Halle Berry isn't repulsive to me. She is attractive, but I'm not attracted to her.

Tyra Banks is ugly as hell, but I think a lot of that is the haircut (I for some reason am generally not attracted to girls without bangs).

uhh you're expected to adjust because you see them every day and you are pretty immature if you can walk past these people and see them in stores and deal with them in restaurants on a daily basis and not adjust to their existence.  i really don't see how you can fail to understand why saying I CANT GET USED ALL THESE MINORITIES even though they're constantly all around me is exactly the type of attitude maintains tension.  it's even worse because you're acting like someone's grandma about it and being like WELL I DONT SEE WHY I SHOULD HAVE TO ADJUST i only see them all the time.

Totally missed the point yet again...

Just seeing people is not enough to really understand because I DONT get to interact with them. I never even said that I don't want to adjust to them because that kind of thinking is exactly the thing I hated about those people that were racist to me. That was just a general example. Maybe you are just assuming too much and now I want to know..

when did you realise you were racist??

nah i didn't miss the point at all but keep telling yourself that because i imagine it is easier to say that than to just admit you are doing something wrong.  but uh YOUR POINT is why i am calling you immature to begin with.  it's because yeah any reasonably mature person is expected to be able to adjust to people being around him whether they knows them or not.  probably because you are going to have to do it in life.  a lot.  if you want to keep making excuses for why you're for some reason incapable of doing something that's expected of pretty much any adult, then that's fine, but it doesn't change what you are.  saying NOO BUT I CANT >< just means there's something wrong with you, not the expectation!

honestly were you just a coddled and cloistered kid?  that seems to be the main type of person i encounter who seem totally unable to adjust to things despite the fact that they are around them constantly, whether there's any direct contact or not.

I don't think that our preference of lighter women is decided just because we are racist. To me it seems that we aren't used to it and we don't accept it because its not a normality. ex. If this was a society of really dark people, the darker girls would be more normal and would be more accepted than lighter girls

Not completely true. Nigeria is filled with relatively dark people, and lighter-skinned girls are often the ones that are more sought after for commercial roles. Can't say much about romance, since I went to a girls' school while I was there and didn't get to see them interact with any guys. Nigeria was colonized by the British, and so this idea of "lighter = better" might have been instilled by them. Racism exists among black people, too. You can't say that it's because they're "not really used to it", either.

The preference for lighter individuals among blacks is called colorism. You can see it not only in personal preferences, but also in the media (i.e. light skinned blacks are more likely to get parts in movies, etc). It's a bit disappointing because I am pretty dark myself, but hey, if I ever went into television (lol) I suppose I could always get a job behind the scenes. It's kind of disconcerting for all those girls who want to be actresses, singers, or otherwise, though: they'll be turned away simply because they are too dark, or they'll be told to "lighten up".

I can't begin to describe how far off you are. I don't even think you are reading my posts anymore. I know I am a racist, but not in the way that you say I am. What you said about me not trying to adjust is totally wrong. The one thing I hate more than anything people hating each other and thats why i try not to hate anyone.  My parents work as busdrivers and they interact with the community a lot. Sometimes I even hear stories about how people are such asshles and most of the times its black people. People learn from experience, isn't that true? When most of what I hear is bad things, don't you think I learn from them? But still, I am not so stupid as to think that it is okay. I used to go to church and I still think that hating anyone is a bad thing.

All you have done is criticised other people so far and as far as I remember you never said if you were racist or not.(if you did my bad) So instead of going off on other people and trying to piss them off, why don't you tell us if you think you are racist or not and lets us judge you.

If you don't want to tell me how you are not a racist or not, then don't bother to reply. I can see how angry you are getting and its making me angry too. I would rather not have a stupid argument.

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Hey!  Did you read my post or is it a coincidence that you just mentioned the exact same thing that I did?  That's a pretty cool coincidence!  Where in Nigeria did you go to school?

Anyway yeah that is a good post and exactly what I am talking about.  The fact that it plays such a strong role in what a black woman can do or the impression people get from her shows that clearly it's an incredibly important factor and not just something relating to benign preference of a few people.  It's such a universal thing that I think it's kind of naive and near-sighted not to attribute it to a perception that lighter skin tone is generally superior, which is of course unambiguously racist.  I don't think you guys put enough thought into why exactly you find darker skinned women less attractive.

Also I'm pretty sure I said I talked about myself on like the first page if you want to go back and judge me a little bit!  I have random stupid misconceptions of black culture in America but I think I got rid of most if not all of those a long time ago, so I'm inclined to say I don't think I'm particularly racist at all, but at the same time I'd agree with Jamicus that most people are at least a little bit, so maybe I am and I just don't realize how.

Not completely true. Nigeria is filled with relatively dark people, and lighter-skinned girls are often the ones that are more sought after for commercial roles. Can't say much about romance, since I went to a girls' school while I was there and didn't get to see them interact with any guys. Nigeria was colonized by the British, and so this idea of "lighter = better" might have been instilled by them. Racism exists among black people, too. You can't say that it's because they're "not really used to it", either.

