Did you not read my post, moron?  I said I supported Obama.  I have good reasons for doing so.  However, I was not attacking Obama.  I was attacking his racist crackpot church.

I have.  And they're all equally retarded.  Unmeant pleasantries are hollow and those who spout them are vacuous and unthinking.  I'm not sorry that I disagree with you and you aren't either.  Cut the bullshit.

Actually, again, you people didn't read my post.  I'm not a right-winger.  I'm a gay Atheist, if you must know.  That's about as socially "left" as one gets.  I support Obama.  His pastor is a crazed lunatic.

The buzzword issue is a bit more difficult to clarify.  There are two target audiences for each candidate:  Those who vote based on image and hype and those who have an I.Q. greater than that of the average mentally retarded gerbil.  Sadly, most of America falls into the former category and waves around signs with the vague mantras scrawled all over them.  "We want change!"  Yeah, well, death is a change.  These hopeful-sounding gems of talking-without-saying-anything are duping the public to follow Obama under false pretences.  They think he's something vibrant and new;  the last remaining hope for America.  Bullshit.  Apart from his half-blackness he's your average run-of-the-mill politician.  He's got a smooth voice and pleasing mocha-coloured skin, but there's nothing else new about Obama.  His campaign won't change anything.  He's not a Superpresident:  faster than a hijacked 747, more powerful than an entire Congress, able to leap over any Supreme Court legislation in a single bound.  He will only be the next useless figurehead of American government.  As Bush has proved, there is no real power in the office of the President unless a war is declared.  All remaining candidates have vowed to end the war (McCain too, you moronic NPR worshippers, just in a slower method than the immediate withdrawal of either Obama or Clinton) and whatever candidate is elected will go back to the mediocrity of the Presidency.  None of our candidates are candidates of change.  It takes more hard work to change this nation than any one President can do.

I know it's not a dogmatic dismissal of other religions.  It's a dogmatic dismissal of people of the same religion who believe differently and are therefore not considered Christian by the name-caller.  My remarks were a reasoned dismissal of the person who was using the putrid phrase.  And unless I'm debating a scarecrow on this forum, there's no straw here.

I never mentioned the article.  I was purely focussing on the reply given to Wil by the fatuously named "The Truth."  Also, I'm not confusing anyone.  The fact that they are both racists who see blacks as the dominate race in some sort of spiritualist manner and the fact that I pointed out that it applies to them both may make you think I'm confused, but, as it turns out, you're the one who is confused.  The truth is that we are much more closely related than any one of us thought before ten years ago.  New studies in evolutionary biology and genetics have shown just how close the individual races are.  In fact, we're so close that the word race almost means nothing.  Blacks are not superior.  White are not either.  We are all equal.  Is that such a hard concept for these old, loud black men to grasp?  They think that they must combat white racism by being racist back.  It's sheer ignorance.

And don't give me this "oppressed culture" bullshit.  I'm a gay Atheist of Jewish decent living in the American South.  A black man living in Chicago is not oppressed.  I can fucking show you "oppressed."

I was raised in a fairly moderate Southern Baptist congregation.  We had quite a few black families who came to our church and loved it there.  I still visit churches at least twice a month.  I rarely see all-white churches anymore.  I see quite a few all-black churches.  Also, churches that happen to have an all-white congregation, in my experience, never talk about how good it is to be white or about how Jesus is coming back and he's going to take the white people first.  I have heard in several all-black churches that I have visited that it's "so good" to be black and that Jesus is going to "take the brothers and the sisters of Africa first," and I assume that this would be sufficient repayment for the exclusively Christian trafficking of slaves across the Atlantic in previous centuries.  The Christian religion in America has died down from most of its fervour.  Most American Christians are moderates and would have a black man to their dinner table just as soon as they would have a white man there.  However, in the rest of the world, I will agree with you.  Religion as a whole is very divisive and racist.  One more good reason to abandon your silly faiths. :-)

Why can I not base my assumption that "The Truth" is an idiot because of one very idiotic post?  Are we to say that Osama wasn't an asshole because he bombed us for one day or that Hitler wasn't a douchebag because he only perpetuated one holocaust?  An idiotic post, an unapologetically idiotic post, is a good sign that a person is an idiot.  Until I see otherwise, he's an idiot.

Ahhh, The Truth comes back to defend himself!  Shall he prove himself a worthy adversary or am I wasting my time.  I guess we'll soon find out.

