Brutal, unprovoked slaying on Greyhound bus (possibly not for the easily disturbed)

Brutal, unprovoked slaying on Greyhound bus (possibly not for the easily disturbed) (Read 6380 times)

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goldenratio

#21 August 01, 2008, 06:03:29 pm

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yeah but its one fucking guy i mean, 3 or 4 other dudes jump on him and he can't do much. It takes a split second for 2+ guys to incapacitate another, no matter how crazy or knife-wielding he might be. Maybe there weren't any dudes capable of stopping him, i mean who knows but I'm just saying it was never mentioned in the article and it just seems weird! I can't say that i would have done anything because I am not a dude in the physical shape to do that stuff, but if I was and there was at least one other dude I would have totally tried taking down the guy.

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#22 August 01, 2008, 06:06:17 pm

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I'm sorry maybe I'm a bad person but if I see some psycho decapitate a 19-year-old without provocation or hesitation I am GETTING THE FUCK OUT OF THERE.

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#23 August 01, 2008, 06:12:55 pm

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Yeah but chances are he would likely have fought back and stabbed at least one of them. I can't think of anyone that would attack a guy that is decapitating someone

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#24 August 01, 2008, 06:13:57 pm

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Quote from: goldenratio on August 01, 2008, 05:21:16 pm

this is pretty horrifying i mean could you imagine being there. also if this dude had a knife why didnt anyone try to stop him?? a bus full of people and a dude has ONE KNIFE and they just calmly walk off the bus? i mean the kid was probably a goner but how can you resist the opportunity for some vigilante justice?

I think you have to take into consideration that noone is paying any attention to him at the time this happened. I mean, who would? You're on a bus and you're doing your own kind of business to pass the time to get to the location. Next thing you know, the guy (and note: random guy) is brutally stabbing someone repeatedly. By the time you've noticed he's probably been stabbed 3/4/5 times.

I think everyone on the bus acted really well, noone else got hurt and the killer, who was clearly insane got detained. Heroics aint everything buster.

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#25 August 01, 2008, 06:16:24 pm

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This is horrible, it makes me sick to think there is people capable of doing this shit without even blinking, I can't help but to feel horribly sorry for the victim, he was just a 19 year old boy riding the bus, the worst part is that the murderer is clearly insane so he will never fully understand how bad was what he did.

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#26 August 01, 2008, 06:23:41 pm

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I just heard of this today, it's really, really gruesome. If I was on that bus, I would have nightmares for years to come. I mean, he DECAPITATED the guy for everyone to see? That's really terrible.

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#27 August 01, 2008, 06:31:16 pm

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Either way, how do you decapitate someone with just a knife quickly? I can only imagine him sitting there trying to saw off his head for a little while at which point anyone could've easily smacked him in the head with luggage or something and knocked him unconcious??

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kentona

#28 August 01, 2008, 06:33:59 pm

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OK, the psycho was stabbing the guy, and the guy in the seat in front of them saw it and yelled "Stop the bus! Everyone get the hell off!" and everyone did! That same guy lead a group of guys on to the bus to try to save the kid, but the psycho came at them with the knife in one hand and the severed head in the other. They booked it off the bus and locked the door.

A trucker stopped, handed our crowbars and wrenchs to some of the men, and they stood guard around the doors until the cops came. Meanwhile, the psycho tried stabbing through the doors, and severing limbs and showing the people outside what he was doing through the windows.

Yeah, I think the rest of the busload did all they could reasonably do.

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#29 August 01, 2008, 06:35:32 pm

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It does seem like it would take a while, but if the knife was just big enough, and just sharp enough, and if he was quick with his hands and knew what he was doing then I could see it happening.

EDIT: I see what Kentona typed, but I would think they would try to do something when he was stabbing the guy?

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Feldschlacht IV

#30 August 01, 2008, 06:39:40 pm

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Wow, this is absolutely horrible. I don't even know what to say. I can't help but be angry that nobody helped the guy, though. It was ONE GUY.

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kentona

#31 August 01, 2008, 06:40:54 pm

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Also, if I saw someone severing someone's head off, I'd take off the other way, too.

Apparently he was a big guy, too.

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#32 August 01, 2008, 06:43:04 pm

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I mean, strength in numbers, though! It was a bus full of people! Maybe it's just me being a moron, but I'd gladly take the risk of a knife injury, or even getting stabbed if it meant that a 19 YEAR OLD KID WOULDN'T GET BEHEADED.

