Topic: 'Watchmen' movie... and videogame... (Read 29861 times)

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The sad thing is that this is what most people who didn't know better thought the movie would be like before seeing it.

Which I saw btw.

Rorschach was spot on.

The rest was really hit or miss with me. They Michael Bayed the roof top rescue... though arguably worse was the extended sex scene that came afterwards (which is where Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah comes in). There where a few other alterations that I felt was in bad taste.. though oddly enough I thought the ending did a much better job in conveying the message than the original one did. All in all though I couldn't help but feel disappointed in the direction they took. I was definitely more excited about the movie before I saw it than afterward. They nailed the action and effects (which was never the point!?!)... but the story fell short in several places while dragging on in others.

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Wow Chainer those are like my exact words. Rorschach really couldn't have been any better. I don't believe there is an actor out there that could've done it better than it is. I agree about the ending though too! In the book after Adrian explains his plan the rest of them just kind of accept it and give a few sobs, but in the movie they really express "wow ozymandias, you may be right, but you are a TOTAL dick."

There were a few things I didn't like, especially the way they handled Dan+Laurie. The scene where Dan can't get it up was not obvious enough and a TON of people in my theatre burst out laughing because they thought he was pre-jaculating. I felt like a total asshole for wanting to stand up and say "wait guys, that's not what it looks like." Also, I knew the Black Freighter wouldn't be in the movie, but the News-stand guy and the comic kid don't have any audible lines in the movie.
Btw, I don't remember Nixon in the novel, does he even speak? Well there's maybe 10 minutes of him spread about the movie, and it's excruciating. The actor playing him is terrible, and the fake nose they put on him is ENORMOUS.

The soundtrack wasn't too bad, but there were a few moments, (the hallelujah thing, people also thought this was hilarious), where the soundtrack drew more attention than the scenes.

I really enjoyed it and I'm going to see it again on Sunday. What I liked most about it probably, is that the entire movie has this epic feel, even during the dull scenes between Laurie-Sally and the like. Apparently there were a bunch of people who got up and left but I never noticed because the movie had me glued to the screen the whole time. I'd give it at least an 8.
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Wow, this movie really blew my expectations out of the water.  I just thought it was amazing how much they covered in (relatively) so little time.  Sure, there was a lot of exaggeration as far as the action and sex scenes, and some of the soundtrack was gaudy, but I thought it was very well done, and coherent at the same time.

I agree on Rorschach, his constant one-liners were pulled off in a pretty awesome way.  Dude had me laughing throughout the entire movie. 
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Hey also, the slow motion stuff that I thought was over the top in the trailers, is kept pretty well in check. For the most part I didn't even notice it!
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Saw it.  Rather than compare it to the source, I tried to review it as an original film.

It was decent.  Somewhere above average but a lot of pacing issues dragged it down.  I was impressed by the way they handled the montages especially opening title sequence where they show all masked adventurers... anyone else catch Hooded Justice and Dollar Bill lovingly touching each other off to the side???  However, most of the film was flashbacks with voice narratives and the actual plot itself was paper thin.

Again, it's hard to judge this film on the merits of a film and not being based on an original property.  The cold war is the heart of the story, the human condition is what drives it and yet everything just "falls into place."  There's very little struggle between the characters because everything happens so quickly.

I forgot where I read it but I think the original guy they asked to direct the movie said it would have worked better as a 10 episode mini-series and I agree.  The movie was essentially a trailer for the 3+ hour long DVD release which will probably be leagues better.
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actually as soon as i wake up i'll probably forget the movie entirely and think it was shit. 
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Just got back from the midnight showing.  

I'm going to add to the chorus here.  Rorschach was indeed, spot on.  I didn't care for the mask much, how they made it a constant shifting stain, rather than liquid, but.  I didn't like Laurie much; maybe the actor, maybe the character, I'm not sure what it was, but something about her just seemed childish and egocentric.  And though I thought the ending was more to the point when it came to the message, I didn't care for it as much.  The monster was something that I didn't suspect, using Manhattan as a scapegoat was formulaic.  

