending and then produced Conqueror of Shambala to finish things off.

The manga is a lot deeper, a fair bit darker, and a lot longer, it's still going, being released a chapter a month in Japan. I would seriously reccomend the manga as I feel the anime doesn;t do it justice.

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spacelion

#4 February 01, 2008, 09:27:33 pm

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At around episode 25 is where the story begins major deviation from the manga. There's a plethora of different (and much more interesting) characters in the manga, and the story is much better, as well.
I love the FMA manga and I can't seem to find anywhere to download newer chapters, though. I stopped around 70, I think, where Sloth shows up.

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Ephiam

#5 February 01, 2008, 09:47:56 pm

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Spacelion, why don't you just read them online? Just go somewhere like Onemanga.com . They have all the chapters up to the latest one (along with a multitude of other Manga).

Anyway, I found FMA to be a truly great series. Definitly a must watch. It's story, it's characters, the music...it's all so good. I'm trying to buy all of the Manga, but I can't seem to find the beginning few volumes.

Check out Eternal Paradise, my latest RPG Maker 2003 project, over at RMN!
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[Sam]

#6 February 01, 2008, 09:51:07 pm

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I PMed SpaceLion a link to the place I use for my chapters.

As for the first few volumes... Amazon?

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Nessiah

#7 February 01, 2008, 09:55:49 pm

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I have some FMA mangas here before, sadly they were eradicated during the HD crash.
I miss them and reading them online makes me sad

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I like the anime, but the manga is definitely better, and darker *_* I don't even know why I said I like the anime at first x.x
I wonder who THE FATHER is

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[Sam]

#8 February 01, 2008, 10:12:54 pm

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Father created the homunculi as most people here know, but it was recently revealed that he began his life as an entity in a jar. In the Xerxes region (the one that was destroyed when the last philosopher's stone was made). Hohenheim started life as a slave in the same place as this entity was kept. Father, in entity form, introduced himself to Hohenheim, gave him his name and taught him to read, write, and even taught him alchemy.

Eventually, the king of Xerxes wanted to know how to attain immortality, so the entity had him task his people with creating the giant transmutation circle. Everyone in Xerxes bar Hohenheim was killed, and Father took on Hohenheim's physical form, which is why they look the same. Hohenheim's 'monster' inside him, is actually part of Father, Hohenheim is by no means a homunculus, but he's not mortal either.

That's as much as has been revealed.

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Swordfish

#9 February 03, 2008, 07:46:02 pm

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So what manga chapter coincides with FMA anime 25 so i can pick it up and read it without having to go from the beginning?

EDIT: nvm, ill just read from chapter 25, seams to be ok so meh :P

Last Edit: February 03, 2008, 07:49:11 pm by Swordfish

RIP DoktorMartini

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spacelion

#10 February 04, 2008, 01:51:19 am

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Just read from the begining, the whole thing is vastly different overall. :P

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Dale Gobbler

#11 February 04, 2008, 01:55:48 am

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Sweet, I was so sad when the anime ended and I wanted more.

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WarV

#12 February 04, 2008, 06:36:08 am

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Yes, I thought the anime was great, but then I read the mange and found out that the anime was not so great after all. Alot of things seems to make more sense in the mange then they did in the anime.

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Dale Gobbler

#13 February 11, 2008, 11:11:49 pm

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Ok, I've read the first 4 volumes of the manga and I'm kind of disappointed. Sure the manga added a little bit more back story, but not enough to make up for the lack of story.

Mainly: didn't have the Barry the chopper back story, didn't have the Slicer brothers wanting to die and one of them killing themselves (adds more to how Al is feeling), Had Tucker dying?! Wtf, didn't have the fake Elric Brothers (I think they were pretty early in the Anime), didn't show the scene of Greed becoming free when the 5th Lab fell, didn't show Envy "coming back to life" as the priest and showing everyone that he was alive and turning the dead birds back to life, didn't show Rose's boyfriend in the first episode, didn't have Ed talking with General Grahn as he died, didn't have Scar coming to "save" Al from Barry's armor, Scar seems much more evil and almost diabolical in the manga, I'm probably missing more but you get my point. Also, keep in mind that I'm only half way through Volume 4 and it has this many changes

Now maybe some of the things I listed were for filler, but they still added much more to the story.

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yamata no orochi

#14 February 12, 2008, 01:05:11 am

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Don't worry.

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Barry the Chopper proves to be quite important in later volumes, and he's developed a bit more. Keep reading--the beginning is comparable in scope to the manga, but around the end of volume seven, the plot takes a completely different direction and around volume ten, the stakes are multiplied by around a hundred...

Besides, Envy bringing the birds back to life in the second episode of Fullmetal Alchemist is a plothole, anyway. Homunculi can't use alchemy, remember?

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spacelion

#15 February 14, 2008, 07:58:07 am

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Aztec, everything you listed is a bunch of filler that has nothing to do with the overall story at all, pretty much.

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Dale Gobbler

#16 February 14, 2008, 03:12:34 pm

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But those things I listed added so much more feeling to the story, so IMO it adds a lot to the way the story unfolds. So, so far, the Anime > Manga. Hopefully it'll get better by Volume 7, but they way yamata worded it kind of confused me. "but around the end of volume seven, the plot takes a completely different direction" So it goes in a different direction from the anime? I guess it couldn't be a bad thing, because if it was exactly the same as the anime it wouldn't be worth reading (for me anyway). So I'll have to see where it goes. But still all those things I listed added more feeling to the story, and having experienced them through the anime and then taken away in the manga kinda disappoints me.

Last Edit: February 14, 2008, 03:14:50 pm by Aztec

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WarV

#17 February 14, 2008, 09:40:23 pm

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Quote from: Aztec on February 14, 2008, 03:12:34 pm

But those things I listed added so much more feeling to the story, so IMO it adds a lot to the way the story unfolds. So, so far, the Anime > Manga. Hopefully it'll get better by Volume 7, but they way yamata worded it kind of confused me. "but around the end of volume seven, the plot takes a completely different direction" So it goes in a different direction from the anime? I guess it couldn't be a bad thing, because if it was exactly the same as the anime it wouldn't be worth reading (for me anyway). So I'll have to see where it goes. But still all those things I listed added more feeling to the story, and having experienced them through the anime and then taken away in the manga kinda disappoints me.

I don't think your 100% getting it. Its the anime that goes away from the manga. The Manga was first so those fillers were added to the story. Its not like they were taken away, they where never there in the first place.

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Dale Gobbler

#18 February 14, 2008, 09:54:27 pm

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No, that's the thing, I do get it. I know the manga was first >_>, But because I watched the Anime long before I read the Manga it feels like the story is watered down to me so far. So, again IMO, the Anime > Manga so far. So I'll just keep reading and see how it turns out, maybe I'll change my opinion after I've read farther along.

EDIT: Sorry if I came off as harsh, but the previous posts I made are from my perspective.

Last Edit: February 14, 2008, 10:02:58 pm by Aztec

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MysteriousWanderer

#19 February 14, 2008, 11:11:38 pm

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Marcoh didn't even die by the way.

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Ohlichris

#20 February 14, 2008, 11:24:24 pm

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Well it is a monthly manga, meaning the pace might be a bit quicker. Take 666 Satan for example (it's featured on the same magazine as FMA by the way): Lot's of people agree that the last chapters went to fast story-wise.

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