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where are these Hundley rant articles everyone keeps talking about?
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I really don't know, I think people just remember Hundley talking about FF7 with *gasp* real thought and have somehow conflated it into a long series of posts?
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To everybody saying that Gears of War is overhyped, I have to agree with you.  But I also have to say that it is NOT a shitty game.  At least, not within the shooter genre.  It has absolutely wonderful level design, the maps flow really nicely and the game has a pretty nice pacing to everything.  There isn't much exciting about it besides the entertaining combat and the visuals, but it's a whole lot better than most shooters I've played that aren't made by Valve, Rare, or Free Radical.
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halo cockfucking 2

what a horrible piece of shit that was (except from the earth levels)

also gears of war is kinda average too except the multiplayer which is pretty damn fun after you learn the basics


weird that no one here is mentioning gta4 since its getting 10 all over the place. personally i feel like it deserves it because i have so much fun playing it but i'd assume some of you would consider that extremely overhyped and overrated.
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I really don't know, I think people just remember Hundley talking about FF7 with *gasp* real thought and have somehow conflated it into a long series of posts?

couple of years ago me and hundley had a "rap battle" about how i thought final fantasy x had decent character development and final fantasy 7 was bad because it negatively influenced the RPG genre into a series of static and dull archetypes.

he completely torched my argument but agreed to some of my points.  hundley agreeing was victory enough for me and my head swelled two sizes that day (ah memories)
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weird that no one here is mentioning gta4 since its getting 10 all over the place. personally i feel like it deserves it because i have so much fun playing it but i'd assume some of you would consider that extremely overhyped and overrated.
well i was actually going to mention it, but for a game that is still really good there's no point. you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who can legitimately bash the game simply because it's better than 99% of the garbage out there. even though i don't like a lot of things in GTA4, you are guaranteed to at least play for 10+ hours that you'll have a lot of fun in (i lowballed the hours at 10 just to be safe). most likely more, but it gets stale the more you play it obviously. you can barely say the same for any other game, since many games these days are under 10 hours, are maybe fun for a few of those hours, and you'll never play it again.

basically the production values in GTA4 are so sky high you can say rockstar really fucked up and the game should have been even better, but it's still a good game.
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Chrono Cross(And sorta Trigger) is an overrated game, seriously the game had everything going for it, incredible music, graphics, and a nice selection of characters(A few characters) and a good back story from the Trigger but they STILL managed to fuck it up with the boring story, gameplay and so many characters were not even needed or done well for that matter. Trigger was great, but from what everyone was saying about it I kinda was letdown, but I don't think it was the game it self that let me down because I quite enjoyed it, but the HUGE expectations I had for it.

This.

I loved Chrono Trigger, so I became a squealing fanboy when I heard about CC. I bought it, played it, and hated it. Oh man, did I hate it. Sure, the music is mostly great, and the battle system is actually kinda fun (I love the element grid thingy) but... man, the story. The story! And the ending! :cry:
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The story and ending to Chrono Cross was clearly superior to Trigger. Most people just dont understand it.

Edit: Oh yeah, overhyped game....uh...FF7. One of my favorite games, but very overhyped. And God of War. Shit is boring.
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FF7 - Terrible writing
ahahahaha *wipes tear*

and what are you? Some kind of writing/literature scholar?
Ignoring the fact that you are indeed a fanboy, have you ever read Hundley's rants against Final Fantasy games? He's a writing/literature scholar!
i never ranted against final fantasy 7 and have only ever defended it on these forums.


SPLAT.



i wish i never mentioned that i have a degree. i feel like such a CREDENTIALS dick even though having a degree doesn't mean a goddamn thing
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And God of War. Shit is boring.

This.

I really don't get all this wanking to God of War. I mean, it's not bad, per se, but Jesus it's not THAT good either!
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This.

I really don't get all this wanking to God of War. I mean, it's not bad, per se, but Jesus it's not THAT good either!

Yeah specifically CoO. I dropped 50 buckers on it and it was a 3 hour game with shitty level design, like seriously you could tap the square button and run to win.

War 2 was better but JESUS FUCK did it get annoying fast.
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I gotta agree on God of War, it got all these great reviews and generally everyone considered it as a 9/10 game (whatever that means).

But the reality was that it was just like some medieval DMC except there was less acrobatics and more precise jumping and leaps of faith. I remember being bored out of my mind when I had reached the second half of stage 2. Good thing that we had it borrowed from some random guy and never had to regret buying it.
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i never ranted against final fantasy 7 and have only ever defended it on these forums.

I never said you did. I've only heard you speak out against FFX.... and that's close enough for me. I'll use anything to keep Aten's rampant fanboyism at bay.
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I gotta agree on God of War, it got all these great reviews and generally everyone considered it as a 9/10 game (whatever that means).

But the reality was that it was just like some medieval DMC except there was less acrobatics and more precise jumping and leaps of faith. I remember being bored out of my mind when I had reached the second half of stage 2. Good thing that we had it borrowed from some random guy and never had to regret buying it.

see i am completely opposite in this thinking.  i thought DMC was a complete fluke as every subsequent release was pretty lame (and even then, devil may cry's level design was pretty shit in all games) and god of war both delivered in a pretty decent plot for an action game, solid level, and they were pretty difficult (well, i played on spartan mode and they kicked my ass).  i loved pandora's temple as the game took a major turn from HACK N SLASH to having tons of puzzles and traps to move through and man, the final boss battle.

man, the final boss battle.  i was totally predicting a hollywood move where kratos revives his family and lives happily ever after but jesus christ THAT GUY CANNOT GET A BREAK!
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To defend Gears of War, you guys were all clearly playing it on single player. The co-op is okay and fun, but even then that wasnt the point of the game. It was a ridiculously sick shooter which thrived on online play aka the team deathmatch and execution, etc. It was extremely fun, fair (if you were good), and incorporated new things to involve everyone (like downing people and picking them up, grenade tags, chainsawing, among other things). Most of the maps offered in multiplayer were also very awesome, balanced, and they all incorporated a different playstyle. So if everyone was talking shit on Gears of War solely based on the single player, you havent played the game yet.
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I managed to get Gears of War for free due to some promotional shit and while I've only played single player I enjoyed it.  I could imagine being SUPER PISSED OFF paying 60$ for a grand 5 hour experience (i rarely play console games online go figure) but I enjoyed it for what it was.

If a game is going to be retardedly short then I expect it to be really good.  Uncharted really held my attention because (like GTAIV) the production values were RIDICULOUS but Gears of War was like watching a B-action flick.
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Good to see I'm not the only one who doesn't think that highly of the God of War games.
I can't say they're completely bad (the story and I guess you call it "scale" were awesome) but because there are much more better games in that genre it makes God of War look like a cheap imitation.

Another series that I've always thought was overrated are the Virtua Fighter games. Most people consider them to be the best fighting games in existence but to me they just feels like crap. Heck I remember when the 1st one came out in the arcade. Everyone and their mama was in there playing it and here I was looking around at all the much better fighting games that were out. At the time I thought it was just the 3D graphics that blinded everyone to how crappy this game was but even till this day when 3D fighters are the norm people consider Virtua Fighter 5 to be incredibly awesome while I still view it as a piece of crap. The only thing I've liked that (sorta) had anything to do with Virtua Fighter is Shenmue.

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have you... played a virtua fighter?  it's a slower and more methodical fighter (you can't really compare it to super fast games like street fighter) and it was basically a rival to tekken which took a huge shit turn after tekken 3.
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Yeah I've played all of them. You know what? I don't like Tekken much either so maybe slower fighters just aren't for me (I love Soul Caliber and DOA but I don't think theyre anything like VF or Tekken so this probably don't count).

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Yeah I've played all of them. You know what? I don't like Tekken much either so maybe slower fighters just aren't for me (I love Soul Caliber and DOA but I don't think theyre anything like VF or Tekken so this probably don't count).
I think you've just ruined any amount of credibility you had to talk about this.

Edit: VF5 wasn't even that hyped outside of the fighting game niche (ie only SRK.com). I don't really remember anyone but like Raziel talking about it ever, so yea I think most people were just expecting "oh VF with sweet graphics cool" rather than like "HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE MAGNUM OPUS OF GAMING."
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