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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6639461.stm

admit it. a bitch with throat cancer sucked on yer balls a few years back. make her pay for this shit
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oh wow. that is really shitty dude.
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anyways i'm kind of irritated. i dont even know what happened man. why did i go to indiana anyways? did i not qualify? if so could he not tell me before this trip? insurance won't pay for it because they didn't do anything.

i dunno i'm pretty disgruntled. i'll be meeting with my old oncologist on tuesday but man what the fuck?

pull a John Q and make them perform the operation by force

seriously though what? you just got there and they said WELP..SORRY CAN'T DO NOTHING?

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aaaa what the fuck! what the fuck! irradiate indiana! irradiate indiana!!

you don't have brain cancer but you still have to take the pills? :(
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i dont have brain cancer!

anyways i'm kind of irritated. i dont even know what happened man. why did i go to indiana anyways? did i not qualify? if so could he not tell me before this trip? insurance won't pay for it because they didn't do anything.

i dunno i'm pretty disgruntled. i'll be meeting with my old oncologist on tuesday but man what the fuck?
didnt you already tell me he didnt find any of this out until after you got there
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fuck man its only a few spots why can't it be eradicated!!!!!!!!
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you had conway twitty on yer TV.
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didnt you already tell me he didnt find any of this out until after you got there

i know but you have to admit this is just hella weird. like if he found out that FRIDAY i could have still canceled the trip. idk i am a little confused and disgruntled.

aaa neuropathy in fingers from pills just now.

i dunno this is all kind of weird. i hope my oncologist can shed some light.
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as long as your remaining cancer isn't in your heart or lungs i can probably remove it. if you have some water on the knee i can get rid of that for you really really well also.

how bad is the cancer that's remaining? is it growing fast and causing problems or is it not growing and they'd like to get rid of it or is it growing slowly and might cause problems?
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its just some cells in my spine and brain from what i know. i feel a bit lightheaded sometimes and some backpain but i dont know, this could be chemo/stress??? there's also the foot pain and some neuropathy. who knows, if i look for signs i'll see them even if they aren't there.
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okay so this is kind of heavy stuff. this is not something you guys are going to like. I considered not posting it at all but I need to talk to someone and I dunno.

I emailed a guy who runs a website because I had the feeling the silence from einhorn and my oncologist, and the fact that people want to MEET with me rather than comfort me lately was ringing bad bells. here's the reply.

"I wish I could tell you that Dr Einhorn is a jerk and just didn't like you, but the fact is, if he didn't think the treatment was appropriate, then I have to believe him. It would have been nice to know why, but chances are it is because of the brain mets. Suffice to say, those are not good. The pills he gave you are not curative and will theoretically never cure you. I do know a guy who used them for close to 2 years, so they can prolong the onset of the bad stuff while you look for something else. I would keep taking them until you get a better offer.

Some of the very best doctors are quicker to turn you down for the salvage treatments because they really don't think they will work and they do think the treatments will make you miserable and may even shorten your life. I'm not sure what your opinion is, but doing something fun while you can is not a bad idea. There are stories on the TCRC where people did do that and are glad they did.

As for oncologists, you can try contacting a few, but chances are they aren't going to have anything better apart from a Phase I Clinical Trial - the problem with those is that they are for the benefit of medical science, not for your benefit. They MIGHT help you, but probably not. You can try contacting Dr Nichols in Oregon or Dr Bosl in New York or Dr Raghavan in Cleveland.

One last thing you can do is contact Dinesh. His story is on the TCRC in the extragonadal stories section. His cancer was similar to yours (though possibly not, since his HCG was elevated and your AFP is elevated), and he is still alive despite years of chemo. His chemo was very different from most TC patients, though I believe his doctor has since retired. Nevertheless, it might be worth asking about it.

His story is here: http://tcrc.acor.org/stories/dinesh.html
His email address is: removed

You might also want to join TC-NET, our email support list. Others may have advice for you there."

the main bulletpoint is the one no one's been telling me but that I've suspected for sometime: Einhorn lied about the pills. they are not curative. I mean this guy isn't a doctor but it's a confirmation of what I've been thinking for some time.

