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Fire Mage

#41 July 25, 2008, 07:29:23 pm

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Quote from: im9today on July 25, 2008, 07:07:37 pm

sorry

you were defending me so don't say sorry...unless this is sarcastic too!!

but whatever this thread is dragged out a lot. argh.

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#42 July 25, 2008, 07:47:13 pm

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Quote from: im9today on July 25, 2008, 04:01:21 pm

how dare you listen to music that is popular with your age-group/location >:^( >:^( >:^(

if someone on the internet says you have to like the clash you better fucking listen

its okay to like some of the stuff on there but only ironically (like anime)

i guess gw has been spoiled by having most of its 17 year olds' taste in music not be as bad as wackfiend's. there are certain expectations now!

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idiot kid

#43 July 26, 2008, 02:37:32 am

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Quote from: Fire Mage on July 25, 2008, 04:03:22 am

he's mumbling/slurring and half the time fades out of the mic etc.

it's punk rock yo! like i guess i could understand a complaint about vocal acuity if it were consistent with the music you listen to, but there are enough poor/obnoxious vocalists in the bands you listed that i don't think your problem with the clash's vocals makes much sense! also honestly strummer has a great fucking voice and i would not consider it MUMBLING so much as YELLING and/or the product of a fairly strong accent. the dirtiness/sloppiness is very much a part of the punk rock attitude and sound (although the clash was an insanely tight band) and this is something i appreciate quite a lot about strummer's vocals. i guess you are used to some POST GRUNGE shit that has watered down its punk rock influences to such an extreme degree that the clash sounds somehow outside your comfort zone, but honestly besides being composed entirely of EXTREMELY GOOD TRACKS London Calling in particular is an extremely accessible album. i always kind of thought it was one of the records basically anyone raised in a Western musical culture could listen to and immediately appreciate if only for its hooks/sound/performance but i guess not and i don't know what to tell you man!

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#44 July 26, 2008, 04:57:18 am

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Quote from: idiot kid on July 26, 2008, 02:37:32 am

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it's punk rock yo! like i guess i could understand a complaint about vocal acuity if it were consistent with the music you listen to, but there are enough poor/obnoxious vocalists in the bands you listed that i don't think your problem with the clash's vocals makes much sense! also honestly strummer has a great fucking voice and i would not consider it MUMBLING so much as YELLING and/or the product of a fairly strong accent. the dirtiness/sloppiness is very much a part of the punk rock attitude and sound (although the clash was an insanely tight band) and this is something i appreciate quite a lot about strummer's vocals. i guess you are used to some POST GRUNGE shit that has watered down its punk rock influences to such an extreme degree that the clash sounds somehow outside your comfort zone, but honestly besides being composed entirely of EXTREMELY GOOD TRACKS London Calling in particular is an extremely accessible album. i always kind of thought it was one of the records basically anyone raised in a Western musical culture could listen to and immediately appreciate if only for its hooks/sound/performance but i guess not and i don't know what to tell you man!

i mean i understand that the clash has influenced A LOT but idk what i've seen so far hasn't made me...get into them.

i'll check out London Calling eventually i guess. a question though, is there any big difference between the clash live and the actual albums? because idk some bands watching them live (over the internet) makes it...not good?

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#45 July 26, 2008, 05:12:57 am

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well it depends on the performance but yeah, there is a difference. it's just not nearly as big as it is for most bands, i would say. that whole diy mentality or w/e lent a lot of grittiness to their studio albums, so it doesn't sound OVERPRODUCED or whatever you would use to describe most of these bloated bands who sound nothing at all live like they do in the studio.

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#46 July 26, 2008, 12:30:21 pm

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fire mage you listen to weird al

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#47 July 26, 2008, 06:40:46 pm

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Quote from: headphonics on July 26, 2008, 05:12:57 am

well it depends on the performance but yeah, there is a difference. it's just not nearly as big as it is for most bands, i would say. that whole diy mentality or w/e lent a lot of grittiness to their studio albums, so it doesn't sound OVERPRODUCED or whatever you would use to describe most of these bloated bands who sound nothing at all live like they do in the studio.

well yeah that was i was talking about. i have quite a few bands like that but it's whatever! i mean there are a lotta band who are good both on album and live so yeah (i.e. modest mouse etc).

oh btw that's another question. in your opinion, do you classify modest mouse as good or "shit"? haha. they're my favorite band pretty much though i'm not saying they're the best band there is, it's just i like them a lot and can listen to pretty much everything by them without getting tired of it and they're pretty great!

