http://www.who.int/whosis/database/core/core_select_process.cfm?countries=all&indicators=nha
http://stats.oecd.org/wbos/default.aspx?DatasetCode=HEALTH

You should probably take into account that the UK NHS isn't really a role model. There are shit loads of budget problems and lots of wards go under financed.

Personally, if I can afford it, I will probably get health insurance (bupa or something). As much as I think it's un-ethical that someone with more money can get better treatment, I'm not willing to sacrice my health for my moral grounds. This isn't to say that their shouldn't be a national health service though. It just means that it should be improved. At least in UK.

Yeah just want to emphasise that our health care isn;t exactly great. We have some phenominal services indeed, but like if you've had an accident and have to wait to be seen, or if you've had an op and need to rest in a hospital bed to recover. These things are relatively bad, and as soon as I am through with education and striking it money, I'll be going for private healthcare (I already have private dentist(and I'm still like lower-working class!) because the nearest National one is so totally overbooked as to not be able to have appointments).

Lyndon, It's pretty good that you want to go for someone like Bupa. By allowing the more richer/privaliged to pay for their healthcare,. that frees up beds, time and space in the national healthcare and helps it a lot more than it would if everybody rich and poor was on it, because you're giving the less privalidged more of a chancE!!

You should probably take into account that the UK NHS isn't really a role model. There are shit loads of budget problems and lots of wards go under financed.

this IS taken into account. even with your flaws, you have a much better system than we do.

I don't even understand how countries without some kind of NHS can consider themselves civilized.

only negroes lack welfare (they should die)

What causes the longer waiting times though? Lack of funds or the fact that more people get health care thus making the quenes longer? More funds would make the queues longer but is the funds really the difference betwen an american and a canadian hospital?

Uh, I don't know exactly that we can attribute UHC to the lifespan and quality of life for UKers, doesn't that have more to do with their culture and eating habits? I'm sure UHC has something to do with it, but I don't think the effect is as profound unless there is some evidence somewhere that proves why.