hi everyone it's me jamicus and today i want to talk about being a vegetarian. i've decided to turn vegetarian, and since i've decided not to eat meats anymore my vegecabulary will obviously have to adjust to reflect this new facet of my personality, so i hope i don't accidentally alienate some of the meat-eating neanderthals. everyone is welcome! let's continue:


Anecdote:


     as little as three days ago i was vege-ignorant (this is vege-slang), but two days ago i was at a BBQ and one of my friend's had brought something called "vegetarian sausage". i was utterly flabberghasted, i had no idea such a thing existed so in my curiousity and surprised i asked if i could try one. to my surprise i would easily give it a 8/10, whereas i was earlier giving the regular sausages only 5 or 6 out of ten.

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      so it became a moral choice, now that the issue of "i like meat though" was out of the way. was i going to stand up and save the world one vege-sausage at a time? or would i acquiesce to a continued life of implicit slaughter? obviously you all know what choice i made. and that is my vege-tale. if any of you wish to share your vege-tales with me and the community at large, feel invited to do so.




but i also have some vege-questions!

vq#1:   is vegetarian food generally more expensive to buy? i realise it can be more difficult to find but this doesn't bother me.

vq#2:   what are some good vegetarian recipes/stuff you can buy that tastes good?

vq#3:   what is the sexiest vege? i've seen a few.



ps. i have no beef (heh) with exploiting animals for their resources eg milks. i draw the line at eggs but milks is pretty necessary, thanks!

3) Make sure that you supplement with vitamin B12 on a daily basis, as it is both vital and only found in meat.

isn't it also found in dairy products? i'm still eating butter and cheese. i will get some anyway, though.

Like Madox used to say... "For every cow you dont eat,ill eat 4" ;)

...damn you otomon

Like Madox used to say... "For every cow you dont eat,ill eat 4" ;)

yeah, thanks for undermining jamicus' morality

Yeah, Vitamin B12 is found in dairy products, specifically milk. You can also buy special B12-fortified vegetarian products (like certain soy and plant milks). Check the labels!

if you go vegetarian you better vary up the diet because most people I know who quit essentially are eating shitty dokmartini food instead of curries or good shit.

I don't know if you have an SA account but: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2583524

Vq1:  It depends.  For me, no.  Why?  I don't spend all my money on fake meat alternatives and plus I forage for shit like dandelions (lol) which saves money.  It all depends on what you buy.  If you eat a lot of whole foods such as fruits and vegetables it will be cheaper but if your diet mainly consists of vegetarian alternatives it won't.

Vq2:  Just google seach veggie recipes and find one you think is good.

Vq3:  Me lol jk.  Actually I don't know but a lot of famous people are veg.

What is exactly is your reason for going veg? 

Make sure your diet is varied.  Do not rely entirely on fake meat products.  Eat a lot of fresh, whole foods like greens, fruits, nuts, seeds.  Don't go overboard on the dairy either.  Lots of vegetarians go psycho on dairy and that is one reason many of them have anemia (Iron deficiency).

Drule, answer three is not completely true.  Vitamin B12 is synthesized by bacteria.  The reason it's mostly found in animal products is because the animals either have the bacteria in their gut (we do too but I read somewhere it is too low to be absorbed by our body) or when cows eat grass they will eat some of the dirt with it which has the bacteria in it.  There are some foods out their like Spirulina, Wheatgrass...etc that claim to have naturally occuring b12 in them but I've heard people say they are just analogues and cannot be used by the body but then I've heard people say they do actually have b12.  Vegetarians don't need to supplement b12 a lot though because most veggies eat a lot of dairy which has it.  I'm 99% raw and I don't take a multivitamin, I do eat nutritional yeast on occasion though just to be on the safe side.  I take spirulina and wheatgrass ​  Alternatively if you grow some of your own vegetables you can eat them without washing all the dirt off 100%.

Magic Negro, if my food is shitty what is not shitty food?  How are greens shitty?

any food that is good is not shitty. to be good most food, with some notable exceptions, requires some degree of cooking or blending or steaming or something that isn't a fucking dehydrated zucchini. greens rule but not when you don't add anything to them.

hmm well think i'll just wrap this carrot in a lettuce and call it a vegritto.

lol I blend shit up.

I understand what are saying...I think my food is good you don't...matter of preference.

Yeah I realized he was talking about taste.

Can you get quorn steaks?

I'm not trolling I want to know. If so are they nice?

i havent ever seen veggie steaks, but they do veggie fillets/cutlets and stuff. they're ok. actually, you can get some seasoned with peppercorns and shit and they are quite nice.

you can also get a quorn roast which you slice up and can have in place of turkey at xmas or whatever.

I don't really get it. You decided to become a vegetarian, but why? You ate some vegetarian food that tasted better than the meat that was available at that time?

It seems to me that the only good reason to become a vegetarian is a strong moral objection against the biotechnological industry. Vegetarianism is not inherently healthier by nature and if you don't like meat you can just decide to not eat it without having to officially proclaim that you never will eat it again.

i was just trying to make the topic entertaining, i figured no-one would want to read about how eating meat feels immoral! to me, everyone already knows the arguments and they've probably already made their choice? i'd say i do have a moral objection, and mostly this is just about me doing something that'll make me feel a bit more proud of the guy i am day to day. i'm not gonna proclaim i'm vegetarian every five minutes, i'm not gonna be one of those people. the eating of the vege sausage was just something that made me curious so i went home and read about vegetarianism for a while and figured frack it why not, the arguments seem pretty sound to me and there aren't any major downsides to the diet. on the plus side i will probably eat healthier than i did before, if only because i won't be getting take-aways anymore.

heh I've been wondering for a long time if I want to make the leap and go full vegetarian... somehow I dont think its worth it. Right now I pretty much subsist on a mediterranean style diet and home and whatever I can forage at work heh

that means I eat lots of fruit and fresh vegetables (though this is getting harder with food prices the way they are...) and as far as grains and stuff go I usually stick to like wild or brown rice, couscous and bulgar, I always make sure that my fat intake comes from olive oil and nuts. When I do eat animal products its usually eggs for breakfast, some kind of fish or red meat like... once a month if I can help it. I'm not home for dinner often anymore cause I work evenings so I tend to only eat salad and stuff after working, so avoiding red meat, poultry and pork isnt difficult really.

I just dont see any reason to cut out any dairy from my diet or completely get rid of meat all together.

actually this guy sums up the reasons better than i could:

Cool, I thought at first you went vegetarian just because you thought the veggie sausages taste better.  My sis is "vegetarian" because she hates the taste of meat but eats fake meat products which taste pretty much the same.  She also eats gelatin (not vegetarian) and things like chicken stock and hostess cupcakes (they have animal fat in them).