I did, I assaulted him with words. I hit the strings....

What the hell did they do to the music? The trailer music was alright why the hell did they do that?

fuck with the nerds

who makes these watchmen parody comics?

that is a fucking awful line. is that really in the book? ugh. I would have winced if it was, and I don't remember wincing.

Yup. I distinctly recall an abbatoir-related line in Rorschach's journal. I quite like the sound of it: it conjures a rather vague but really fucked-up image. Also, remember that Rorschach isn't a particularly skilled writer or orator; by his own admission, at one point in the comic.

Or they are going to take it for face value (see: director) and I will feel endless shame for endorsing a film based on the source material alone and not by any of the film's actual merits.

Well, having read the comic again fairly recently, I'm going to find it pretty difficult to remain neutral when the curtain goes-up and the flick starts to roll. I'll probably just be sat there quietly giggling at every little reference. Thankfully I'm going to see it with the guy who introduced me to the comic in the first place, so I shouldn't feel like a complete prat.

OddButInteresting, where did you come from?  You just increased your post-count 20% arguing the finer points of Batman and Robin.  I'm not complaining, I think it's kind of awesome.  Did somebody strike a nerve with you?

I'm a regular lurker, but occassionally I come-out of hiding to dispense pearls/shitpebbles of wisdom/inanity. Once I get engaged in something I find it hard to stop 'til business is finished. Add to that my tendency to write at painstaking length. My keyboard's taken a real thrashing this past day or so.

i'm seriously hoping that was a fakepost because that soundtrack helped cement me not going to see this movie in theaters.

Have you heard any of Tyler Bates' original score?

http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

Although it's been released, there are samples of it on the official site's character pages. I'm particularly fond of the track on Manhattan's page (titled 'You Quit' on the actual soundtrack. So I'm assuming it plays when Rorschach leaves Dan's basement earlier on).

By the way: I saw a monochromatic WIP of that Alan Moore strip a few days ago, but it's great to see the completed version. I especially like the mural of Glycon in the background  ​.

Reviewers of the soundtrack have noted that the music doesn't hold-up that well on its own, but it complements the overall atmosphere of the scenes in which it features.

I think it's unfair to call Bates an awful composer, or label his music emotionless. I thought you, as an aspiring film-maker, would recognise this before most people, Psyburn.   

how does being an aspiring film-maker affect someone's decision on whether the music is awful or not

I was just saying that he's more likely to acknowledge the difference between good music (in its own right), and a good film score. Good music, very much like good writing, needs to try a little bit harder to elicit a reaction from the recipient ("showing" not "telling": try randomly punching someone who clearly isn't listening to you; it's guaranteed that you'll grab their attention). Film scripts and film scores, on the other hand, are merely singular elements in a larger piece that all contribute in some way to the complete effect.

In music, the product itself is often created in a similarly synergetic fashion. Remove the guitar segments from 'November Rain' or another classic rock song, and what do you have?   

If the score sucks, it sucks.

Again, you say this, but I felt that Bates' score was the best thing about 300; it gives the testosterone-fuelled action scenes that extra kick. I can't say I was that moved by the rest of the film. Sure, it looks great, but it wasn't that exciting or entertaining, in my opinion.

this reminds me of when in highschool i told a libertarian i didn't like atlas shrugged and he lectured me like this

I'm all for people expressing their opinions, and I'm happy to hear them. But if I'm subjected to something along the lines of "It's shit, and you're an idiot if you don't think so too" I tend to get a wee bit vexed, especially if it's coming from someone who clearly hasn't given it much thought, or at least considered all sides of the arguement.

A simple "I enjoyed it"/"I didn't enjoy it" will suffice. Simple as they sound, I regard them as much more intelligent responses than "What a pile of horse shit! I couldn't tell you why, but it was shit... so there!... What? You actually ENJOYED that shit?! You must be a moron; there's no other possible reason for it because that film was clearly SHIT!" 

Man it seems to me like you've become a film industry tool. I wasn't going to say this until I was sure but after a bunch of your comments and the last one you said about psyburn, well....yep.

Nah, I'm not an industry "plant", as they're known. I just love cinema. I devote a great deal of my thinking to film, literature, etc... In some ways, as sociable as I am, I find "art" much easier to relate to than people.

But despite my appreciation of films that are condemned by the majority, there are plenty of films that I haven't enjoyed, including many that are considered classics.

The Godfather, for example, bored the crap out of me. I didn't find it at all interesting. That's not to say that it wasn't well-made; it just failed to entertain or inspire me. Same goes for Taxi Driver: I felt Fincher did a better job conveying similar messages with Fight Club.

The audience was all like GIGGLE, IT'S A PENIS. whenever it appeared on screen.


sigh.

Hahaha, this didn't happen at the cinema I was in. What was noticeable about his penis was that it was like twice as long as in the novel. I think the only part the audience laughed at was when Dreiberg can't get it up, all the guys in the cinema laughed at him.

I think for my opinion on the movie, I thought it was pretty good as an adaption. To be honest I wanted it to be more faithful, but I knew that wasn't going to happen. Also the major sex scene was ridiculously long, something I think Mr. Snyder seems to like doing (re 300). Other than that it was really good.

Also, what stood out the most as being awesome was Rorschachs first journal entry. I had just read the first chapter again before I saw the movie, and that entry in the movie was pretty much word for word.

Going to see this tonight.   I really don't like midnight showings because of all the people shouting when their favorite characters come on screen, and it just generally ruining the atmosphere.  But what the hell.

Gracias for the annotated Watchmen, whoever posted that.  There are so many little details that I've missed, it's amazing.  This is the first work of Moore's that I've read; someone more familiar with him suggest something else of his to me?  I'm thinking of Lost Girls, since Gaiman mentioned that one a few times, but I haven't a clue where to go from there. 

that is a fucking awful line. is that really in the book? ugh. I would have winced if it was, and I don't remember wincing.
just looked, it is. rorshach says it shortly before enterting harry's bar. haha.

sounds to me like a throwback to those monologues at the beginning of those noir detective books and tv shows.  Rorschach always reminded me of a sober Assy McGee.

I'm seeing this movie in about 3 hours, woooooot.  I hope we get some cosplayers.  I REALLY want to see a Rorschach impersonator.

9. Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)

That is just so delightfully hacky.

I probably shouldn't but... Yeah: