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Even though I do feel that the term "classical music" can be a little misleading (as people generally use it to describe music from the Baroque, Renaissance and Classical periods exclusively), I see that people are mentioning more modern composers as well. So here are some of my favourites across the different periods:

Baroque: Albinoni, Bach, Handel, Pachelbel
Classical: Beethoven (even though he teeters on the edge towards Romantic), Brahms, Mozart, Clementi, Haydn
Romantic: Berlioz, Chopin, Wagner (yes, he is actually rather good, in my opinion - at least his different themes)
Impressionism: Debussy (really, he's the only one)
Expressionism: Berg
Various 20-th century composers: Ligeti, Stravinskij, Philip Glass, George Gershwin

On another note, I really enjoyed reading the earlier debate on dodecaphony. Even though I don't really enjoy it that much (Alban Berg is an exception to that rule because of Wozzek) I have composed using the technique a few times. It can be said to be both difficult and easy, I suppose... since you actually have a very strict set of rules to follow and you can't really do more than follow them once you've created the twelve note order.

Also, I must add my two cents considering the whole atonality vs. tonal music: Every piece of music has its own beauty, in my opinion. Ligeti's music may not be easy on the ear, but it can be hauntingly beautiful. John Cage may have written a piece called 4′33″ (which is one long pause - the pianist counts measures in complete silence for four minutes and thirty-three seconds) that may not exactly be what you'd expect from a composition, but the beauty instead lies in the noise the uncomfortable audience generates. Stravinskij's The Rite of Spring is both tonal and atonal, and one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard. And Debussy's Clair de Lune may be simplistic, but that is also the reason why it's so wonderful.

Anyway. Enough of my essay. :)
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shameless self promotion but this topic's OP is awful and I posted something on the main page about Messiaen soooo.

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Quartet for the End of Time is very tame compared to his organ works that mimicked bird songs...

(Pop-up-videopost): Messiaen had Synthesisia, a crossing of the senses, and could apparently "see" his music. Kinda explains why his shit is so trippy.

I have synesthesia

but uh I really only see it for rhythm sounds - or oftentimes I just go on a feeling like right now I'm trying to do a song like strawberries - but that might be more like random thought association at the time sort of thing

But yeah this guy is just weird - it sounds like music but really "off" in a way I can't describe - but yeah I try to go for weird-ass feelings in my songs too
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I have synesthesia

but uh I really only see it for rhythm sounds - or oftentimes I just go on a feeling like right now I'm trying to do a song like strawberries - but that might be more like random thought association at the time sort of thing

But yeah this guy is just weird - it sounds like music but really "off" in a way I can't describe

synesthesia is when you physically see colors associated with certain sounds, not when sounds bring a certain color to mind.
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synesthesia is when you physically see colors associated with certain sounds, not when sounds bring a certain color to mind.

it can be either - it says that he didn't directly perceive color either

and I definitely have some sort of thing where if I look at something animated it's sort of got a sound to it, like if I turn to look at a light it's bright but it's loud too

Edit: But then again I'm pretty fucking weird anyway I wake up all the time and I'll still be half-dreaming and I'll like see an image of a book or an article in a magazine and it's just like RANDOM WORDS but it's like visualized stream of consciousness although it seems to be remembering stuff I read before and not stuff I heard but either way it's like LUMINE HALL or something

Like one thing that I can remember was it kept shifting between SHOW ARTIST (like winamp I guess) and SHO WU ARTIST (like chinese person???)     it was pretty weird
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Sibelius is the text book case of synesthesia. He would go to concert halls and litterally see bursts of colours coming from the instruments. Truly and amazing concept to grasp. One of my friends off my course claims to have synesthesia aswell. He says that he see different keys in different colours.

It's like one of the those things, I can't ever imagine being colour blind, but there are people out there who are
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Yeah it's nothing like that but for the right percussive sounds it's like a white-blue flash - but late at night if our radiator goes off it's like just blue all over
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One of my friends off my course claims to have synesthesia aswell. He says that he see different keys in different colours.

Is this at a music conservatory or something?  Because at my music school, the posing runs extremely high and if you believed everything that the musicians said about themselves you'd think the small town of River Falls has more synesthetics, people with perfect pitch, and child prodigies than any other region of the entire world.
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Oh christ almighty I hate it when people tell me they have perfect pitch. Can you sing a Bb for me right now please... oh you cant? your throat hurts today? I'm sorry

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Oh christ almighty I hate it when people tell me they have perfect pitch. Can you sing a Bb for me right now please... oh you cant? your throat hurts today? I'm sorry

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I know what you mean. I suppose some people just don't know what perfect pitch is. I don't, for example, have perfect pitch. What I can do is give you an A - 440 Hz - because it's stuck in my ears, and then I can work out what key something is in or what note to sing (because I'm used to finding a D from an A, and therefore I have two reference notes). That's not perfect pitch, however, even though people try to tell me it is. :) So yeah, I can sing a Bb for you, but I'd have to go "Mmm... mmm". (A -> Bb)
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I know what you mean. I suppose some people just don't know what perfect pitch is. I don't, for example, have perfect pitch. What I can do is give you an A - 440 Hz - because it's stuck in my ears, and then I can work out what key something is in or what note to sing (because I'm used to finding a D from an A, and therefore I have two reference notes). That's not perfect pitch, however, even though people try to tell me it is. :) So yeah, I can sing a Bb for you, but I'd have to go "Mmm... mmm". (A -> Bb)

I wonder if perfect pitch is actually impossible but that people who have it have tinnitus so they find notes by comparing them to the incessant ringing in their ears.  My girlfriend played drums a lot when she was in high school and didn't wear ear plugs, so she has tinnitus and I've noticed that certain pitches will drive her completely insane (they clash with the one stuck in her head).  Maybe people who are born with tinnitus can unconsciously compare notes with the one in their ears and that's where their pitch comes from!

Beethoven had perfect pitch for example and he eventually went deaf (so I assume that there was something wrong with his ears and they may have been ringing before he lost his hearing?).

Oh christ almighty I hate it when people tell me they have perfect pitch. Can you sing a Bb for me right now please... oh you cant? your throat hurts today? I'm sorry

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I've encountered people who are like I HAVE PERFECT PITCH and then they get the requested note wrong and say "well . . . . . . . it's almost perfect . . . . . . . ."
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One of my lecturers has perfect pitch. If you play a note on a keyboard he can tell you what it is. It's impressive, but not neccersary and to be honest I don't really care that I can't do it. Being able to recognise intervals is useful though for transcribing music
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i knew a girl who had perfect pitch and we would play xiu xiu for her and then she stopped hanging out with us because it hurt her ears too much.

SHE WAS A BIG SLUT HUH.
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