I think I'm looking at terminal cancer here.

I don't know what to do anymore. I'm not giving up, I can't give up, but at the same time this is a blow. I had hoped the pills were secretly curative, but I knew deep inside it wouldn't GO DOWN like it did if they were. The silence only confirms it; these are pills for remission.

I think I'm going to die. I can't tell my mom this, but she's going to find out soon enough.

If there's anything you can find, help. If you can find clinical trials that are showing promise, help. If you have doctor friends, help. Dinesh's story is encouraging, but as the guy said, it's also different and he had no brain tumors. today my throat swole up a little. I can't help but feel its a tumor.

I can't believe this is happening. a 90% curable cancer, and I think I've lost those odds.

anyways I'm gonna email around a bit, feel a little lost. etc.
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Dude, try e-mailing a doctor from McGill University's science department. They have some of the best in the world so maybe they can give you some information?

I'm really fucking sorry to hear that but I'm sure shit will get better. There's surely something someone can do
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you know what? top cancer doctor wouldn't have had a problem saying it was terminal, he undoubtedly gets people a lot sicker than you and people he'd feel a lot more sorry for. why would he not straight out say 'you're screwed son?' especially after he made you trek all that way.

you know what probably happened, your old doctors probably goofed something in getting you the consult, it wasn't a cancer that required irradiation, it was a cancer that required pills to make sure it would never grow, and in 10% of cases the cancer goes away. in 80% of cases the patient lives fine, just has to take a pill for the rest of his life. in 9% of cases the patient dies relatively soon (2 years) after and in rare instances the patient dies instantly (not you obviously). i made up these numbers but they seem likely.

you're still gonna be messed up for a while because chemo undoubtedly messed around with your body chemistry a lot so it's going to take a while for your to return to a base where your limbs don't inflate randomly. you're getting better really clearly i can see it in your posts.

sorry to kill your hopes of dying but you've got the same thing randy from home improvement had.
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whoa i remember that ep.  aaaaaaaaaaa take a pill every day for the rest of your life you'll be fine


also i dunno man.  i dont want to think youre dying.  i wont believe it until you do.  itll be fine youll see!!!
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http://tcrc.acor.org/stories_egc.html I'm kind of in this boat fyi.

you will notice almost all of them are dead, especially the ones that have a brain met like I do! this Taxxol thing kind of gives me a bit of hope but damn no one seems to be cured from just it.

fuck this sucks.
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top cancer doctor wouldn't have had a problem saying it was terminal

quote from the Tag story on this site (tag's a bit closer to what I've got unfortunately)

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Dr. Einhorn recommended the oral etopside to prolong life... We didn’t want to prolong life. We wanted a cure!

I think he tells people he knows can't deal with it otherwise (my mom was there).
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what's fucking me is how they're all dead in like a goddam year.

I've already had a year so i mean GOOD FOR THAT but jesus christ it's like remission is a matter of fucking days for this shit. and my throat's swelling and now I'm wondering if my lightheadedness is really steroid or if it's further brain met (I have some lesions we thought might be radiation but who knows).

like if I last five years there's a good chance a new drug would show up in that time, but these things killed these guys in like a goddam year.
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i mean, if you've already had a year and are doing relatively okay, maybe it's something else, or maybe the chances of you going into a longer remission are much higher!  you seem to be handling this better than the people who ALL DIED did so that's good news and possibly something to be positive about!  buck up chum.  worrying about dying certainly wont help altho i can understand the urge
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this is such horrible news. reading that email(?) you posted is sickeningly sad :(

there has to be something else you can at least TRY...

my best friend's mom died of cancer. at the time she mentioned this one dr who had some sort of treatment. you had to meet very specific requirements to get it and it was really expensive. her mom never ended up being able to get it. i'm not sure if it was because she was too old (like 40ish) or if the cancer had just spread too far. i'll ask my friend if she still has any info about that doctor.
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