He's not right, as I previously discussed.  How can you claim that he's right about my intentions as if it were a matter of fact?  Oh... right... arrogance.  I'm not confusing the two.  I know very well who "Rev." Wright and Louis Ferrakhan are as I have been following both of their careers for years.  They are both racist nutcases.  The information is not only readily available, but it's staring you in the face.  Wright follows what is called Black Liberation Theology, which is, in essence, the belief that black Christians are the chosen people of the Bible and, occasionally, that Jesus was black.  I don't know if Wright ever mentioned Jesus as a black man, so I won't say anything on the issue.  However, the idea that black Christians are the new chosen people is essential to the Black Liberation Theology that Wright endorses so adamantly.

Also, I don't believe any of the other candidates are anything but Christian.  I assume you're making a jab at Heartless Hillary with this remark, but I think she's too unfeeling to be a Humanist, don't you?  I'm certain she's a Christian, even though you may not want to count her among your ranks.

I'm sorry that you seem to have picked an asshole of a church to belong to, but the general message of Christianity is unity, is it not?  Aren't Christians supposed to "love their neighbours as their selves," or some such nonsense?  Again, find me a church that says that only whites go to Heaven.  (If it's in Alabama, I won't count it.  I'm looking for modern-era churches and Alabama is stuck in a time machine set to 1954.)  This chosen race mentality is only prevalent in black American churches.  There are no churches that have achieved the mega-church status Wright's church has built for itself who exclude black worshippers from their congregation.  Christian churches are too business-minded today to care too much about race.  A black man's money is just as good as a white man's money.  Also, here's the pastoral staff list.  http://www.tucc.org/pastoral_staff.htm  Find the white woman for me, please.  I looked and couldn't see her.  Is she wearing blackface make-up?

I would consider anyone who is gung-ho about anything an idiot, so don't think you're special.  Anyone who is gung-ho about a person or an organisation or a policy is so star-struck and blinded by their idol that they can't see the flaws in them and talk rationally.  A true sceptical person would critique every ounce of a person or organisation before becoming a follower.  That's what I did, and after much reflection, I support Obama.  However, the friend of a friend is not necessarily my friend.  You came to the right conclusion, man, but you seem to have been drawn to it too hastily and by taking the wrong bait.  At least you don't support that twat Hillary.  We'd have to really debate each other then.

It's called Biblical Astronomy.  Here is is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_geocentrism

Well, this was fun.  Was it a waste of my time?  Probably.  Are you a worthy adversary?  Probably not.  I'd love to be proven wrong though.  If I'm proven wrong about you, I make a new friend.  If I'm proven wrong about "Rev." Wright, the world isn't as fucked as I thought it was.  I sincerely hope I'm wrong in both cases, however, the evidence sides with me.

He will only be the next useless figurehead of American government.  As Bush has proved, there is no real power in the office of the President unless a war is declared.

I have.  And they're all equally retarded.  Unmeant pleasantries are hollow and those who spout them are vacuous and unthinking.  I'm not sorry that I disagree with you and you aren't either.  Cut the bullshit.

Actually, again, you people didn't read my post.  I'm not a right-winger.  I'm a gay Atheist, if you must know.  That's about as socially "left" as one gets.  I support Obama.  His pastor is a crazed lunatic.

The buzzword issue is a bit more difficult to clarify.  There are two target audiences for each candidate:  Those who vote based on image and hype and those who have an I.Q. greater than that of the average mentally retarded gerbil.  Sadly, most of America falls into the former category and waves around signs with the vague mantras scrawled all over them.  "We want change!"  Yeah, well, death is a change.  These hopeful-sounding gems of talking-without-saying-anything are duping the public to follow Obama under false pretences.  They think he's something vibrant and new;  the last remaining hope for America.  Bullshit.  Apart from his half-blackness he's your average run-of-the-mill politician.  He's got a smooth voice and pleasing mocha-coloured skin, but there's nothing else new about Obama.  His campaign won't change anything.  He's not a Superpresident:  faster than a hijacked 747, more powerful than an entire Congress, able to leap over any Supreme Court legislation in a single bound.  He will only be the next useless figurehead of American government.  As Bush has proved, there is no real power in the office of the President unless a war is declared.  All remaining candidates have vowed to end the war (McCain too, you moronic NPR worshippers, just in a slower method than the immediate withdrawal of either Obama or Clinton) and whatever candidate is elected will go back to the mediocrity of the Presidency.  None of our candidates are candidates of change.  It takes more hard work to change this nation than any one President can do.

