man that trailer was awful

serious? after all the slow-motion/hype trailers they've been spewing out this was a nice change. you know, with actual content.

it doesn't count if the actual content is bad

lol I was waiting for that one.

Fuck Alan Moore dude, this movie is going to kick ass.
Just because it won't be AS AWESOME as you think the book was, doesn't mean it's complete garbage.

But if you look around the different forums, Watchmen is a lot more coveted than the other comic books, so of course there are going to be people upset. I'm not surprised to hear the whole "you guys don't understand watchmen" thing again, but this movie will likely generate interest in the book, so at least you'll get to be one of the OG's right?

it's "complete garbage" for entirely different reasons but yes FUCK ALAN MOORE for not wanting his comic needlessly turned into shit to turn a buck off of vapid nerds like you who think this is good or even watchable.  but yes thank you for presuming that the reason we think it will be bad is because we like the comic books and are just OVERLY SENSITIVE NERDS and that we're saying "you just don't understand" because we are elitists and heh.... you just dont get it pal.  or it could be that, you know, we think it'll be bad because it looks like a poorly acted piece of shit action movie which isn't anything like the comic book at all; it could also be that we are saying you don't understand the book because if you did you wouldn't think that some cheeseball superhero movie is a good idea when even alan moore himself says that it shouldn't be adapted because it doesn't make sense out of the context of a comic.  as in, that is kind of the fucking point and it being a movie to begin with is a terrible idea because the concept itself is based around the medium being a comic.

man it is funny eric, you are such a one-note guy about this stuff.  no matter what worthless piece of trash comes along, the second someone like steel or i criticizes it for being bad in ways that anyone who is even remotely intelligent could see, you come along and reduce the entire critique to "heh im elitist" or "heh i dont like anything mainstream *listens to underground music to appear unique and interesting*" despite the fact that it is rarely even close to what anyone in the topic has said.  you are one of the worst goddamn judges of character i have ever seen and i am completely serious when i say that your reading comprehension skills are fucking shameful.  i have never encountered someone who could so consistently COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT of everything.  if there was some kind of process someone with an extremely shallow capacity for thought and observation could go through to get better, right now i would be the time that i would suggest you do that.

What the fuck dude, I didn't say anything about you being elitist!!! Did you guys like peg me an outsider or something because every time I post it's one of you guys after me!
I seriously don't know why you hate my guts so much, you really don't know anything about me other than 2-3 sentence comments, you DEFINITELY don't know my reading comprehension lol. I'm seriously trying really hard to get on your good side and you are coming at me for what seems like nothing.

To defend myself, obviously it's not like I hate Alan Moore, but the guy is pretty out there, and to say "when he wrote it, he wasn't thinking about a movie, SO NO MOVIE," is too strong! Give it a chance! I don't know about you, but I've been trying to keep up with this movie, the video blogs, set visits, all that nonsense, and IMO, it looks great. The director has SAID there will be more action, just because it is a movie. I agree that the acting in that trailer is bad, the voices for Dr. Manhattan and Rorschach not so great, but I appreciate that it isn't the book, and did like the book, so I welcome the movie! Watchmen is probably lucky to have Zack Snyder in some ways, because there probably aren't many other directors out there that would respect the source material so much! (Not counting the ending change...)



But yea dude, I don't recall ever even using the word elitist, and other than you trying to insult me all of the time I have no problem with you!

I have no problem explaining myself; if you disagree I'd be glad to give my full opinions, but I tend to write huge paragraphs and think they are too long and delete them and sum things up. I'd definitely rather argue real opinions than sling personal attacks at someone...



About Watchmen being a parody: this is true in the book.
Obviously parallels with Superman, Batman, and the thing about the replaced superheroes (Nite Owl II). Actually my favorite is the "35 minutes ago" comment about villains.
Watching the trailer for this movie, it's not so obvious. It may not even be such a theme in the movie, rather the movie rely on the actual plot. I guess if you instantly dislike of the movie for that reason I understand, but I'm sure no one here has seen it yet!
Consistently though, there is NO way to transmit everything from a book into a movie, and aside from just being a money maker, the movie will also generate book sales! I can't imagine anyone who likes the book wouldn't want other people to like it too?

As for Watchmen not being adaptable to film, I disagree. Obviously parts of it will not translate: sections of Rorschach's monologue, Mason's book, etc... But optimistically, none of the comic movies were meant to be films. Spiderman, for instance, had to be updated for movies by having webbing come from his body. Back whenever Spidey was made, web canisters were beyond impossible. Now that we are further in science, it wouldn't even be believable.
Things like this can be updated, for instance our better knowledge of nuclear weapons, in relation to the cold war aspect of watchmen. I don't believe it could be completely bad, even if it were an unfaithful adaptation!

What the fuck dude, I didn't say anything about you being elitist!!! Did you guys like peg me an outsider or something because every time I post it's one of you guys after me!
I seriously don't know why you hate my guts so much, you really don't know anything about me other than 2-3 sentence comments, you DEFINITELY don't know my reading comprehension lol. I'm seriously trying really hard to get on your good side and you are coming at me for what seems like nothing.

it is because you and a few others do this thing where you frequently come into topics of various sorts involving things like this or matters of TASTE in general and oversimplify people's views to squeeze them into some one-dimensional archetype like KID WHO DOESNT LIKE POPULAR SHIT and it is incredibly insulting because that's not what gw is at all, ever, and while you are right about my not knowing you, if you do think this is what it is (again you are part of a pack of 3-4 people who do this shit) then your reading comprehension skills are very clearly low, because no one would ever come to this type of conclusion if they had understood the posts.  if you want to get on my "good side" or whatever then you can maybe stop acting like all of our negative opinions of garbage like transformers are a direct result of us going against the grain.

also respecting the source material does not matter if you do not respect the context or the tone.  it is the LEAST important thing.  the fact of the matter is, as harry kind of said, watchmen is a commentary on superhero comics in the form of a superhero comic.  outside of the medium, it literally makes no sense.  that is why this movie is just A SUPERHERO MOVIE now.  the entire point has been lost so i couldn't give any less of a shit if it is factually faithful or whatever.  that doesn't mean it'll be intellectually faithful and that is far more significant imo.  watchmen as a concept is defined by the medium it was created in and loses all meaning outside of it; even moore himself says this, and it is clearly not something these people respect.  so it is an oversimplification to say that because alan moore wrote it as a comic it means no movie ever.  that's not why there shouldn't be a movie.  also zack snyder is a hack who makes nothing but drivel and there's no indication from either of the trailers i've seen that this will be any different.  it's just another crowd pleaser to appeal to the same apes who thought 300 was good.