Not sure if this is real or not...but the incident took place at around 3PM and this was posted at 12 PM... (I'm hoping it's a time difference thing):

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Disturbing.

I thought I read the guy used a shotgun? Thats defenitly not a shotgun on that pic.

Serious?  You think a guy who shot and killed himself after the shooting would think twice about it if other people had guns?  Really?

In all likelyhood, more people would get hurt.

I'm kind of amazed you quoted a post you didn't read all the way through because I said "At the last debate about this I argued that many people who participate in school shootings kill themselves anyway so the pain of death would not deter them".

I actually go to NIU, a guy I know got shot, he's the male that's still in critical condition at Rockford memorial hospital. Sucks.

That's horrible! I'm sorry to hear about your friend. How are you dealing with things so far?

Also, I really hope that 4chan thing is fake. If it turns out to be true, there's going to be a huge movement toward monitoring website activity and taking each and every claim as true. There's probably hundreds of kids on popular sites every day like MySpace, Facebook, and 4chan who say shit like IM GONNA KILL PEOPLE

They need to have airport-like security at campuses. Annoying? Maybe. Effective? Yes.

impossible to implement without skyrocketing tuitions or other such problems such as the fact that a campus tends to have multiple entrances and wideopen spaces and students outside the university with access to firearms? yes.

It's not unlikely that the next one might be you.

it's definitely unlikely. do you know how probabilities work? being killed in a school shooting is way up on the list of unlikeliness.

Heh. One of my friends brought a bag of loaded bullets to school (he's not psycho, just an idiot) and threw a couple of them against the wall. Luckily none of them went off. One of the staff walked by and picked up one of the bullets and handed it back to him.

On the topic of gun control:

I hope this doesn't come off as some sort of forced or fake altruism, but I am always a little dismayed at how readily people seem to be willing to kill another person. Part of living in this world is that bad things can and do happen, whether caused by humans or not, but I don't think that fact alone justifies killing in self defense. What is particularly baffling to me, is the segment of the population that follows an Abrahamic religion, yet still favors the use of guns in self defense, regardless of the idea that God says don't kill.

Sometimes I wonder, though.

That's horrible! I'm sorry to hear about your friend. How are you dealing with things so far?

Also, I really hope that 4chan thing is fake. If it turns out to be true, there's going to be a huge movement toward monitoring website activity and taking each and every claim as true. There's probably hundreds of kids on popular sites every day like MySpace, Facebook, and 4chan who say shit like IM GONNA KILL PEOPLE

Nah man, its happened so many times before, a couple weeks ago some guy on GameFAQs said he was going to burn a church down, and did it, and there was something on 4chan of a previous killing (i think VT? maybe another one...), etc.

It just gives the site a bit of publicity, bad or good.

Yeah, right. Want to tell that to the people that got shot? I bet they thought it was unlikely too. Any loner around you could snap at any minute and shoot up the school.

holy fuck you retard if someone is below the margin of error as far as possible deaths go, it's incredibly unlikely. THAT IS WHAT UNLIKELY MEANS, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. the people who got shot know this, that is kind of why it is tragic and horrible.

whoa guys 9/11 happened dont work in office buildings.
whoa guys steve irwin got stingrayed dont go in the ocean.
whoa guys on house this one lady died because the wood in her house was infections dont go near trees.
whoa this girl on the internet died when her computer exploded I'm signing off forever.

it's incredibly unlikely and this shit about "oh we need to put up AIRPORT SECURITY MEASURES" is hilarious. yes because crime exists we should install a police state for walking through a campus.

I hope nobody dies because of that.

Yeah, whatever you fucktard. You'll see what I mean when another school shooting similar to this one happens a month from now. When you have a large gathering of people in one area, you're going to need suitable security, otherwise they are just one big target for a possible shooter. If you don't understand that, then you are seriously a faggot (name calling is fun, isn't it?).  Maybe not airport security, but at least the same level that stadiums have.

STADIUMS.

do you not see the difference between monitoring a single area slightly larger the size of a football field with high vantage points and an area the size of your average college (some of which actually have football fields as a very small part of them)?

school shootings are incredibly unlikely. that's the whole fucking point. five school shootings occurred in 2007 (five also occurred in 1997 btw, so it's not like there's this sudden magical increase). FIVE.

FIVE.

new york city alone has 1,200 public schools. hell, let's err INCREDIBLY SMALL and say there are only 100,000 schools (elementary, high, college) in the US. 5 attacks would make .005% of schools susceptible to attack per year.

do I need to explain basic statistics here? it's not likely this will happen TO YOU!!! IN YOUR SCHOOL!!! is there a chance it will happen, of course. there's a chance anything can happen. but of those five killings, three of the five had 5 or less fatalities. one was just a student shooting one person in a high school.

oh and those five weren't from the US alone.

no, it is not likely that security needs to be beefed up on schools because there is an incredibly small, not growing, statistically slim chance of this stuff happening again. for every school shooting you hear about, you don't hear about the hundreds that were stopped.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

my university, NC State, is "2,110 acres on the Raleigh Campus, plus more than 101,000 acres in research and extension farms, forests and facilities throughout the state."

the Carolina Panthers Stadium is 33 acres.

tell me how similar security measures can be put in place on a university with multiple entrances and buildings as would be in a stadium without skyrocketing tuition or some other equally ridiculous measure.

This shit again?

Also, the more and more security we want. The more the government is going to give us. In getting security from the government in that regard, we start to become a police state where 'security' is more of a priority than the rights of the citizens. I just have to shake my head in wonderment about why these things continually happen, and why people keep snapping.

Where is the failure?

Yeah, whatever you fucktard. You'll see what I mean when another school shooting similar to this one happens a month from now. When you have a large gathering of people in one area, you're going to need suitable security, otherwise they are just one big target for a possible shooter. If you don't understand that, then you are seriously a faggot (name calling is fun, isn't it?).  Maybe not airport security, but at least the same level that stadiums have.

I think you might want to go back and complete your statistics part of your 7th grade math class dude. Like the other guy said, 5 in a year. The media is just really hyping it. Yes it's sad and such but IT HAPPENS. Hell I go to Dawson College, I know a lot of people that were right there when Kim Ver Gill came in, they didn't get shot. Although one girl did they get, it doesn't mean there's a lot of chances of this happening to you. You might want to log off your computer because computers can explore or maybe a plane can crash on your house, run run away! Run to the hills, run for your life (sorry I'm listening to that song...)