I really didn't care for the slow down, or that the characters could punch through walls and break countertops.  Adrian doing some of the stuff he did in the graphic novel was almost pushing it, but in the first few minutes of the movie, the Comedian punches through the wall, and Adrian slams his head against the counter, breaking a large slab of it off, just seconds before the high-speed knife fight.  Or when Dan and Laurie get attacked by the thugs in the alley.  The violence was over the top, even for what it depicted in the graphic novel.  

(The scene where it plays 'Hallelujah' was cheesy as all hell.)

It was a good movie over-all though.  

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also don't read lost girls yet. what aspect of watchmen appealed to you most? if you liked the plotting, reading something like top 10 or his brilliant run on swamp thing is a great bet. if you liked....art.....from hell or league or something along those lines. v for vendetta is way better than the movie.

I liked the plot a lot.  I've heard good things about Swamp Thing, so I'll check into that first.  

Why not read Lost Girls yet though?
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guys is v for vendetta good cuz i like graphic novels but uh have NO FUCKIN CLUE where to start sooooooo


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I didn't care for the mask much, how they made it a constant shifting stain, rather than liquid, but.

It's supposed to be a shifting stain in that it's symmetrical like an actual inkblot test.

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Or when Dan and Laurie get attacked by the thugs in the alley.

I agree.  I understand they're guys at the peak of human agility but fffffffff Dan was breaking bones and snapping necks. 

Shit just happened too fast.

Opening
Flashback
5 minutes of plot
30 minute flashback
some plot
double the exposition
hint at more plot
NOPE NOPE EXPOSITION THIS SHIT UP
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After giving it some thought, there are two things that really stood out and I can't get them out of my mind.  They haunt me; they shouldn't have been in the film and they portray their particular characters in a horrible light.

The Comedian

And Rorschach   In the comic he sets the room on fire, gives the guy a hack saw and says "No time to cut the chains."

The scene where Rorschach butchers a guy made me feel uneasy; not because of the violence but because they made it seem Rorschach takes pleasure in killing criminals yet there's nothing in his character that points to you believing this.  When Rorschach snapped in the comic, he became his masked persona but he didn't flip out like a psycho.

Rorschach is a sociopath but he's not completely mental.  As far as the JFK thing went, it just felt... wrong.  Not controversial or sensationally wrong, just completely wrong for the character.
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I've been playing the Watchmen videogame. I don't really care if the creator didn't want the game made, because it's a fun beat-em-up, that's all. You smack groups of enemies with quick or heavy attacks, and pull off combos. Changing enemies during attack is as simple as moving the analog stick. You can also do finishers if you get an enemy near dead, and they can be repetative... but there's definitely enough of them to keep you entertained enough. The only draw back is the blood. When you bash someone there's copious blood, but no physical change in the enemy. This sort of thing reminds me of PlayStation 2... The only graphically nice thing is the comicbook style cut scenes and the too-wet streets during rain.
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there was a softcore porn halfway though the movie.  it was pretty lame.
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lost girls is unlike every graphic novel i've ever read. highly sexual, and it's all about the female characters from old books, and they all have sex and it's really not very erotic and more strange as fuck. don't get into lost girls until you've read more moore so you know what you're getting into.
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some other gripes that suddenly arised

Manhattan and Veidt don't have the one-on-one talk. 

Manhattan telling Spectre that

Finally, Rorschach in the pedophile's house
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nah bro.  it was way cooler with the foot still attached
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I was expecting the audience to gasp during that whole scene but they didn't.  The audience did gasp when the shank guy got the grease in his face and when the fat dude had his arms cut off. 

There was also a group of high school boys that kept giggling every time Manhattan was shown naked.

Seriously... giggling over a fucking CGI penis.  My buddy sitting next to me was like "They put so much detail in the way his wang moves, man" and I'm sitting here like "WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LOOKING!?!?!?"

I'm pretty sure all the nude scenes were digitized.  That smooth, perfect ass couldn't have been Ackerman's.

OH OH the movie 300 plays on one of Veidt's screens and the number 300 is on his door.  THANKS SNYDER NOBODY KNOWS WHO YOU ARE OR YOUR WORK
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Hayter needs to write a MGS script, I think between himself and Snyder, they could pull it off.  I honestly wouldn't mind seeing MGS filmed in this way.
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