lmao.

the real lmao is this is you three years ago

like dude technology wears out. people CAN'T just sit and be complacent and amazed at every single thing that happens to them. its not productive! society as a whole, including art and storytelling, would not evolve if everyone was just like "well i guess it was GOOD ENOUGH" (which seems to be your argument here but i can't really tell because you have no command of coherency)

You cannot deny that we take too much for granted these days. That said, you can't really blame 'Generation X' because we were born into this age of convenience, and any lapse in quality or service is bound to disappoint. However, we consume and criticise without taking the time to consider just how much hardship went into providing us with the meat that we mock.

Nipples on the Batsuit? Changing the name of the 'Crimebusters' to the 'Watchmen'? Why are these things important? They're not, in the slightest. This isn't criticism, it's cynicism; which in its nature is often baseless and born of suspicion and speculation.

You say society would not evolve if everyone sat-back and remained content, but I'm of the belief that public opinion is more of a hindrance to such progression than complacency. The reason is evident in this topic. None of you explained exactly what was wrong with Batman & Robin. You all stated that it was poorly-made, but didn't point to any examples of these technical flaws. I listed three clear reasons why I thought the aforementioned film was a greater accomplishment than The Dark Knight, even though that film is excellent in its own right (but like B&R, isn't without its flaws).

I'll say it again: if you didn't enjoy the film, then fair enough. By all means express your opinion in a manner that acknowledges its subjectivity, but don't trespass on mine.

Amid the chaos of a fierce debate my arguements do tend to lapse into incoherence. I hope I've made my point a little clearer.

the real lmao is this is you three years ago

I've never done anything as idiotic as the 'joning' of Avril Lavigne that he partook in around this time. If you're equating the person I am now to who that person was back then, I cannot take you at all seriously.

In fact, given the shallowness of many of the responses I've received in this topic, I'm struggling to maintain even a level of base respect for the majority of you.

What I really want to see is the reaction of the people that will go see it thinking it's a normal hero movie.

This is the reason why I want to see it with a passive audience. It's either going to completely baffle them, or totally blow them away. 

that was actually obviously directed towards him because he is like lmao now but a few years back he was like DRINKING....EW.  lil thing we call "irony" there for ya.  as for you, i couldn't care less.  by the time you even get far enough off the mark that you're intellectualizing a claim that episodes 1/2/3 are better than the originals, there's probably nothing that can be said to convince either side that the other isn't insane.  it is like talking to a guy who thinks that shit tastes great about food.  there isn't even enough common ground here to have a constructive discussion about this; clearly we have fundamentally different perspectives on what the word GOOD means.  idk why they're wasting their time with you

that was actually obviously directed towards him because he is like lmao now but a few years back he was like DRINKING....EW.  lil thing we call "irony" there for ya.  as for you, i couldn't care less.  by the time you even get far enough off the mark that you're intellectualizing a claim that episodes 1/2/3 are better than the originals, there's probably nothing that can be said to convince either side that the other isn't insane.  it is like talking to a guy who thinks that shit tastes great about food.  there isn't even enough common ground here to have a constructive discussion about this; clearly we have fundamentally different perspectives on what the word GOOD means.  idk why they're wasting their time with you

My apologies; I take that previous comment back. I thought you were referring to the way in which I 'read' into films.

And you make a good point. I'll desist.

OK BACK ON WATCHMEN

Just came back from an advance screening (apparently FIRST IN THE WORLD... well) and loved it. Certainly dragged a bit in parts, but holy shit it was a good adaptation of the graphic novel. Worked on its own as a film and as an adaptation. There is a lot of dong tho. Like, I didn't really think about it but there is a lot of Manhattan's glowing blue dong.

Seriously tho, well worth the wait.

THEY KEPT THE PENIS  Alan Moore's vision has seen fruition.  Seriously, I'm glad to hear the movie wasn't a pile of crapshit and fuckyou I can't see it until Friday.

OddButInteresting, where did you come from?  You just increased your post-count 20% arguing the finer points of Batman and Robin.  I'm not complaining, I think it's kind of awesome.  Did somebody strike a nerve with you?

that wsa some hilarious comix

My Chemical Romance covering Bob Dylan!?!?!  I think I just cummed.