'Watchmen' movie... and videogame...

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helter skelter

#161 December 27, 2008, 04:44:56 pm

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Alan Moore is a druid.

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Mongoloid

#162 December 27, 2008, 10:53:48 pm

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Yea what this really means is Warner Brothers is run by a pack of wild idiots. The more they try, the more apparent it is that The Dark Knight was a fluke.

Obviously they won't let Fox just block this movie's release, and Fox probably doesn't want that either. Fox will just demand some ridiculous percentage and Warner Bros won't learn anything.

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Finality

#163 December 31, 2008, 05:06:15 pm

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Quote from: Mongoloid on December 27, 2008, 10:53:48 pm

Yea what this really means is Warner Brothers is run by a pack of wild idiots. The more they try, the more apparent it is that The Dark Knight was a fluke.

The Dark Knight had nothing to do Warner Brothers, just take a look at Batman & Robin. They threw in big names (not necessarily good actors), shitty script, and hoped the general public would eat it up. The Dark Knight was all the production team, primarily Christopher Nolan. The guy writes and directs great movies, Memento and The Prestige being prime examples. He finally is being recognized in Hollywood for his talent and I'm all for it.

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#164 December 31, 2008, 05:56:55 pm

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Quote from: Finality on December 31, 2008, 05:06:15 pm

The Dark Knight had nothing to do Warner Brothers, just take a look at Batman & Robin. They threw in big names (not necessarily good actors), shitty script, and hoped the general public would eat it up. The Dark Knight was all the production team, primarily Christopher Nolan. The guy writes and directs great movies, Memento and The Prestige being prime examples. He finally is being recognized in Hollywood for his talent and I'm all for it.

I agree with this post to such an incredible degree.
Although, I do believe Christian Bale and Michael Caine were choices made by Chris Nolan himself (as he likes using the two of them... look at The Prestige!)

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The Dude

#165 December 31, 2008, 09:36:25 pm

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I'm currently reading the Watchmen graphic novel for the first time; everyone says it's the best thing ever.
...It's alright. Would have enjoyed it without the pirate comic a bit more. Understand why the comic is there, but eh... Whenever I see a page full of that, it ticks into a boredom section. But whatever, it's overall a good read, and it's given me some insight as to the difference between graphic novel and comic book.

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pburn

#166 December 31, 2008, 09:40:32 pm

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Nah, Watchmen is a comic book. The whole GRAPHIC NOVEL vs COMIC BOOK thing is p ridiculous anyway.

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The Dude

#167 December 31, 2008, 10:33:27 pm

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Then what's the difference? I thought it was a comic book while reading, but a guy today told me it's a graphic novel. (I have the whole collection of chapters in one volume, if that helps explain it.)

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#168 December 31, 2008, 10:43:22 pm

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Graphic Novel can refer to comic books published in collected volumes or comic books originally published in book-form.
Graphic Novel is also a term used by elitists to help themselves believe their comics are better than Marvel Super Hero Team-Up #34 or whatever.

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#169 January 01, 2009, 01:43:28 am

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:3

Sounds good! Thanks for clearing that up.
I hope in the videogame I can change Nite Owl costumes.

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Mongoloid

#170 January 02, 2009, 11:15:05 am

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Quote from: Finality on December 31, 2008, 05:06:15 pm

The Dark Knight had nothing to do Warner Brothers, just take a look at Batman & Robin. They threw in big names (not necessarily good actors), shitty script, and hoped the general public would eat it up. The Dark Knight was all the production team, primarily Christopher Nolan. The guy writes and directs great movies, Memento and The Prestige being prime examples. He finally is being recognized in Hollywood for his talent and I'm all for it.

Warner Bros produced and distributed TDK. What I meant was Warner Bros/DC is lucky as all hell that The Dark Knight was so successful. Not that Nolan isn't a great director, he's solely responsible for Warner/DC still being a part of the hero-flicks phase going on, but obviously Batman Begins wasn't a hit like that.

Anywho, the trial is I think Jan 20th, and last I read Fox's attorney reported that they were going to attempt to block the release, so I think we can expect this to either move to pay up to Fox, or not come out at all. IIRC there was something like this that happened to a Fantastic Four movie back in the 80s-90s.

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#171 January 02, 2009, 12:26:45 pm

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Quote from: Mongoloid on December 18, 2008, 09:52:35 am

I skipped over the Black Freighter the first time I read it, cause I just couldn't get myself interested in it. Of course when I got to the artist painting, I was pretty confused. If they end up doing the Black Freighter cartoon, I'm curious what significance it'll have, since the ending has effectively been changed.