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goldenratio

#33 August 01, 2008, 06:45:48 pm

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thats what im saying! even if the dude is big, 2 average-large build guys could easily take him down. Maybe they will get stabbed, and the kid was probably not able to be saved, and you wouldn't want to kill the guy because he needs to suffer (which he probably never will because he is insane) but i mean at least you could beat the shit out of him for 10 minutes.

yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?

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kentona

#34 August 01, 2008, 06:47:23 pm

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You have to remember it is a limited, cramped space, though. Strength in numbers becomes meaningless in a narrow bus aisle. It just becomes a one on one struggle, and I wouldn't tangle with a big guy carrying a butcher knife.

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#35 August 01, 2008, 06:48:54 pm

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Okay decaptating heads takes more then just a good blade, it also takes strength too. A strong enough guy with a big and sharp enough knife can "quickly" decapitate someone. Since this guy is apparently big I can see it happening. Then theres the whole kill on a whim without blinking thing, if you kill or exposed to such things long enough it just doesn't bother you anymore.

Do you think this stuff happens in minutes? Try seconds instead, in that short amount of time you can't exactly think straight. So the whole having a guy swinging a severed head and knife at you within that short amount of time what are you gonna do? I'd do exactly what they would do get out of there and bar his way from getting to me possibly trapping him in the process.

A tool is a tool regardless. I mean if you suck, you suck, and not even the most perfect tool could save you. And if your damn good then even with the worst tool ever conceived you could chug out some high quality shit.

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#36 August 01, 2008, 06:49:09 pm

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Seriously, this 'bystander syndrome' shit is ridiculous! It would be one thing if someone saw this in a dark alleyway on the way home at 1:00 AM, but this is a BUS. FULL. OF PEOPLE. How could everyone just look at that and say 'Oh my gosh, that's so horrible! We have to get out of here!' while a 19 year old goddamn kid is getting his head cut off. I'm more shocked at the fact that nobody helped than the actual event itself!

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Do you think this stuff happens in minutes? Try seconds instead, in that short amount of time you can't exactly think straight. So the whole having a guy swinging a severed head and knife at you within that short amount of time what are you gonna do? I'd do exactly what they would do get out of there and bar his way from getting to me possibly trapping him in the process.

That's not how it works and you don't know what you're talking about at all!

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#37 August 01, 2008, 06:53:02 pm

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Then count the seconds that pass by in one minute, you'll see that thats more then enough time to stab someone alot.

A tool is a tool regardless. I mean if you suck, you suck, and not even the most perfect tool could save you. And if your damn good then even with the worst tool ever conceived you could chug out some high quality shit.

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#38 August 01, 2008, 06:55:45 pm

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First of all, I don't care if you're Andre the Giant, no one alive can cut a human head off in seconds with a fucking knife. That's not how it works. Pick up an anatomy book. Second, I've been on Greyhound buses a LOT, and I know how big they are, it would be certainly possible to at least intervene before the guy died (or at least before his head was cut off) if the people to the sides, the back, and the front assaulted the guy, depending on where they were sitting on the bus. A minute is a very long time for someone, much less half the bus to intervene.

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#39 August 01, 2008, 06:57:25 pm

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Quote from: goldenratio on August 01, 2008, 06:45:48 pm

thats what im saying! even if the dude is big, 2 average-large build guys could easily take him down. Maybe they will get stabbed, and the kid was probably not able to be saved, and you wouldn't want to kill the guy because he needs to suffer (which he probably never will because he is insane) but i mean at least you could beat the shit out of him for 10 minutes.

I don't know about that. You don't know how dangerous a psychopath could be - and the article described him as pretty large. And he has a knife, and he's strong enough and the knife is large enough to DECAPITATE someone with it. Think about it this way, sometimes it took executioners (who are big guys themselves) several blows with big battleaxes to remove heads! This guy must have been pretty scary.

Besides if the other guys tried to stop him but he already had the head in one hand, man, he must have been able to get it off pretty quickly. I think you could decapitate someone in 10-15 seconds if you were a really scary guy.

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#40 August 01, 2008, 06:57:59 pm

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The circumstances must not have been described very well, because I cannot see how a bus full of 37 people couldn't atleast TRY to stop this guy from going any further. I'm not saying HURR BE A HERO, but I mean alot of people jump on a guy and beat the shit out of him, while someone called the ambulance and BAM this could have been avoided.
Instead these people saw an innocent guy being murdered and ran away?

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