I know it's not a dogmatic dismissal of other religions.  It's a dogmatic dismissal of people of the same religion who believe differently and are therefore not considered Christian by the name-caller.  My remarks were a reasoned dismissal of the person who was using the putrid phrase.  And unless I'm debating a scarecrow on this forum, there's no straw here.

I never mentioned the article.  I was purely focussing on the reply given to Wil by the fatuously named "The Truth."  Also, I'm not confusing anyone.  The fact that they are both racists who see blacks as the dominate race in some sort of spiritualist manner and the fact that I pointed out that it applies to them both may make you think I'm confused, but, as it turns out, you're the one who is confused.  The truth is that we are much more closely related than any one of us thought before ten years ago.  New studies in evolutionary biology and genetics have shown just how close the individual races are.  In fact, we're so close that the word race almost means nothing.  Blacks are not superior.  White are not either.  We are all equal.  Is that such a hard concept for these old, loud black men to grasp?  They think that they must combat white racism by being racist back.  It's sheer ignorance.

And don't give me this "oppressed culture" bullshit.  I'm a gay Atheist of Jewish decent living in the American South.  A black man living in Chicago is not oppressed.  I can fucking show you "oppressed."

I was raised in a fairly moderate Southern Baptist congregation.  We had quite a few black families who came to our church and loved it there.  I still visit churches at least twice a month.  I rarely see all-white churches anymore.  I see quite a few all-black churches.  Also, churches that happen to have an all-white congregation, in my experience, never talk about how good it is to be white or about how Jesus is coming back and he's going to take the white people first.  I have heard in several all-black churches that I have visited that it's "so good" to be black and that Jesus is going to "take the brothers and the sisters of Africa first," and I assume that this would be sufficient repayment for the exclusively Christian trafficking of slaves across the Atlantic in previous centuries.  The Christian religion in America has died down from most of its fervour.  Most American Christians are moderates and would have a black man to their dinner table just as soon as they would have a white man there.  However, in the rest of the world, I will agree with you.  Religion as a whole is very divisive and racist.  One more good reason to abandon your silly faiths. :-)

Why can I not base my assumption that "The Truth" is an idiot because of one very idiotic post?  Are we to say that Osama wasn't an asshole because he bombed us for one day or that Hitler wasn't a douchebag because he only perpetuated one holocaust?  An idiotic post, an unapologetically idiotic post, is a good sign that a person is an idiot.  Until I see otherwise, he's an idiot.

Jeff, you seem rather knowledgeable about the constitution and the way things work so I will direct my question towards you. Isn't it also true that the president can command the destruction of any city in the world -- on a whim? Is this within his power?

John Hagee privately visits with the highest level Middle East officials in the White House and afterwards pronounces that they're in agreement. John McCain shares a stage with Hagee and lavishes him with praise, as Rudy Giuliani did with Pat Robertson. James Inhofe remains a member in good standing in the GOP Senate Caucus. The Republican Party has tied itself at the hip to a whole slew of "anti-American extremists" -- people who believe that the U.S. provoked the 9/11 attacks because God wants to punish us for the evil, wicked nation we've become -- and yet there is virtual silence about these associations.

HUCKABEE: I don't think we know. If this were October, I think it would have a dramatic impact. But it's not October. It's March. And I don't believe that by the time we get to October, this is gonna be the defining issue of the campaign, and the reason that people vote.

And one other thing I think we've gotta remember. As easy as it is for those of us who are white, to look back and say "That's a terrible statement!"...I grew up in a very segregated south. And I think that you have to cut some slack -- and I'm gonna be probably the only Conservative in America who's gonna say something like this, but I'm just tellin' you -- we've gotta cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told "you have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can't sit out there with everyone else. There's a separate waiting room in the doctor's office. Here's where you sit on the bus..." And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would too. I probably would too. In fact, I may have had more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me.

ALSO just fyi quite a few people are saying this will be the nail in Obama's coffin and the superdelegates wont want to endorse him!

oh huckabee if you weren't a religious nutjob with terrible policies!

ALSO just fyi quite a few people are saying this will be the nail in Obama's coffin and the superdelegates wont want to endorse him!