Anyway, the Watchmen court date has been pushed back to Jan. 20th. The judge apparently has a criminal matter to deal with, and refused to give a ruling. This movie might not even come out!

Hey, that's my birthday! What a sweet birthday present it would be if we were rewarded with a release date.

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Mongoloid

#172 January 03, 2009, 06:09:33 am

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Nono, the release date is March 6th. January 20th is when we find out whether Fox stops the movie from being released (on march 6th) or not.

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Fujin

#173 January 03, 2009, 08:15:02 pm

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Watchmen is the best graphic novel I've ever read, and I'm saddened by the fact they made a movie out of it. All films based on Alan Moore's work have been total crap, but they still keep doing this. I wish they'd have some respect for the author and not put these out, but I guess this is how things roll these days. Zack Snyder being the director makes me even less confident about this not being just another terrible comic-to-film adaptation. He may have done well with 300, but Watchmen represents a totally different style. I'm still going to see it, though, but I'm not expecting much.

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Mongoloid

#174 January 03, 2009, 11:39:31 pm

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I'm jazzed for this movie personally, but I don't understand where these negative opinions about Moore's comic to movies come from, and about Snyder.

Out of Moore's books, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was the only movie that I didn't like, and subsequentially bombed. V for Vendetta I thought was great, and I've looked all over the internet and general consensus is that is was at least alright. I think the whole "comic parody" thing is kinda dumb, and the themes would make perfect sense in that hollywood is flooded with Iron Man, Batman, and Spiderman right now.
As for Snyder, I've only seen 300 and the Dawn of the Dead remake. DotD was awesome I think, and I really can't see what people hate about 300, though it's not a favorite of mine or anything. Both of them have good ratings on internet too!

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Fujin

#175 January 04, 2009, 12:32:29 am

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I think the film version of V for Vendetta is a dumbed down version of the source material, turning Moore's story into popcorn entertainment. I've seen Snyder's DotD and 300, and they were entertaining in their own right. However, from what I've gathered out of what I've seen, he doesn't seem like a versatile director. I just can't imagine him directing a film like Watchmen, which focuses heavily on story rather than action.

As for general consensus, I couldn't care less.

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#176 January 06, 2009, 05:22:06 am

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I don't think the movie will be like, as indepth as the graphic novel; since half the information was gathered in the literature after each chapter, or in the flashback sequences... If it's merely about the Here and Now of the 'current' gen of heroes, then the movie will be a little hard to swallow. We'll see just how much info they can squeeze into a few hours of film without losing the audience.

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Evangel

#177 January 21, 2009, 05:42:01 am

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The only difference I think of between a comic book and a graphic novel is that a comic usually has no definite ending, just new villains and dilemmas, whereas a graphic novel has a a more planned out beginning, middle, and end, even if it is released in separate volumes. I don't think of it as reflecting on the depth or maturity of the book.

I don't see the original plot of the Watchmen translating well into a movie at all, being a meta-comic or what-have-you, on top of the volume of information required to even halfway appreciate the plot. Instead, we'll most definitely see a watered-down action-and-suspense-oriented movie. I have realistic expectations for it as far as the faithfulness to the book. I'm just really interested in the portrayal of the characters. I've got two free movie passes devoted to this film (if it ever gets released).

Speaking of which, the trial began today, right? Have any conclusions been reached yet?

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Mongoloid

#178 January 21, 2009, 06:05:34 am

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Yea actually the trial didn't happen.

I wasn't going to bump this topic cause afaik I'm the only one here really following it, but they reached a settlement last week. Fox is taking a shitload of money, and a fat percentage of the box office, and Warner Bros gets to release the movie.

Yay!

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#179 January 21, 2009, 10:36:40 pm

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Quote from: Evangel on January 21, 2009, 05:42:01 am

The only difference I think of between a comic book and a graphic novel is that a comic usually has no definite ending, just new villains and dilemmas, whereas a graphic novel has a a more planned out beginning, middle, and end, even if it is released in separate volumes. I don't think of it as reflecting on the depth or maturity of the book.

There is no difference!

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Evangel

#180 January 25, 2009, 10:00:52 pm

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Quote from: Psyburn on January 21, 2009, 10:36:40 pm

There is no difference!

YOU DON' KNOW!!

keep posting...

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