Yet, there's no one protecting the privacy of ordinary people from the BEACON OF FIRE THAT IS FREEDOM OF PRESS yet there seems to be a huge fucking glass dome protecting all the politicians.

Uh? Lars, sweetie, there's nothing the American Press likes more than a political scandal. It generates all sorts of $$$

Uh? Lars, sweetie, there's nothing the American Press likes more than a political scandal. It generates all sorts of $$$

Explains why the Lewinsky case was kept under lid for as long as it did??

uh.

explains why just this week a story broke on the governor of NY having sex with prostitutes??

I'm pretty sure that one has been carefully planned to become a major news story at this time considering the election. Most likely has been kept under a lid for quite a while as well I guess until someone figured they could use the press for political reasons????

Ok but when was the first time he had sex with her? When was the first time someone found out and chose to not reveal the information? When was it that someone figured out saving the information would be smart considering the election? If it was a month ago he had sex with her for the first time, then that would make a lot of sense but say it's been going on for 5 years?

the press likes to make money and so they like to catch politicians doing bad things because then people tune in to watch them, this is not hard logic to figure out.

But certain political leaders seem to get immunity, as Clinton did for quite a while with his Lewinsky case. I'm not saying american press doesn't thrive on scandals and I never made that assumption at all?? I'm saying the actual groundwork behind a politicians decision (for instance the decision to going to war with iraq) is largely defended by the state. In the time before the Iraq war most european press covered how little reason there was to go to war and how catastrophic it would be for USA and iraq and the oil price yet the US press seemed to only focus on how necessary it was and how evil Saddam was?????

I heard that a major part of the population still believed Saddam had nuclear weapons a year after the invasion and actually believe the USA had discovered them, and whose fault would that be? An uneducating press!

also I don't see why you don't understand how a country at war and with a far denser population that experiences a massive amount more crime and court cases than probably all of Europe put together might have more cases where journalists were told to stop leaking federal info (WHOOPS sorry I thought freedom of press meant I could fuck over the process of justice for others IN SCANDANAVIA THEY WON'T LEAK YOUR NAME BUT THEY SURE WILL RUIN YOUR CHANCE AT A FAIR TRIAL ITS YOUR CHOICE) but I'm also not completely nuts. the US did drop according to Reporters Without Borders and it is because more people leaked shit from federal trials here than they did in Northern Europe, because there are more people and more court cases.

The press and legal system is proportional to the population and the number of court cases, although the USA has proportionally more ugly criminal cases than we do, and more crime per citizen. And I do understand the war thing, but I do find it pretty funny that AMERICANS of all people bring up FREEDOM OF THE PRESS when I'm sayin privacy of normal people (as in, non-public people as politicians) is far more important than having absolute press freedom (which seems to be an illusion over there anyway).

and I did assume everyone knew what I was talking about when I mentioned the gal who went to jail for not naming her sources since that was a pretty big case here (and a consequence of it being numerous debates were brought up in the media here about how the USA is on the wrong way and how freedom of the press is an illusion there).

I mean shit, the only press input I've had at all about American press for the past 7 years (since september 11th) is norwegian and other european press writing about how diminished the freedom of press is in the USA compared to europe >8(

also i think you should be less rude steel I am trying to make as good a point i can in a foreign language and I didn't bother finding links because the cases were covered a lot in norwegian news, and I figured they were in us news as well???

LARS HERE IS SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO REFUTE:

WATERGATE

wow you really have no idea what you are talking about at all.

you realize eliot spitzer would not have been up for reelection until 2010? do you really think him being caught fucking prostitutes would really hurt Hillary Clinton all that much? Not to mention the Lt. Gov. is also a Clinton supporter so it's not like they're OUSTING A CLINTON SUPPORTER FOR AN OBAMA GUY or some shit. and he certainly isn't a big enough name to harm the DNC nationally, so i don't get what you're trying to say!

In an already pretty marginal primary between the two candidates, minor shit like this might reduce her chances of a comeback?? It's a minor case but doesn't need much bigger to increase the gap does it?

He said that nonpublic figures got the shit end of the stick and politicians are protected by the press in the United States.

He said that nonpublic figures got the shit end of the stick and politicians are protected by the press in the United States.

This is a valid interpretation but I am not talking about Politicians being protected from PERSONAL SCANDAL STORIES, I am talking about being protected when it comes to politics.

edit: ok steel to be fair: I already pointed out several times that most of my opinions is formed on post9/11 press (or even from the Bush/Clinton dynasty era ho ho ho). The US press back in the 70s was fantastic and there's no way around saying that. Although I'm pretty sure you'd explode if I ever compared Watergate to sex scandals so...

the press doesn't protect politicians.

Please explain post 9/11 pre Iraq-officially-failed US press then?

Man, remember when they hauled away Jon Stewart and his writers and put 'em in front of the firing squad? Tough times man, tough times.

Man, remember when they hauled away Jon Stewart and his writers and put 'em in front of the firing squad? Tough times man, tough times.

Not talking about censorship from the justice system, but talking about the press doing self-censorship (or censorship from political forces driving the media), which isn't comparable. And I already posted stories about journalists in the US getting JAILTIME for what they would be applauded for doing here (correctly protecting their freedom of the press as opposed to what this topic seems to be about; disclosing non-public figures).