Topic: GTA DS: Chinatown Wars (Read 2017 times)

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Yeah apparently R* felt like making a GTA for the DS: Chinatown Wars. You may guess 3 times where it takes place. What Liberty City? HOW DID U KNO THAT?

Anyway, there's probably some talking goin' on in the E3 topic, but for the GTA fans I thought I'd make this topic to discuss their thoughts on the new GTA. Imo they should port GTAIV to PC first. And that name... Totally different style from what they've used so far. Tbh I don't really expect much from it. The DS has not much to offer in graphics, and boring LC again... Also GTA doesn't seem like the type of game to me that uses the stylus/touch screen.
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but for the GTA fans I thought I'd make this topic to discuss their thoughts on the new GTA.

the gba version sucked why should i care about another handheld version on a nintendo console?
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the gba version sucked why should i care about another handheld version on a nintendo console?

Well I thought that too about LCS, but turned out nicer then I thought. Maybe this DS game will prove to be worth buying.
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Yeah but you forget the PSP is capable of MUCH more then the Nintendo DS. This will most likely be a top down 2D game like the old ones.

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Yeah but you forget the PSP is capable of MUCH more then the Nintendo DS. This will most likely be a top down 2D game like the old ones.

Once, I thought that too. However a decent transformers DS game showed otherwise. Lots of pretty big 3D open worlds to explore, but the game had so many problems with it's missions. I thought to myself "If Transformers DS's did it, why not GTA?". I hope to GOD its 3D though...
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I just looked up that Transformers game you're talking about, and yeah it looks good for the DS, but I think GTA would look pretty bad if it came out looking like that.  The fact of the matter is that the PSP really is infinitely more capable of handling 3D shit, and while the GTAs for it look more or less like the ones for the PS2, a 3D GTA for the DS would just look silly and makeshift (like that transformers game), because the textures are terrible, the cars would be all aliased and lacking in detail, and the models would probably be awful at such a small size.  Not that I'll play it either way, but I'm actually hoping they'll release a 2D one.  That would be much more suited to the DS, and I don't think they've done one since the Playstation days.  I'm sure some people around want a new 2D GTA again.
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I just looked up that Transformers game you're talking about, and yeah it looks good for the DS, but I think GTA would look pretty bad if it came out looking like that.  The fact of the matter is that the PSP really is infinitely more capable of handling 3D shit, and while the GTAs for it look more or less like the ones for the PS2, a 3D GTA for the DS would just look silly and makeshift (like that transformers game), because the textures are terrible, the cars would be all aliased and lacking in detail, and the models would probably be awful at such a small size.  Not that I'll play it either way, but I'm actually hoping they'll release a 2D one.  That would be much more suited to the DS, and I don't think they've done one since the Playstation days.  I'm sure some people around want a new 2D GTA again.

You cannot expect as much from the DS. Textures and such were NEVER the DS's strong point in 3D games. If 3D though, I want the GTA4 style shooting/cover mechanic....
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Ok, but if we can't expect much from the DS than making a 3d GTA on the DS would be a stupid idea.
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if any company can make a decent looking 3-d game for DS, it's rockstar. they pushed the PS2 very far with san andreas and generally they know a lot when it comes to making games work with limited hardware. that said, the DS is just not powerful enough i am afraid. i honestly cannot see a 3-d GTA working at all. if this isn't a 2d game, odds are it's going to look badly and most likely play badly as a result.
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Yeah but you forget the PSP is capable of MUCH more then the Nintendo DS. This will most likely be a top down 2D game like the old ones.

Though not the best example (because it sucked overall) there was a Driver game for the GBA that was in full 3D... cheap 3D but it maintained the overworld/ sandbox aspect.  I haven't really played a game on the DS that does that (if the Transformers game does, then cool, I haven't tried that one myself) but I imagine a lot more could be done on hardware that actually has technology dedicated to rendering 3D worlds and objects.

Edit:  Found one, once again, not the best example, but it's something. :P

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3orHfFWQg&feature=related
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Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance on GBA is full 3d aswell.
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Though not the best example (because it sucked overall) there was a Driver game for the GBA that was in full 3D... cheap 3D but it maintained the overworld/ sandbox aspect.  I haven't really played a game on the DS that does that (if the Transformers game does, then cool, I haven't tried that one myself) but I imagine a lot more could be done on hardware that actually has technology dedicated to rendering 3D worlds and objects.

Edit:  Found one, once again, not the best example, but it's something. :P

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3orHfFWQg&feature=related

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that looks about on par with SUPERMAN 64 so i gotta give the gba developers some credit!  i'd never seen it before.
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Does anyone else think "Chinatown Wars" is a really stupid subtitle? Like, the writers decided it would be GREAT to have a game where different asian people can duke it out (this is what all asian people do - they hate each other and want the best access to drugges (they also meddle in illegal street racing)
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Well, they managed to make Mario 64 look better on DS, so I see no reason why they couldn't do this in 3D.
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Does anyone else think "Chinatown Wars" is a really stupid subtitle? Like, the writers decided it would be GREAT to have a game where different asian people can duke it out (this is what all asian people do - they hate each other and want the best access to drugges (they also meddle in illegal street racing)
kinda but i think within the context of the game it's not as stupid as it is out of it
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This sounds like some stupid multiplayer deathmatch game to me.

if it's a proper GTA, they can get away with making it top-down like GTA 1 and 2, as long as they fix the fucking controls! I remember you had to actually press accelerate to make your wee man walk! And you had to steer him like a car! What the FUCK was THAT all about!?

Aye, top-down, some nice touch screen controls and some improved GTA 1 style graphics. I'll buy it... well, I won't BUY it, I'll download it and slap it on my R4.



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if it's a proper GTA, they can get away with making it top-down like GTA 1 and 2, as long as they fix the fucking controls! I remember you had to actually press accelerate to make your wee man walk! And you had to steer him like a car! What the FUCK was THAT all about!?

Ah yes, the good ol' days of tank controls.  It still baffles me why developers think it's a viable way of controlling a real human being (I'm looking at you Capcom).
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I really hope this game doesn't try to be like the 3D GTAs or even the old top-down games either. Instead of trying to port the style of the other GTA games to the DS Rockstar should use a new style and system for this game that while still having that GTA feel works with the strengths of the DS.

if it's a proper GTA, they can get away with making it top-down like GTA 1 and 2, as long as they fix the fucking controls! I remember you had to actually press accelerate to make your wee man walk! And you had to steer him like a car! What the FUCK was THAT all about!?
lol technically they brought this back in GTA4 since if you're not holding the A/X button you're walking.

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I really hope this game doesn't try to be like the 3D GTAs or even the old top-down games either. Instead of trying to port the style of the other GTA games to the DS Rockstar should use a new style and system for this game that while still having that GTA feel works with the strengths of the DS.
lol technically they brought this back in GTA4 since if you're not holding the A/X button you're walking.

so it can't be a 3rd person action game or a top down action game... so maybe make it a platformer or an rpg???

i always had this idea in the back of my head to expand on drug wars by making it more "gta" like.  i can't really explain how it'll work but it'll basically be a "choose your own adventure" game with action segments (mini-games like driving segments to escape from the police and first person shootouts or something) but... i really can't imagine how GTA will play if it's not top down or 3rd person.  the whole point of the game revolves around jacking cars, driving really fast, and shooting people.