I don't know about that. You don't know how dangerous a psychopath could be - and the article described him as pretty large. And he has a knife, and he's strong enough and the knife is large enough to DECAPITATE someone with it. Think about it this way, sometimes it took executioners (who are big guys themselves) several blows with big battleaxes to remove heads! This guy must have been pretty scary.

It doesn't matter how big the guy was! Psychopath or not, he's only human! Two or more people could have overtaken him, and at least gotten him away from the kid. Who gives a fuck if he's SCARY, he's cutting a kids head off on a bus full of people! What the fuck, man!

Oh the decapitating part, yeah I agree it takes longer then seconds, but I mean't when he spontaneously started stabbing the guy you've only got seconds to react and within that time everyone was panicing. Must've took em' enough time to come down for him to decapitate him fully.

He only decapitated the guy once everyone left the bus and were waiting for the police! It's not like he did it right then and there! 30+ people. A bus. One guy with a knife. A 19 kid dead and with his head cut off. Shit doesn't add up!

I think you could decapitate someone in 10-15 seconds if you were a really scary guy.

And this right here is the dumbest post of the entire year.

It doesn't matter how big the guy was! Psychopath or not, he's only human! Two or more people could have overtaken him, and at least gotten him away from the kid. Who gives a fuck if he's SCARY, he's cutting a kids head off on a bus full of people! What the fuck, man!

Every time that random violence happens some self-important douchebag always goes 'oh well they could have intervened, I know I would have' without knowing the specifics of the situation. If you were there I doubt you would have done anything either.

Big muscular guy now DRIPPING WITH BLOOD with a large knife slicing some guy to ribbons in a cramped space, and you're going to try to jump him? That's a good way to get sliced up too, not to mention the sight would be so HORRIFYINGLY SHOCKING you're probably not thinking anything but GET AWAY GET AWAY GET AWAY.

besides it's not like the bus was full of football players. the passengers were probably mostly overweight middle aged men who would have been no match for the type of guy who can decapitate someone in half a minute, especially if he has a deadly weapon.

I don't care what you say, a bus full of people watching a 19 year old kid getting stabbed to death and then beheaded is fucked up and inexcusable to me.

And this right here is the dumbest post of the entire year.

Feldschlacht IV do you have a family of hunters? Are you aware that hunters remove the heads of deer they kill? Do you know that a hunter can remove a deer's head in 30 seconds without being a psychopath?

besides what the fuck man, he already had the head in one hand when people tried to stop him.

regardless you're also implying that two bit heroics to save the guy whose head is already being removed is more important than trying to get everyone else off the bus and out of the way of this SHOCKING MUSCULAR PSYCHOPATH COVERED IN BLOOD WHO COULD START SLICING UP EVERYONE ELSE IN FRONT OF HIM.

Feldschlacht IV do you have a family of hunters? Are you aware that hunters remove the heads of deer they kill? Do you know that a hunter can remove a deer's head in 30 seconds without being a psychopath?

Not 30 seconds after repeatedly stabbing someone on a bus full of people, however. Keep in mind that this guy probably wasn't a hunter who has experience in cutting heads off in 30 seconds.

besides what the fuck man, he already had the head in one hand when people tried to stop him.

What? Did you even read the article?

regardless you're also implying that two bit heroics to save the guy whose head is already being removed is more important than trying to get everyone else off the bus and out of the way of this SHOCKING MUSCULAR PSYCHOPATH COVERED IN BLOOD WHO COULD START SLICING UP EVERYONE ELSE IN FRONT OF HIM.

You've been watching too much anime.

OK, the psycho was stabbing the guy, and the guy in the seat in front of them saw it and yelled "Stop the bus! Everyone get the hell off!" and everyone did!  That same guy lead a group of guys on to the bus to try to save the kid, but the psycho came at them with the knife in one hand and the severed head in the other.  They booked it off the bus and locked the door.

A trucker stopped, handed our crowbars and wrenchs to some of the men, and they stood guard around the doors until the cops came.  Meanwhile, the psycho tried stabbing through the doors, and severing limbs and showing the people outside what he was doing through the windows.

Yeah, I think the rest of the busload did all they could reasonably do.

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That isn't the article, that's a post. Read the article.

Feldspar IV, did you read more than just that one article?  Details aren't even clear now.

Several reports say that after the bus was cleared, a group of guys did got back onto the bus to try to save the kid.  The psycho came after them with a knife in one hand and the severed head in the other.

And, in a tight space with a knife, I think I could fend off 3 or 4 guys.  I could do some serious damage with the knife, at the very least (unless one of the guys happens to be a well-trained marine or ninja or something). A regular Joe Schmuck would be gutted, however.

This is horrible. Unbelievably fucked up and I hope that guy goes away for so long that he can't remember any sense of normality he once had.

