There is a gigantic hole in the universe.

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Death Gulp

#21 March 09, 2008, 03:43:53 pm

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I don't think it is a portal to another part of the universe, or whatever. That's really cool though. A HUGE area in space with nothing, well even more nothing than the 'nothingness' of space.

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Cheesy Doritos

#22 March 09, 2008, 04:05:42 pm

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Also would this be a result of the universe's expansion, or what?

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Mince Wobley

#23 March 09, 2008, 04:23:06 pm

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Quote from: Cheesy Doritos on March 09, 2008, 04:11:58 am

Wasn't this found several months ago?

Anyway, I don't see how it's amazingly interesting. Maybe I'm missing something... It's just an area with less-than-normal amounts of x, y, and z matter, right?

Yes and I made a topic abou it.

I won't even say that I think there is a problem with scientists's telescopes because apparently you're not supposed to have your own opinions here on GW.

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Alexander Morou

#24 March 09, 2008, 05:14:49 pm

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So this void is 6 x 10²¹ miles long?

That's pretty large. Thankfully it isn't a black hole, because, if I remember correctly, black holes are dense enough that they contain the same amount of matter of earth in a cubic centimeter. I'm sure you can guess what that means if there were a black hole that large (yes it goes without saying it would really suck, but that's a bad pun, correct terminology would be it would really 'pull'.)

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Evangel

#25 March 09, 2008, 05:58:57 pm

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Quote from: Psychoskull on March 09, 2008, 03:28:10 pm

I assume that completely empty space is pretty frequent in the immense gap between galaxies, but that what makes this particular find incredible is that its inside a galaxy.

Well I mean its a potential huge find.
Maybe it really is just a zone where no objects are to be found right now, like that many heavy stars at the fringe of the zone pulled objects away from it, or I don't know, a rogue black hole passed through that zone at one point and dragged everything out of it.

But it also allows for very wild speculation. What if they found out that this... DEAD ZONE was almost a perfect sphere, as if, in it center, there was some sort of mysterious object that repulsed everything away from its radius? That would be an incredible find. Or maybe an object that somehow scrambles the VLA over this area so it returns no readings? Like say some sort of special radiation emitted over a large zone or whatever, by a star in the middle of that zone (so maybe that area actually has a normal amount of matter, but somehow escapes detection)
I wish the article told us more about what they found, like the shape this "nothing" has. Or maybe they themselves couldn't really approximate it or whatever. Im sure a NASA scientist would find my SPECULATIONS pretty silly though!

NASA already knows what's up.

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Carrion Crow

#26 March 09, 2008, 06:53:08 pm

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Anyone else have a farscape moment when reading this?

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#27 March 09, 2008, 07:13:54 pm

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Quote from: Cheesy Doritos on March 09, 2008, 04:05:42 pm

Also would this be a result of the universe's expansion, or what?

Actually universe is shrinking. I read some study about dark matter and blah blah, it looks like everything is pulled together or something like that. They used to think everything is expanding but then there was something in dark matter that made some einstein relativity theories and such go

These news don't really interest me in anyway. So there is even more emptiness in emptiness, great.

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Aten

#28 March 09, 2008, 08:08:31 pm

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Quote from: Psychoskull on March 09, 2008, 03:28:10 pm

Or maybe an object that somehow scrambles the VLA over this area so it returns no readings?

Or maybe its a CLOAKING DEVICE set up by aliens to disguise their planet.....

What? It could happen

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Wil

#29 March 09, 2008, 08:26:59 pm

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The universe is expanding, not shrinking. http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_expansion.html

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Cheesy Doritos

#30 March 09, 2008, 11:13:44 pm

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's expanding, Orange. Entropy and the heat death of the universe and all that.

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Carrion Crow

#31 March 09, 2008, 11:18:01 pm

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Quote from: Cheesy Doritos on March 09, 2008, 11:13:44 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty well informed that it's expanding, Orange. Entropy and the heat death of the universe and all that.

I find it hard to be "sure" about space. I don't know why. Maybe if I go there one day...

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#32 March 09, 2008, 11:27:45 pm

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I love the 'werid shit in space' topics we get ocasionally. There's some absolutely mad stuff in space.

Can somebody compile a list of bonkers things in space?

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Cheesy Doritos

#33 March 09, 2008, 11:48:02 pm

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Why is it hard to be sure? We know plenty of stuff about things we can't reach. You know the sun is hot, but it's not like you're right there, either.

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Von Woofen

#34 March 09, 2008, 11:49:16 pm

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Sometimes I get really excited about physics and astronomy and stuff, but then I always just realize I don't have nearly enough drive to learn all the science so I can answer all my questions I have when I read about things like this, so I generally just ignore them.

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Kaworu

#35 March 09, 2008, 11:50:05 pm

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shit, I think I dropped my change down the hole.

How can I get it back?

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Roman

#36 March 10, 2008, 12:40:07 am

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Quote from: Aten on March 09, 2008, 10:40:40 am

Man, since everything has a beginning and an ending, does that mean the universe also has an ending? If so, then what is there AFTER where it ends? Nothingness? Void? This kind of shit always makes me wonder sometimes. And whats even more frustrating is that we may never know :<

this is where gamesmasterjasper comes in and compares the universe to a map in rm2k with wrapping set to both vertical and horizontal

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Wil

#37 March 10, 2008, 12:43:15 am

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Quote from: crumply on March 09, 2008, 11:18:01 pm

I find it hard to be "sure" about space. I don't know why. Maybe if I go there one day...

Science can never be 100% sure about anything, it's just that science has enough evidence to lead to the probability of something being true. In this case, there's tons of evidence to suggest that the universe is expanding.

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AdderallApocalypse

#38 March 10, 2008, 02:45:04 am

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I often contemplate the reason behind it all. Why is there something as opposed to nothing? Why is the universe here, and why do the things in the universe work the way that they do?

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#39 March 10, 2008, 02:39:27 pm

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Quote from: Alexander Morou on March 09, 2008, 05:14:49 pm

So this void is 6 x 10²¹ miles long?

That's pretty large. Thankfully it isn't a black hole, because, if I remember correctly, black holes are dense enough that they contain the same amount of matter of earth in a cubic centimeter. I'm sure you can guess what that means if there were a black hole that large (yes it goes without saying it would really suck, but that's a bad pun, correct terminology would be it would really 'pull'.)

No, black holes are no more threatening than stars or groups of stars. Yes, they have more density concentrated in volume, but it's always the same mass. If our sun were to become a black hole (it pretty much can't, but let's talk theoretically), Earth wouldn't be sucked into it. We'd all die of lack of sunlight, but Earth would continue to revolve around the black hole just as it did the sun.

So a black hole of that size would have the same mass as a group of stars that would fill that space.

And also, THIS AREA HAS NO MASS. It can't be a black hole.

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Evangel

#40 March 10, 2008, 03:53:08 pm

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Quote from: Cheesy Doritos on March 09, 2008, 11:48:02 pm

Why is it hard to be sure? We know plenty of stuff about things we can't reach. You know the sun is hot, but it's not like you're right there, either.

Because it's impossible to see the big picture. How do we know that our scope of the universe isn't just the goings-on of a tiny fraction of it (which it pretty much is)?

keep posting...

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