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fire mage you listen to weird al

hahaha not all the time i only have like that newest album (that had the shit like TRAPPED IN THE DRIVE-THRU) because... it's stupid yet funny sometimes!

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#48 July 26, 2008, 06:57:25 pm

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modest mouse is good

it's also okay to not like the clash if everyone had the same taste that would be boring now wouldn't it.....

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#49 July 26, 2008, 07:20:19 pm

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Quote from: DragonSlayer on July 26, 2008, 06:57:25 pm

modest mouse is good

it's also okay to not like the clash if everyone had the same taste that would be boring now wouldn't it.....

well yeah!

i never said i'd listen to london calling and love it! i'll give it a try though.

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#50 July 26, 2008, 08:03:10 pm

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modest mouse is a really good band! the core band has consistently surrounded themselves with other really tight performers, they're inventive guitarists and clearly very good at playing alternative/indie rock, their melodies (or whatever you would call them?) are interesting and brock's a good vocalist and sometimes an extremely clever lyricist. they remain one of my favorite bands (and they do a very good live show). but that's kind of a strange question to pull out of the blue i think unless it was just that they were on your list and people were kind of saying EVERYTHING ON THAT IS SHIT.

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#51 July 26, 2008, 08:42:28 pm

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i sold cocaine to isaac brock's dad hth.

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#52 July 26, 2008, 09:09:49 pm

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The funny thing about this topic is that Fire mage isn't trying to discredit just any band, but THE CLASH and LONDON CALLING.
Good laughs.

Foo Fighters is empty of content, ESPECIALLY when comparing to a band so historic as The Clash, a band that initiated punk together with the Sex pistols and then with London Calling they became the pioneers of what we nowadays call punk (y'know, not just simple three chord processions and more eclectic and innovative songs).
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#53 July 26, 2008, 10:15:18 pm

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yeah modest mouse is one of my favorite bands; i think they have a pretty interesting sound and it's kind of rare for INDIE ROCK BAND to have something that separates itself from the pack in terms the actual type of music it plays, but they do. odd vocals/banjos/etc. anyway that's kind of irrelevant i think, because it's not like anyone said the entire list was bad. you listed like 100 bands, so that would be pretty difficult to do!

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#54 July 26, 2008, 10:24:22 pm

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Quote from: DJ Soup on July 26, 2008, 09:09:49 pm

The funny thing about this topic is that Fire mage isn't trying to discredit just any band, but THE CLASH and LONDON CALLING.
Good laughs.

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#55 July 26, 2008, 10:26:15 pm

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at least read the topic before asking that

edit well nvm since jojo edited his post

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#56 July 27, 2008, 12:25:56 am

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it's okay. i listened to worse music than you when i was 17.

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#57 July 27, 2008, 12:38:15 am

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*modest mouse dick stroke*

nothing against mm so much (I don't relaly like them much but the'yre just not my thing) but it seems kind of random how this topic turned into ALL ABOUT MODEST MOUSE

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Fire Mage

#58 July 27, 2008, 04:46:14 am

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Quote from: idiot kid on July 26, 2008, 08:03:10 pm

but that's kind of a strange question to pull out of the blue i think unless it was just that they were on your list and people were kind of saying EVERYTHING ON THAT IS SHIT.

well it's partly that. i think they're great and even though people were like "you have some good stuff it's still pretty" i was interested to hear what people thought of them!

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The funny thing about this topic is that Fire mage isn't trying to discredit just any band, but THE CLASH and LONDON CALLING.

i never discredited the album London Calling. i pretty much discredited the clash (or as far as what i've seen of them except for a select few songs so that point is valid!) but i definitely said i'll maybe check out London Calling.

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nothing against mm so much (I don't relaly like them much but the'yre just not my thing) but it seems kind of random how this topic turned into ALL ABOUT MODEST MOUSE

yeah idk i was just interested in what headphonics thought of them then the whole topic swarmed around it soooooo.

p.s. hey ds what did jojo ask?

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#59 July 27, 2008, 05:50:26 am

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Quote from: DragonSlayer on July 26, 2008, 06:57:25 pm

it's also okay to not like the clash if everyone had the same taste that would be boring now wouldn't it.....

You know people say that but idk if I agree. Like yeah I guess it would the interestingness of life on whether other people also like the same music or something?

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#60 July 27, 2008, 05:50:49 am

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Wait that doesn't make any sense.
STRIKE IT FROM THE RECORD[/b]

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