The preference for lighter individuals among blacks is called colorism. You can see it not only in personal preferences, but also in the media (i.e. light skinned blacks are more likely to get parts in movies, etc). It's a bit disappointing because I am pretty dark myself, but hey, if I ever went into television (lol) I suppose I could always get a job behind the scenes. It's kind of disconcerting for all those girls who want to be actresses, singers, or otherwise, though: they'll be turned away simply because they are too dark, or they'll be told to "lighten up".

Thank you for not being an ass when posting something. That is something I didn't know.

Thank you for not being an ass when posting something. That is something I didn't know.

Yeah, well, I believe we can all use a little leaning once in a while. Sort of a step on the way toward understanding the things we all tend to ignore when it comes to race, I suppose. I myself wasn't really consciously aware of it until I looked it up. Now I see that the skin tone, not just race in general, can even dictate how far you can go in certain industries and careers. That's a rather sad fact.

Hey!  Did you read my post or is it a coincidence that you just mentioned the exact same thing that I did?  That's a pretty cool coincidence!  Where in Nigeria did you go to school?

Haha, I read through your post before but I didn't catch the part where you pointed out the "lighter=better" assumption. I guess it is some sort of coincidence. I went to school in Lagos, Nigeria, for a few months when I went to visit my cousins. It was the third time I visited and it's the last time I've been there so far. I was kind of bitter about going to school during summer vacation, but I did learn a lot about our differences (and similarities) in culture.

Anyway yeah that is a good post and exactly what I am talking about.  The fact that it plays such a strong role in what a black woman can do or the impression people get from her shows that clearly it's an incredibly important factor and not just something relating to benign preference of a few people.  It's such a universal thing that I think it's kind of naive and near-sighted not to attribute it to a perception that lighter skin tone is generally superior, which is of course unambiguously racist.  I don't think you guys put enough thought into why exactly you find darker skinned women less attractive.

Agreed. As the wiki entry, states, colorism is a worldwide kind of thought that affects even the societies where you'd think it wouldn't. I guess this might be a reminder that many of us have those preconceived notions about people of different skin color, however minor they may seem. Or at the very least, we tend to be influenced in our personal preferences from an early age. Like you said, it's a universal phenomenon, and I don't really see a solution on the horizon. I think the best we can do is to actually realize what prejudices we hold and try to keep the next generation from thinking the same.

I still can't believe the whole lighter=better, seriously those black woman are dead sexy. I find white woman of the same proportions creepy. I think it's because of the dominate religions of Christianity in the U.S., in Canada this occurs as well but more or less the "redder" the skin the worse off you'll be

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I am generally not attracted to black women because many of them have donkey faces and are ugly as sin. It really has nothing to do with the skin, rather the face. I even give points for big booties/boobies, and still 75% of the black girls I know are ehhhhh. Racism? You decide!

I am not attracted to donkey face white girls either btw.

Hey let me just preface any post I make in this thread apologizing for being kind of racist in the past (brown people do smell though) because I am working hard not to judge people <3 .

Anyways you guys need to figure out if you don't like UGLY GIRLS or GIRLS WHO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY or whatever because I look at ugly black girls the same way I look at ugly white girls, but there are lots of good looking black girls! They are lots of different places black people come from and I am pretty sure there are a couple places that plop out only uggos (likewise for any race, thanks bulgaria) but lots of 'em don't come from those places. I find East Asians pretty unattractive as a whole, though. I do like Indian girls a lot! Plus the word "hindu" is really fun to say. Hinduuuuuuuuu! Also I like Korean girls.

I am not sure if this has been discussed because I stopped following it for like four pages, but I work in retail and when OBVIOUS minorities come in (like Sikhs with their wild beards) I go out of my way to be helpful and I am pretty sure that is racism. Although, the more I work the more I find myself having no reaction to anyone whatsoever except based on how they look completely independent of race (I have scraggly hair and a stupid dirty shirt please help me buy expensive clothes).

kaempfer are you sure you don't mean southeast asians, because korean grls look like most other east asian women for the most part, i would say!  china is a big place and has a lot of difference types of people, especially closer to the borders, so it can vary a lot, but japanese/korean/taiwanese women look fairly similar so unless you are just like EWW CHINESE WOMEN i don't really see how you can dislike east asians but like koreans!  southeast asians on the other hand i can completely understand, although there are some pretty hot ones too so even then it's probably not that bad

I am not attracted to some really really really black people like eithiopians because they are so foreign to me.



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i think number 200 isn't so hot, but the other ones i would say have something going for them!  the kenyan especially is kind of appealing, and the fact that she is GLISTENING helps, too.  i think foreign can be a good thing, sometimes; i don't understand why all of you talk about it like it is something automatically frightening and unappealing.  like i guess she would not be 100% A+++ FUCKABLE in the traditional sense but at the same time i think people like that are sort of beautiful in a more graceful and statuesque way.  like i would say when i look at her it is sort of like human art in motion like a CHEETAH RUNNING ACROSS THE SAVANNAH or some shit.

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stuff like this is sort of what i mean, too.  from a traditional perspective she may not be particularly hot but there is a great deal of BEAUTY there nonetheless, i would say, and actually probably more than in most women who would be considered hot.  like imo that bottom photo you posted is kind of just boring and wearing too much makeup and generally uninteresting since you see women like her constantly and it is all very plastic and contrived.