I do agree that it'd be hard to do stuff about it though. As much as I'd like to think that I'd try to stop him, and as many fights as I've broken up in the past when someone has a knife and is carving some poor dead kid to ribbons I probably would just be thinking to escape. I know it's horrible but unless I also had a weapon of some sort I wouldn't attack him unless someone else took the first move - one on one against a guy with a knife just isn't a good move.

Several reports say that after the bus was cleared, a group of guys did got back onto the bus to try to save the kid.  The psycho came after them with a knife in one hand and the severed head in the other.

And, in a tight space with a knife, I think I could fend off 3 or 4 guys.  I could do some serious damage with the knife, at the very least (unless one of the guys happens to be a well-trained marine or ninja or something). A regular Joe Schmuck would be gutted, however.

See, that's the thing, though. I'm not mad that the kid was unable to be saved (well, I am extremely mad, but...), I'm more mad that the entire bus was cleared before anyone had the reaction "Hey this kid is being stabbed let's get this guy!". I commend the group of guys that got back on the bus, even if they were chased off!

Too little too late, but at least they tried. And in a tight space with as knife, I seriously doubt anyone could fend off a bus full of people. That sort of thing isn't an anime or a video game where you just press a button or something! If a bus full of people, or even 4 or 5 people were coming at you, you'd be too shocked or even just clumsy to even really react! I mean, if I end up hearing this guy was a Marine or something, that's one thing, but being a big guy alone doesn't mean shit! How many of you guys have ever actually been in a fight, or at least more than one or two fights?

And, in a tight space with a knife, I think I could fend off 3 or 4 guys.  I could do some serious damage with the knife, at the very least (unless one of the guys happens to be a well-trained marine or ninja or something). A regular Joe Schmuck would be gutted, however.

Yeah, this, especially when the guy with the knife is a large psychopath. we don't know whether the guys who were right next to him were young in shape guys or middle aged fatties or grandpas or what, either! I still think that GETTING EVERYONE OFF THE BUS is the best move instead of trying some two bit heroics against a big guy with a knife. I think that given the circumstances the guys did the only responsible thing which was evacuating the passengers and minimizing the amount of people who got hurt.

but heh...I would've done something...i'm no pussy...

"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other passengers had been taken to rest.

"There was no rage or anything. He was like a robot, stabbing the guy."

Caton said passengers raced from the bus but then he, the bus driver and a trucker at the scene re-boarded to see what was happening.

Caton said he saw the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off and pretty much gutting him."

He said the attacker calmly came to the front of the bus to show off the head.

"He dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up," said Cody Olmstead, a passenger from Kentville, Nova Scotia.

http://wjz.com/national/greyhound.bus.murder.2.784761.html
Here, this is one article mentioning the return to the bus.

Holy fuck that is whack.

Yeah, this, especially when the guy with the knife is a large psychopath. we don't know whether the guys who were right next to him were young in shape guys or middle aged fatties or grandpas or what, either! I still think that GETTING EVERYONE OFF THE BUS is the best move instead of trying some two bit heroics against a big guy with a knife. I think that given the circumstances the guys did the only responsible thing which was evacuating the passengers and minimizing the amount of people who got hurt.

I'm not saying everyone shouldn't have been evacuated. That's common sense, there were most probably women and children, or old people, or whatever on the bus. I'm just saying that it's fucked up that nobody jumped the guy. I'm not saying that an evacuation was a bad move.

This does not sound like a man who's going to freak out if 4 or 5 other passengers come after him.

(It actually sounds like a man that would calmly slice and stab those passengers as they came at him.  If I were to try to tackle the man, stabbing me in the stomach would be a good way of disabling me.)

Those people were all such cowards. You are right. Every last one of 'em. I'm a badass psycho too. Why didn't people learn from those folks in United 93..

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you guys shouldn't be angry at Feldschalcht, I think he's just really upset about this, it upsets me too, and sometimes, I think I would try to save a victim like that. It's not trying to be a hero or anything, but really someone getting killed for no reason makes me sick to my core, and I don't think I could live with a calm conscience knowing that maybe, just maybe I could have done something to help him. I probably would get chopped too tough, but sometimes it's what I believe.

This does not sound like a man who's going to freak out if 4 or 5 other passengers come after him.

(It actually sounds like a man that would calmly slice and stab those passengers as they came at him.  If I were to try to tackle the man, stabbing me in the stomach would be a good way of disabling me.)

Yeah this.

How could they get people off the bus while protecting them from the guy as well as attempting to take him on without getting seriously injured yourself at the same time? They didn't have time to COORDINATE this and the more people that come into close contact with the guy there is just going to increase the body count.

I want you to explain to me why trying to jump a large psychopath with a knife who's already killed the guy is a good move in any way but TRYING TO BE THE HERO. you would be more likely to become another victim than immobilize him, and it's pointless because he's already had a good time to mutilate the other passenger by the time you can even react.